Saturday, June 11, 2005

Three Bolivias

The Internet, newspapers, and radio airwaves are full of analyses about what the last three weeks of events have meant here in Bolivia. Some of these are more astute than others. Taking both a breath and a step back from the turmoil of the past week I have been trying to sort out myself what all this means. Here’s a reflection on the tense dance between three Bolivias.

The Powerful

Bolivia is a nation run by a tiny elite that doesn’t look, think or share many of the interests of the nation’s poor and Indian majority. What it takes for them to become economic winners is not the same as what it takes for the rest of Bolivia to move ahead economically.

When you spot economic growth indicators for Bolivia the first thing you should ask is who is benefiting. Assuming that the poor move up when growth hits 4% is like saying that if Bill Gates goes to a Thanksgiving dinner in a homeless shelter, on average, everyone eating is a millionaire.

When a small elite holds on to privilege amidst a sea of people who have none, a psychology develops. They assume that their privilege is wholly earned, and all that inheritance, corruption, foreign aid, and an economic system rigged to their advantage have nothing to do with it. People who ask questions are labeled as radicals and conspirators. I have lived here eight years now and have seen this mentality of the powerful in operation in everything from the running of an orphanage and an international school to battles over privatization.

The Poor

I have always found that Bolivia’s poor have a very sophisticated analysis of their country’s economic problems. Sometimes there almost seems to be an inverse relationship between how much formal education people have and how clear their vision is. I have written before about Victor the plumber, who, while simultaneously fixing our broken water pump, explained eloquently the problem of Bolivia always selling off its natural resources in raw form at bargain prices instead of reaping the real benefits that come from industrializing and selling it as, for example, plastic and electricity.

All that and he can fix a pump.

It is the poor than are demanding now, both the return of oil and gas to public control and a rewriting of the national Constitution. As the past few weeks have reminded us, these groups – the indigenous of El Alto and the altiplano, minders, laborers and others – do not lightly take NO for an answer

The “I Just Want to Work”


Stuck in the middle between the two is a large portion of the population, probably a majority who, as I have written, generally support the demands of the social movements but live on the margin themselves and are tired and angrily of weeks of national disruption. They are the taxi driver who says to me, “I just want to work.” As much as they blame the protesters for the disruption they also blame the country’s political leaders for failing to solve the nation’s problems.

How the Powers Clashed This Week

This week in particular showed all those groups in action. Carlos Mesa, who is certainly of the elite, strove mightily in his 19 months in office, to build a bridge to the poor and social movements. I will not forget the cajones he demonstrated two days after he took over from Goni, when Mesa crashed Felipe Quispe’s indigenous victory rally in La Paz and asked to speak directly to the crowd. But in the end he had his hands tied by the IMF, the oil companies and others (including, perhaps his own point of view) and the country fell back into conflict.

Hormando Vaca Diez represented the old elite in pure form, a gruff, wealthy Santa Cruz businessman who thought that the way you deal with protests is to send out the army – the way he might fire on the spot a maid who scrambled his eggs not to his liking. I have no doubt that the US was bought as well into a Vaca Diez strategy and it sure looked until late Thursday that the elite was about to rise back into power.

The best way to interpret things here this past week, I believe, is less by the policy outcomes (nationalization is still on the table, etc.) but as a measure of respective power. In fact, that is what has been going on here for five years. The stability that ruled the country for a decade was based on an adherence to IMF/World Bank doctrine, following US orders in the war on drugs, and a set of social movements still too weak to make a challenge.

The Cochabamba water revolt exploded that stability with Bechtel’s ouster in April 2000 and for five year’s since the bases of power, elite and movement-based, have been circling each other like two cats poised for fur-ripping battle. When the Aymara of El Alto chase the Congress out of the capital and then miners from Potosi cut off their air escape from Sucre, to the point where the elite’s Vaca Diez strategy goes belly-up, I think you have to say that the exercise of power is titling in the direction of the movements. Quarrel if you like about the validity of their demands, but as a simple measurement of power, the Bolivia elite just got its butt kicked for the fifth time in five years over an issue directly related to economic globalization.

And on the merits – do not dismiss the call for nationalization as either a radical dream of a nostalgic trip back to Latin America in the 1960s. To be sure, some of the slogans in the streets might lend themselves to believing that. When I was a student in the 1970s in Berkeley some of my classmates used to paint a misspelled “Devest” on a banner and walk down to the Bank of America and break windows. However, the fact that their spelling was bad and their tactics dubious didn’t mean that they were wrong that South African apartheid had to go.

The case for Bolivia taking back control of its oil and gas is stronger and stronger the more you analyze the bad deal under which it privatized those resources a decade ago. And, even if you look at the case and still think it is a big mistake, it is one that Bolivians have every right to make.

What happens after a few days or a few weeks of talking? I tell you, I don’t see the social movements backing down on this one, not in the face of requests, or international pressure, or arrests, or tear gas and guns. The movements have picked their battle and have decided, as John Kennedy once said of the US’s commitment to fight communism, to “pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe.” That doesn’t mean the full forces of the Bolivian political elite and the US government won’t try to stop them, as Malcolm X said, “by any means necessary.”

But having watched this country closely as a resident for eight years now, I don’t think the people in the streets have any intention whatsoever to back down. The last person I would ever want to pick a fight with is a Bolivian miner with a stick of dynamite in his hand.

74 Comments:

Anonymous etiol said...

Just a quick note to say that on Thursday in Sucre, The Poor and The “I Just Want to Work” were out on the streets together.

Yes, there were plenty of campesinos [the miners didn´t arrive until the evening], but they were easily outnumbered by the ordinary people of Sucre who were outraged at Vaca Díez´attempt to seize power in their town.

Similarly, during the victory parade round the Plaza 25 de Mayo yesterday, the applause [and the free ice lollies for the miners] were being given by people of all classes and backgrounds. I didn´t see a single person in the square who wasn´t grinning.

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Paul said...

"Bolivia is a nation run by a tiny elite that doesn’t look, think or share many of the interests of the nation’s poor and Indian majority."

How is this so? Doesn't the power of democratically-elected politicians come from the people? Did George W. Bush get elected because of his oil wealth or because the American people are only too happy to bomb the living hell out of the rest of the world? Bush would be nothing if half the people that vote in this country would simply not vote for him.


"I have written before about Victor the plumber, who, while simultaneously fixing our broken water pump, explained eloquently the problem of Bolivia always selling off its natural resources in raw form at bargain prices instead of reaping the real benefits that come from industrializing and selling it as, for example, plastic and electricity."

I am not aware that BP and Petrobras are in the plastics and electricity businesses. My understanding is that Tranredes, a 50% owned Bolivian company, separates its natural gas before selling it downstream. Maybe they exist, but I have never heard of a natural gas refinery. If Bolivia does not refine the minerals or agricultural products it sells, I don't have an explanation, other than that property rights in Bolivia apparently are very weak. Even if Bolivia had strong property rights, what's to stop disenfranshised from completely shutting down your operations? Refining oil is a commodity business. There is not much money to be made unless there is a shortage of refineries. However, as it turns out, we have such a shortage here in the U.S. So Bolivia may actually do well to build refineries and ship gasoline to the U.S. That is, if it wanted to. Regardless, if Bolivia could extract and sell its raw natural resources while using fewer natural resources than the rest of the world can, it could benefit greatly.

I would agree that it would make sense for Bolivia to use its natural gas domestically in Bolivia--it takes a significant amount of capital and energy to transport it long distances. However, transporting electricity is probably even more expensive. Mining is energy intensive, perhaps the natural gas should be used in part for this purpose. Then the lowlands could benefit the highlands! Agriculture uses energy as well. Is Bolivian natural gas used in the local agricultural industry?

If there are reasons why Bolivia is "always selling off its natural resources in raw form at bargain prices" then these reasons should certainly be addressed. There should be no law against Bolivia refining its own resources. But first tell me why Bolivia is a nation that is "run by a tiny elite that doesn’t look, think or share many of the interests of the nation’s poor and Indian majority." I just don't see how this can be so unless Bolivia isn't really a democracy.

Unfortunately, with the recent ousting of Lozada and Mesa and Vaca Diez, it no longer is.

3:36 PM  
Blogger Darrell said...

What Etiol said is hopeful, and to Paul.

Yes guy, get it Bolivia and maybe all countries of the world are run by tiny elites that have little in common with most of the people they rule. And the trappings of democracy they use to justify their rule are just that, trappings.

Now, on to Jim's bolg. It is stupendous. Read what he says and absorb it because it is great commentary. His view is that of a realist. His writing really cuts to the heart of the subject.

In this case he is exactly right. A power struggle is going on in Bolivia between that tiny ruling elite and the masses of the people. I think, as in any power struggle like this, the most important factor is what the military does. That they haven't intervened yet makes me think the power elite doesn't have them under their thumb as much as they'd like. If the military sides with the movements or just stays neutral a beautiful revolution could be starting in Bolivia right now.

Or is that too Pollyannish.

4:33 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

You fail to mention the most important issue is that the indigenous people are being manipulated by Morales who wants unlimited coca farming. It is obvious that Morales is backed by cocaine drug cartels.
If I were negotiating the new constitution, I would give the campesinos anything they want: nationalization, socialism, communism; give it all away. In exchange, I want just one thing: give the military control of cocaine eradication (to cooperate with US) with no civilian government interference. Morales would never agree, because he promised drug cartels that he will cooperate with them.

5:08 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

darrell,

The Bolivian military is pretty independent of the civilian government. In general, they are conservative, right wing, and close to US. They generally do not like socialism and communism. But they are not a monolith. They are factional. There is a history of individual commanders taking the government without the support of other commanders. Some may even be leftwing. Some have been in drug business too. I doubt they will embrace a socialist government. They consider themselves standing ready to intervene, if in their opinion, things go too far. They respond slower than they used to, because they got a lot of criticism for their previous intervention. I do not think they will intervene again without a signal that the US will not object to their intervention. When Gen. Garcia Mesa took charge by coup in 1980, he claimed it was to stop a Silas Suazo leftist government from taking power. In reality, it was because Garcia Mesa was in the drug business himself. They maintained an 8 pm curfew every night, so they could move drug product openly on Bolivia's highways. Bolivia was isolated internationally during this period for having a "cocaine government."

5:45 PM  
Anonymous Ben said...

Jim,

Do you not forget that coca is a huge part of Bolivian indigenous culture? I would be very surprised if Morales had contact with drug caretls...coca farming is a huge industry in Bolivia, and from what I understand not because of the drug trade, necesarily, but because of the huge part coca (and not cocaine) plays in the lives of ordinary Boliviains. Due to the 'War on Drugs' coca farming has plummeted at the expense of many farmers whos lives previously depended on that plant. I don't think it's a drug thing, it's a culture thing.

8:08 PM  
Blogger Rodrigo C. Baspineiro said...

Jim, first of all let me correct an spanisism (that in fact comes from cuba as far as I know) that you mispelled "cojones" is de proper term, meaning something similar to have the guts.

Paul, I think Jim when he refers to "tiny elite" is not talking about those characters that are elected through a democratic process, he is talking about the power behind them, the black hand (if you allow my the foreign expresion) that is really ruling the actions from the political class, and I think he is right.

And Jim, I also think that you missed an important point, if the Poor has that inverse relationship between their education level and the capability to properly understand the real problem with our country, why isn't he aware that the whole country is so poor that is not able to industralize the gas for its own benefit. As was condemned, the natural gas reserves were discovered a long time ago, before the foreign enterprises came to Bolivia, so... why YPFB didn´t extract it and sent it to their most needed consumers: all the bolivians, from the cities and farms, from the industries and hospitals??? Because up to now there is no money even for the implementation of the so called "last mile" of the pipes to take gas to every house and hospital.
So...what are we really going to gain if the gas is nationalized?? Let's audit the contracts, let's hire international advisors to help in the process of capitalization, but please God let's not go back to the unefficent, corrupt and mediocre govermental companies before Sanchez de Lozada.

8:35 PM  
Anonymous S.L. Karbarski said...

Rodrigo wrote "...what are we really going to gain if the gas is nationalized?? Let's audit the contracts, let's hire international advisors to help in the process of capitalization, but please God let's not go back to the unefficent, corrupt and mediocre govermental companies before Sanchez de Lozada."

Indeed, "nationalization" of any particular natural resource is not the fundamental issue-- as
MOISES GUTIERREZ ROJAS explained:

" There are very much important issues that have to do with the hydrocarbons, the petrocarbon issue at this moment. But the fundamental critical issue in Bolivia has to do with the exclusion of the indigenous peoples that has happened for over 500 years. The hydrocarbons, the water resources have, in fact, been nationalized in two different occasions: in the 1940s with Standard Oil and newly nationalized also in the 1960s. So for the indigenous peoples, whether the natural resources are in the hands of the government or in the hands of the corporation, it doesn't matter.

And so for us, what is most important is to NATIONALIZE THE STATE AND GOVERNMENT ITSELF."

10:00 PM  
Anonymous eduardo said...

I am glad you pointed out that the "I Want to Work" group is in fact the majority of Bolivians. For the second time in three years, a minority group of Bolivians pushed out a democratically elected President through direct action mobilizations.

It is an unfair advantage that they have over the working and middle classes who want to see change, but without tactics that negatively affect their way of life.

The working class and middle classes that do not belong to a union or campesino group cannot afford to take time off of work or are compensated for marches.

I really believe that Carlos Mesa was sincere in his attempts to reform the system through the Constituent Assembly. He did not hold loyalty to a particular political party, as he was a disinterested party who wanted to see change. The social movements had a real ally in the Palacio Quemado.

The elections will not guarantee any President that was as sympathetic than Mesa.

1:23 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

How is this so? Doesn't the power of democratically-elected politicians come from the people? Did George W. Bush get elected because of his oil wealth or because the American people are only too happy to bomb the living hell out of the rest of the world? Bush would be nothing if half the people that vote in this country would simply not vote for him.

Actually, about half of this country DIDN'T vote for Bush. The turnout was what, 60% of those who could possibly vote? And that was one of the highest turn outs in recent elections. Such is the case in many, many elections in America which face little turnout but yet occupy important positions (look at the participation rates in non Presidential federal elections...its pretty low).

But first tell me why Bolivia is a nation that is "run by a tiny elite that doesn’t look, think or share many of the interests of the nation’s poor and Indian majority." I just don't see how this can be so unless Bolivia isn't really a democracy.

Actually, that is the case. Having a choice between globalizing elite dolt on the one hand, and the other globalizing elite dolt on the other, is not much of a choice.

I am not aware that BP and Petrobras are in the plastics and electricity businesses.

Actually they are, like most integrated gas companies, involved with chemical production, most often based off their petroleum and other assets. BP IS in the electricity business, in so much as it renewables division focuses on grid sized wind/solar projects.

I would agree that it would make sense for Bolivia to use its natural gas domestically in Bolivia--it takes a significant amount of capital and energy to transport it long distances. However, transporting electricity is probably even more expensive.

I'm not sure about that. Natural gas takes a rather large pipe system to transport over many, many miles. Electricity on the other hand requires wires and occasional transformers along the way. I woulda ctually like to see if there is a substantial difference in costs.

Mining is energy intensive, perhaps the natural gas should be used in part for this purpose. Then the lowlands could benefit the highlands! Agriculture uses energy as well. Is Bolivian natural gas used in the local agricultural industry?

Agriculture relies mostly off oil to fuel tractors and the like. I'm sure some sort of CNG type situation could be set up, but I don't see how it would penetrate or make sense to the average farmer. Mining on the other hand is mostly labor intensive, not so much a heavy use of energy (unless of the strip mining or mountain top removal type).

3:03 AM  
Anonymous S.L. Kabarski said...

Eduardo wrote: "...Bolivians pushed out a democratically elected President through direct action mobilizations..."

Of course, we must never make the mistake of confusing "elections" and "democracy". An "elected" government is by no means necessarily a democratic one.

3:22 AM  
Anonymous S.L. Kabarski said...

Paul wrote: "Doesn't the power of democratically-elected politicians come from the people?"

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Oftentimes POWER creates election results, rather than the reverse.
Oftentimes, elections are merely a way to legitimize power that derives from other sources (economic, military, etc.)

As far as the "American people are only too happy to bomb the living hell out of the rest of the world" --Americans' support US military action, putting aside your hyperbole, largely because they are completely misinformed and manipulated by the media propaganda machine and the two-party/single ideology system that creates the illusion of fundamental choice.

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Paul said...

Darrell said: Yes guy, get it Bolivia and maybe all countries of the world are run by tiny elites that have little in common with most of the people they rule. And the trappings of democracy they use to justify their rule are just that, trappings.

Then apparently there is no place in the world for democracies.


Darrell said: A power struggle is going on in Bolivia between that tiny ruling elite and the masses of the people.

Rodrigo C. Baspineiro said: Paul, I think Jim when he refers to "tiny elite" is not talking about those characters that are elected through a democratic process, he is talking about the power behind them, the black hand that is really ruling the actions from the political class, and I think he is right.

If Evo Morales were to win the next election with 51% of the vote, would he be a member of the"tiny ruling elite"? Would he benefit from the same "black hand" that other Bolivian politicians benefit from? If the "tiny elite" is benefittting from all these "black hands", perhaps the "tiny elite" is not so tiny.


MOISES GUTIERREZ ROJAS explained: And so for us, what is most important is to NATIONALIZE THE STATE AND GOVERNMENT ITSELF."

What does this mean? I assume it means the end of democracy. What else does it mean?


Sean said: But first tell me why Bolivia is a nation that is "run by a tiny elite"? Actually, that is the case. Having a choice between globalizing elite dolt on the one hand, and the other globalizing elite dolt on the other, is not much of a choice.

They had other choices in the last election... Morales, Quispe. They will have more choices in the next election. Perhaps the majority of the people in Bolivia actually want a "globalizing elite dolt". How did Clinton get elected? It was the economy, stupid.


Sean said: I am not aware that BP and Petrobras are in the plastics and electricity businesses.Actually they are, like most integrated gas companies, involved with chemical production, most often based off their petroleum and other assets. BP IS in the electricity business, in so much as it renewables division focuses on grid sized wind/solar projects.

And this is a significant portion of their business???


Sean said: I'm not sure about that. Natural gas takes a rather large pipe system to transport over many, many miles. Electricity on the other hand requires wires and occasional transformers along the way. I would actually like to see if there is a substantial difference in costs.

This would be a step in the right direction.


Sean said: Mining on the other hand is mostly labor intensive, not so much a heavy use of energy (unless of the strip mining or mountain top removal type).

The companies that make significant amounts of money use capital and energy intensive methods of mining.


S.L. Kabarski said:
An "elected" government is by no means necessarily a democratic one.


I won't disagree with you on this point. On a democracy scale of 1 to 10, where would you put Bolivian elections, and why?

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Logan Foster said...

I have a question for everone. Do you think the military will accept Evo being president?
Also, in my opinion the stage is being set for a possible civil war. Santa Cruz, etc. are moving forward with their autonomy referendums. I do not believe Evo will let them have it. Santa Cruz, etc. seem to be willing to defend themselves, it remains to be seen if they will fight for autonomy.

3:54 PM  
Anonymous Alberto said...

Jim, eight years as a resident and I believe you have an adequate point of view of how the situation is, I consider myself as part of the "I just want to work" majority and I believe that this group is responsible for Bolivia's problems.

We did not know what was going to happen with the "capitalización" experiment, but when the first signs showing that it was not working, we just didn't care about it. Now that even the "poor" Bolivia realized that oil and gas deals are not a benefit for us, we still act like we don't care.

For them, the reasoning is basic, we are not getting paid what we should for our natural resources, we know that you need more than just the will to do it but we have to realize that the deals we have are not the best we could get right now. The economics in the world have changed a lot since 1993 and if we can get some better deals why don't we got for them, oops am I forgetting that the IMF/World Bank make the calls here?

I am not a supporter of Evo - I think he was not the leader of last week's social movement but that is another topic - but if I had to work with him to try to help Bolivia I will - is it really me who is writing this? - We need to work together and stop looking at the "other" guy's mistakes. If we don't we know our future, just look at a Bolivian miner and his "nothing-to-lose" attitude.

1:07 AM  
Anonymous Alvaro RN said...

First of all, contrary to what one might believe, the "I want to work" people includes most of the middle and upper classes of Bolivia. The "Powerful", in my opinion, is the political class that has failed to address the fundamental issues regarding Bolivia's situation -poverty, unemployment, drug trafficking, etc- and secure property rights and private investment.

Also, most countries are run by elites, that is true. But the nice thing is that people in more advanced democracies realise that a guy who graduated from an Ivy league university may be better prepared to run a country than high school dropout. And, actually, these elites answer to this by addressing -legally and democratically- their constituents' concern. The fact that they do this to consolidate their power is irrelevant, as they address effectively and legally the issues their people would like to see solved.

Now, to Ben, who said that coca is a cultural thing in Bolivia and that he would be surprised if Evo had any contacts with drug barons at all...

In Bolivia, coca farming has always been legal in the Yungas region of La Paz. It is legal today as it was yesterday and has never suffered from the eradication program. The coca from this region is more than enough to supply for the culturla use of coca. Evo Morales has nothing to do with this region.

On the other hand, you have the Chapare region, where coca is grown almost exclusively for cocaine. In fact, this coca is not even suitable for traditional use (chewing/brewing). The Chapare region was the region where all unemployed miners, who were laid off after Bolivia adopted a market economy and state mines were closed, went to seek for a better life. The way they found a better life was to grow coca for drug traffickers, who paid handsomely for hectare of coca. The pay was even better in comparison to any other product that could have been grown there. I think that up to 40 or 50 times more, but I am not sure of the exact figures.

So, the peasants in the Chapare region grew coca (for cocaine) happily for some time, until it became too much and the US conditioned its aid to coca in this region being eradicated. As the gvts started doing this, Coca farmers saw their profits plummet with any other "alternative development" options and decided to form a union to defend their right to grow coca, although, once again, it was widely known it was not for traditional use but for cocaine. And that is where Evo Morales steps in. He is just a former leader of the coca union that wants to grow coca for cocaine.

As you can see, the surprising thing would be, in any case, if Evo Morales did not have any contacts with drug barons.

Finally, to Alberto: Yes you are forgetting that the IMF/WB are making the calls here. Those imperialist pigs, who just don't care about the little guy...Wait! Are we talking about the same 2 institutions that just wiped off $2000 millions of debt so that Bolivia could focus on health and education? It makes me sick!
I really would like to know why everybody is so quick to blame these institutions all the time, even when they have little or nothing to do with a problem. The problem here is not the IMF/WB but Bolivia's anachronistic political system.

So, once and for all: A debt, external or internal, is not necessarily a bad thing. The thing is, what do you do with the money. In Bolivia, the Powerful (the politicians, in my understanding of things) just used the debt as a get-rich-quick scheme. Were these resources used to build public goods as to enhance productivity or enforce property rights, and external debt would not be a problem. Man, it would be even useful.

Finally, to Jim, nice blog. Thanks for keeping us updated with the Bolivian shenanigans.

3:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Are we talking about the same 2 institutions that just wiped off $2000 millions of debt so that Bolivia could focus on health and education?"

Yes, you can wipe out 2Bln dollars of debt, but if you still owe 10Bln, what is the difference? Also, how much of Bolivia's income is spent on debt/interest payments? How much will be spent after the writeoff?

Also, in reading the IMF article, they state that debt forgiveness is only available to countries that implement the designated IMF policies? Exactly what are those policies? If they are anything like what they told Iraq, Bolivia will be firing thousands of gov't/civil service workers (great idea, make the country more unstable), so that they can continue to pay interest on the debt they still owe?

If the IMF truly cared about these countries, then these countries should be allowed to file some sort of bankruptcy, where they would not have to pay back any of the debt and they get to start over, there would also be no conditions attached (basically, if your liabilities are greater than your assets, your eligible for bankruptcy). That's it, simple, it's what corporations are allowed to do (pension defaults), why not governments?

PS I don't think it takes an Ivy league diploma to run a company/government, especially if that degree gives you an elitist/entitled attitude. I think experience and character matter more than which school you went to.

9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

US and IMF/World Bank - how they cheat countries

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251

http://www.democracynow.org/
article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251

Of course, part of the requirement for this scheme is crooked local politicians, but that is the easy part, most people are willing to sell out. If you do not sell out, then they put someone in power who will.

10:02 AM  
Blogger Andrew T. said...

Come on Jim. You've just got to open your mind a little bit.

I really think that too many people here continue to view Bolivia through the prism of their own politics.

You keep breaking down Bolivia into the "elite" vs. "the movement".

What is the movement? You continue to romanticize this one group of workers and the poor as "the movement" and hold them up as sort of the most legitimate and representative of Bolivians.

You continue to take all the events in Bolivia and understand them through that lens.

Are a large number of Bolivians systematically marginalized from voting?

When Bolivians have voted for "alternative candidates" have they been excluded from occupying their roles or kept from power?

Democracy is not always effective, but usually this occurs when the majority impose on the minority. If the "movement" represents the majority in Bolivia, why don't "movement" candidates poll better?

If Bolivians are not marginalized from the polls and the voting process, to what extent does gaining power through "whatever means necessary" devalue and delegitimize democrcy?

Given that Bolivians have been living in a democracy for a couple of decades now, why haven't "movement" candidates ever done well?

If the majority of Bolivians vote for to what extent does "the movement" undermine the rights of other Bolivians who have voted for a specific candidate or political leaning?

If the “Movement” represents certain ethnic and regional groups, to what extent can they rightfully be portrayed as “the people” of Bolivia?

Is it constructive to talk as if wealth or whiteness are necessarily indicators of corruption and abusiveness?

When I talk to Bolivians who are "upper class" or "white" I tend to harp ceaslessly about the existence of racism in Bolivia, about their responsibility to create a fairer system.

But just as it is important for the "elites" in Bolivia to open their mind and see the world as it is, and not as they wish it where, it is our responsibility here to question whether or not our understanding of the process in Bolivia is really correct or just a convenient way of supporting the politics and worldview that is most exciting and wonderful to us.

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bolivia is “a creditor not a debtor of G 8”

Bolivia’s main opposition leader Evo Morales described the G 8 rich countries decision to condone the entire debts of 18 poor countries, including Bolivia, as a “small step forward”, although he argued that his country is not a debtor but rather a creditor of the rich world.

http://www.falkland-malvinas.com/Detalle.asp?NUM=5821

10:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.falkland-malvinas.com/
Detalle.asp?NUM=5821

10:54 AM  
Blogger Andrew T. said...

Thank god for etiol, eduardo, paul, alvaro and the similarly cogent posters.

3:01 PM  
Blogger Andrew T. said...

Thank god for etiol, eduardo, paul, alvaro and the similarly cogent posters.

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The history of any country, presented as the history of a family, conceals fierce conflicts of interest (sometimes exploding, most often repressed) between conquerors and conquered, masters and slaves, capitalists and workers, dominators and dominated in race and sex. And in such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, as Albert Camus suggested, not to be on the side of the executioners."

"The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you don't listed to it, you will never know what justice is."

Howard Zin - A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present

4:29 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

"Bolivia is a nation run by a tiny elite that doesn’t look, think or share many of the interests of the nation’s poor and Indian majority.",

OMG!!!

What a generalization. Typical propaganda, its all too easy to fit in a neat little category.


What elite???

Bolivia is not El Salvador with its dozen or so families that ran the place for centuries.

In Bolivia governments fell with such regularity, and there was no rule of law, that there was no time for a moneyed 'elite' to develop. You got into the government, stole what little was there, and bailed out at coup time.

Big landowners? The provinces?? Nothing grows in the high country, and 'landowners' there made Southern Plantation owners look industrious. Santa Cruz, Beni, Cochabamba? The country could barely feed itself for nearly two centuries, and never developed succesfull food exports.

Bottom Line: No big landowner class like Central American and Colombian Coffee Barons or Argentinian ranchers.


The only real exception were the tin barons, who made their money, moved it the hell out of the country and bailed.

What you have out in the provinces and in La Paz are lots of small and medium sized business owners who mainly fly by the seats of their pants.
There are exceptions: some guy who owns a bottling plant, or a succesfull rancher here or there.

In Santa Cruz you have some folks who made money from oil, and others who provide services. That is as close to an 'moneyed elite' as you can get.

There is a political elite, but that encompasses just about anyone middle class in La Paz, a place where politics is the local pastime.

4:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What elite???

Bolivia is not El Salvador with its dozen or so families that ran the place for centuries."

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=509430

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/hdr04_complete.pdf -pg 198

Inequality in income or consumption, Bolivia Ranks #114 out of 177 (Number #1 Norway, #177 Sierra Leone)

#103 is El Salvador - #114 Bolivia ranks lower in Inequality in Income or Consuption than does El Salvador (This is from the UN)

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/hdr04_HDI.pdf

Lotsa good information.
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5:00 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Jim can speak for himself, but I inerpret his descriptions as A) conceptual tools for getting a grasp on the situation, rather than all-encompassing descriptions -- they are generalizations, but helpful ones, and B) descriptive, not judgemental, analysis.

It seems clear from his description that the just-want-to-work crowd -- not the "movements" -- are the most statistically significant of the three groups he has created for purposes of his analysis:
"Stuck in the middle between the two is a large portion of the population, probably a majority who, as I have written..."

His analysis of the issues on the agenda of the movements is one of the merits of various positions, not whether they are representative of the opinions of Bolivians. This seems an important distinction when questioning his analytical "lens" and whether or not he is perceived as taking a particular side or supporting a particular party.

I think it is important to recognize what exists and what is significant in a conflict apart from evaluating what is "legitimate." Agree or disagree with protesters, call them democratic or anti-democratic - the fact is that they have proven themselves a significant presence in Bolivian politics. Understanding them and evaluating the merits of their demands seems worthwhile. Discussions of what is most democratic, or most advisable, can go along with that, but the two should not be conflated,and we must recognize that our opinions about what "ought" to take place will likely prove irrelevant to actual events.

5:12 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

B/T/W Nationalization is stupid, period end.



---But maybe 'this time', this really will work, because its the people running it, you know??


YEAH RIGHT, GET A CLUE!

Put the government in charge of 'strategic' resources, create a whole new bureaucracy to run it, and have it all overseen by a government led by unreconstructed Marxists - some who are barely literate???

That is reality people!!! While 'people power' sounds cool in Berkeley, it doesn't make the trains run on time.

This would be akin to what went on in certain parts of post-colonial Africa, or Southeast Asia, when political hacks took over top industries and ran them into the ground.

5:26 PM  
Blogger Andrew T. said...

Dan, your comments are good, but I think you are changing what Jim is saying.

First of all, it is clear that he is at the very least pretty sympathetic to the protesters (the movement). That's his right, of course, but when he does that, it certainly is reasonable for some of us to dispute what he says.

After all, many people will only know this conflict through his eyes.

You also said, "His analysis of the issues on the agenda of the movements is one of the merits of various positions, not whether they are representative of the opinions of Bolivians. ... it is important to recognize what exists and what is significant in a conflict apart from evaluating what is "legitimate.""

But I think he is evaluating the legitimacy of the movement and the merits of the positions by the very catagories he uses and terminology he employs.

He presents protestors as "the movement", compares them anti-aparthied protestors, and juxtaposes them against "the elite".

He's choosing an analyitical framework that I think is VERY debatable, and by choosing it he's staking a claim about what he believes this is all about.

Again - his right. I just think his analysis and framework is fairly scewed and thus leads to misunderstanding what is really happening, especially for those without enough experience in Bolivia to really know the various actors and movements involved.

In other words, your assertion that he's just describing the facts to help us understand the situation is just not true. His description of the situation is, in itself, a powerful declaration of his views about the issues.

It reminds me of the coca debate - if you talk about coca growers and the indigenous use of coca leaf then contrast that with US erradication efforts then the whole thing looks completely ridiculous. However, if you add in the fact that virtually all Chapare coca is for cocaine and that only Chapare coca is really under erradication pressure, and that there are provisions for coca use for indigenous purposes with no problem - then (however misguided in implementation) the erradication effort looks a little different.

A lot people who visit here do not have the background understanding of Bolivia to draw those types of distinctions (hell, I lived there 10 years and I don't on a lot of issues), so they draw their conclusions on the structures and visions that Jim - and we commmenters - provide.

6:16 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

To Alvaro RN:

Yours was an interesting, informative post.

If Evo Morales is elected, do you think that will be another government in the control of the drug barons?

Do you think Hugo Chavez wants to get a piece of the drug business by possibly providing a safe transit route for cocaine through Venezuela to the Gulf?

7:45 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

I think it is important to recognize what exists and what is significant in a conflict apart from evaluating what is "legitimate." Agree or disagree with protesters, call them democratic or anti-democratic - the fact is that they have proven themselves a significant presence in Bolivian politics. Understanding them and evaluating the merits of their demands seems worthwhile.

My problem with the blog is with the way the information is skewed, and the lack of objectivity in presenting both sides of the issue.

We can see this in the way he posits the fundamental conflict as one between the elites and the poor masses of the highlands. By taking that position, the author completely deligitimizes the autonomy movement in Santa Cruz, and stigmatizes it. That movement also has roots in Bolivian history, and represents half a century of frustrations. Like the current Aymara nationalism, it will not go away easily.

This is well-written propaganda, but at its core it is propaganda.

12:57 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Maybe I just agree with Jim on most things, so the distortions don't jump out at me!

Actually, I guess I just don't have a lot of problems with what some would call "skewed" reporting, if it is reported as such. In fact, I question how possible it is to give un-skewed reports of this kind of thing.

I believe Jim's reports - and all reports - come from a particular perspective. But I also believe the reports I find at Democracyctr.org are honest. If that is different from "objectively true," it may also be more desirable.

I think it is impossible to tell the whole, objective truth about most things. It is more important that we express our opinions as such, and acknowledge the position from which we are viewing things.

Take the old elephant-and-the-blind-men story: Three blind men are asked to describe an elephant. One feels a leg, reports a tree; one feels the side of the body, reports a wall; one grabs the trunk, reports a firehose (or was it a giant snake?). If that is the extent of their reporting, it pretty well parallels much of what passes for "objective" news reporting.

A more honest report might be if the second guy says, "I came in the side door, put my arms straight out, and encountered what seems to be a wall. I didn't crouch or use a ladder, but I felt several feet to the right and left and it is rather expansive. Some are reporting a tree or a hose, but I'm leaning on the wall as I phone this in, and this is what I've found. I know it isn't all hose or tree. There is definitely a significant, sturdy, broad, flat surface."

Perhaps with regards to descriptions of the autonomy movement in Santa Cruz or the protesters in La Paz, it might be more like all three guys feeling the same side of the elephant, one guessing it's a wall, one guessing it's the side of a bus, and one guessing it's an elephant. If we're all blind, too, we'll just have to listen hard to all the details they each report, and try to discern which story sounds right.

Before I get banned from this sight for obscene overextension of metaphors, let me just say that there are myriad stories we can tell about any complex set of social dynamics. What's crucial is that we choose our starting points with due consideration, and that we tell the story honestly.

CNN, the AP, New York Times, Democracy Center, Democracy NOW - they are all storytellers. I am much more wary of those who begin with the assumption that there is one discernable and correct starting point, and then try to sell their story as having eminated from that point. Some may think Jim or Amy Goodman do just that. I would tend to disagree. Nobody's perfect, but I see this error consistently and much more insidiously in the reports of the mainstream media.

2:15 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

"...it doesn't make the trains run on time." Isn't that what Mussolini most famously accomplished? I hope that wasn't an intentional allusion.

A couple of comments on coca:
First, a question: A year ago when I was back in Bolivia, a number of people commented that Evo had largely alienated his cocalero followers, or at least let the coca issue fall by the wayside, as he pursued a broader agenda in hopes of winning the presidency. How tied to coca and cocaleros is he at this point?

Now comments: The history of coca production in Bolivia is pretty well described here, but again, it's one of many possible stories. Even if we start by asserting that cocaine is wrong and coca production was begun in the Chapare only when the cocaine market prompted it, there are many more factors that cannot be ignored when looking at how the issue is perceived, and how it must be addressed, in Bolivia today.

The part about the relocated miners is important. That was one of many stunts that disgusted people with the government and its schemes. The whole idea of relocalizing ought to be that you take people who lost work/income, and move them to a place where they'll have it. In the Chapare version, the miners were moved to a place where they did not have a sustainable way of making a living. They weren't even farmers, they weren't from the tropics - all they had was a wicked history of labor organizing.

Then comes coca: compare coffee (7 years until the first harvest, labor intensive, a couple harvests a year, market is flooded) to coca (6 months until first harvest, several harvests a year, minimal labor, pays well).

Then consider that the demand is not from Bolivian youngsters, but from North Americans and Europeans. They LOVE cocaine!

Then other North Americans, who seem completely uninterested in stemming the demand in their own country, bring in cops, soldiers, guns, and lawyers who write laws for Bolivia that would never be accepted in the U.S. They militarize the region, encarcerate thousands, create an atmosphere of fear, and empower corrupt and abusive Bolivian police (while, it should be noted, also professionalizing some Bolivian police, and working for needed judicial reforms - but that is not what the cocaleros are seeing). Human Rights are trampled.

And still, the cocaine money keeps on coming from the citizens of the U.S. Despite this blatant failure at home, the U.S. has the gaul to unilaterally certify whether they think Bolivia and its neighbors are adequately holding up their end in this "coalition of the willing," making non-drug-related economic aid contingent on this periodic evaluation.

So, the cocaleros organize, and they fight back. Makes sense.

But for a leader to emerge in this context, one would have to imagine that he'd have to work things out with the drug traffikers who have the real power - the money - in the region.

A DEA agent in La Paz once told me they had - and Evo knew they had - pictures of Evo with known drug lords. I wasn't surprised at all -- when I taught school in Washington, D.C., I made a point of getting to know the neighborhood gang leaders. I knew it was wise to develop some mutual understanding - I was not interested in joining their gang.

That said, I have to question whether Evo could have gotten as far as he has without making some unsavory deals.

And Evo has crossed the line. He and other defenders of the cocaleros have oversimplified the story of the coca. And they have just plain refused, at times, to recognized the unsustainable nature of a narco-economy. When Evo went beyond defending every hectare of coca in the Chapare, and called for the planting of coca in the Beni, I think he was dead wrong.

Meanwhile, a lot of people have worked in the gray area. Friends of mine have worked in defending the human rights of cocaleros, while working to educate them about the toll drugs take on people - the poor, in particular - back in the U.S. I myself did prison ministry in Bolivia precisely because I did not want to dive into the stickiness of the politics around coca, but it was clear to me that the people ending up in prison under Law 1008 - innocent and guilty alike - were in unacceptable conditions under a terrible law in a corrupt and dysfunctional judicial system. One guy, who has (or at least had in the late 1990s) the only DEA-issued license to legally export coca from Bolivia into the U.S. (flavor extract is used by Coca-Cola, the alkaloids are used in pharmaceutical cocaine), buys all his coca from the Chapare.

Drug abuse due to the coca trade has been increasing among poor Bolivians for a long time. Bolivian involvement in low-level trafficking has, too. Some of the kids who work in the maceration pits (horribly inhumane working conditions) are paid half in money and half in "pasta basica," which they either consume or sell. Base is rampant in prisons.

Many of the kingpins in Bolivia are Colombian, but the largest load of cocaine ever caught leaving the country was on a plane owned by a Bolivian (it was caught by Peru -- magically, the day it was to depart, the heads of the Bolivian police found reasons to call all agents from the Chapare away to other areas).

Alternative agriculture projects are myriad, and seem overwhelmingly to fail.

It's a mess. A multifaceted mess. I am wary of anyone who too smugly describes it as a pro-con issue with one right side.

3:17 AM  
Blogger Andrew T. said...

Again Dan, a great, nuanced look at a very complex issue. I'd be the first to agree with you about 95% of what you had to say.

Law 1008 is a total mess.

The eradication efforts are essentially misguided attempts to appease US domestic politics.

I've always felt that Bolivia should move to erradicate coca for much the same reason that you alude to - it's not a viable long-term economic strategy for the country and it's bad for the country as a nation. The land of the proud, indigenous heritage turned to selling drugs to addicts around the world.

I think there are many good arguments for Bolivian erradication (without the US involved) but the US's involvement has turned it into a US issue. Being pro-erradication necessarily means being pro-US-erradication. Bolivians essentially don't need to have (can't have) a Bolivian domestic debate about what to do about coca because they're having a policy forced on them.

And of course, erradication is pointless from the US domestic side too. Even if it's 100% successful in destroying the cocaine trade (a very dubious proposition) it will only move addicts towards a new drug - i.e. crystal meth.

Of course you all know this.

I have always felt, as you mention, that the 800 pound gorilla in all of the coca protests (both pro and con) is the narcos themselves who must sit back in Miami smoking cigars as all of the coca fighting plays out.

The biggest irony to me?

That Evo and MAS profess to have a strong populist, working class, socialist bent - yet I can't think of a more abusively capatilistic business than the drug trade. It has abusive and explotative working conditions for the end workers, an exploited natural resource that is taken out of the country and then developed into a value added product, completely market and profit driven, is marketed to people who shouldn't buy it and preys on their weakness, and all of the profits go to big shot who could care less about anyone but themeselves and their own profits. The losers in the coca trade are the workers and the buyers.

Saying that coca workers at least can survive on what they make is true - but the whole thing reminds me a lot of a bunch of low salary WalMart workers and cashiers taking to the streets to make sure no one closes the WalMart they work at while the Walton brothers float in a megapool.

Strange stuff...

9:37 AM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

Dan, that was an interesting comment. The narcos in Bolivia are keeping a fairly low profile. But, there was a flash item in the news yesterday about coke shipments increasing by about 25% over last year in Bolivia and Peru, due to 'instability'.

Needless to say, some (if not a good chunk)of the 'drug elite' are in Santa Cruz. A lot of people are in this 'industry' - if not directly then in 'materials' like acetone.
Lawlessness in El Alto and La Paz suits them just fine. Actually, a unified Bolivia, with an anti-gringo leftist government, run from La Paz would be even better for them. The worse the relations with the US, the less likely that the raw materials and any processing gets messed with, and no more extradition.
Under this scenario, Evo rules from La Paz, his buddies in Chapare grow all they want, and the other 'friends' in Santa Cruz, Beni, Pando et. al. can really start to 'industrialize production' again. Welcome Back Jungle Labs!!!
Instead of Brazilian and Spanish investors we get more Colombian investors.

2:36 PM  
Anonymous Mark Gilbert said...

Andrew: Quite right, it's a rich irony indeed, and that irony is the way the entire world works, not just Bolivia.
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Do note, all you radical free-marketers and radical socialists that relatively stable instances of both systems, successful and unsuccessful alike, evolved. As did liberal and marxist ways of seeing and supporting economic policy. I think that what's truly lacking in this dialogue is sufficient understanding of the fallacy of that there is an absolute right diametrically opposed to an absolute wrong, or that any country has one or the other, or that any country can achieve one or the other over night. You cannot try to map the economy of the U.S., or Switzerland, or the U.S.S.R., or Japan, or Nigeria onto Bolivia and expected Bolivia to become the U.S., or Switzerland, or ...
You cannot even try to map a condensed version of the historical evolution of these states' economies and succeed. The only way for Bolivia to develop (not grow, but develop) is for foreign and local 'fixers' that know the absolute right way to step back and away, and let things in Bolivia do just that, develop. The U.S. has had well more than 200 years to get where it is, and it started from a very different state than where Bolivia is now. Like every other country it's gone through freedom and repression, poverty and wealth, progressivism and conservativism...like every other country it has a history of evolution surrounded by variables of seemingly infinite complexity, like every other country. Anyone and everyone that isn't on the ground in Bolivia needs to step back and let Bolivia develop into the economic and humanist capital of the world that it has the potential to be. It may even get worse before it gets better, but all sort of growth is artificial if it stems not from the process of development.

Develop De*vel"op (d-e*ve^l"o^p), v. t. imp. & p. p. Developed; p. pr. & vb. n. Developing.
To unfold gradually, as a flower from a bud; hence, to bring through a succession of states or stages, each of which is (p)reparatory to the next; to form or expand by a process of growth; to cause to change gradually from an embryo, or a lower state, to a higher state or form of being; as, sunshine and rain develop the bud into a flower; to develop the mind.

Bolivia can be that flower, but not if foreign people and foreign states don't stop trying to superimpose their own political and economic ideologies as they would pertain to their own places of residence on a country that like every other is unique. It has to get their on its own. No foreign-state-imposed globalization (no WB/WTO/IMF intervention), no Bolivian-state-imposed isolation (no exclusively-socialized industry).

A progressive economy need not be a socialized one in the traditional sense of the term, a free economy need not be a foreign-owned economy. A conservative government need not be wholly unprogressive, and a progressive government need not be socialist. Government can regulate, without owning. Business can trade internationally, without being owned by a MNC.

In my opinion, foreign state actors should step out, and only locally-working NGOs should step in.
For example, it might make perfect sense in the theoretical absence of certain variables such as Bolivia's current technoeconomic situation for Bolivian farmers and miners to use mass-agrindustrial methods that utilize their energy resources, but a Bolivian farmer is a guy with some plants and some animals which he uses to produce food, who is not in the same shoes as an American farmer whose place of work is distinguishable from a semiconductor fabrication plant only by the presence of white-coated cows enmeshed in the machinery rather than white-coated quality assurance workers.
When it comes to economic and political development, Bolivia has to get there on her own, in her own good time, by her own beaten path.

Can foreign aid still be used? Sure. But it doesn't involve writing a billion dollar check to the president of Bolivia or his economic advisor, it involves NGOs charitably giving tens of thousands of individual families care packages of not more than the hundred-dollar scale in value on a case by case basis. Sounds kind of complicated and slow-going, doesn't it? That's how future is made, no, farmed, if you will.

3:39 PM  
Blogger Andrew T. said...

Great post, and sounds about right.

One thing you might want to think about though, is the way in which donor money itself, even if (maybe especially if) given to grass roots organizations, tends to cause all kinds of messy and destructive incentives.

I'm not sure what solution there is to that though, it's not like the best thing is to simply walk away.

Your main point is well taken - we all need to be very open to letting (helping?) Bolivia find its "Bolivian way" of getting ahead, regardless of what shape that might take.

4:29 PM  
Blogger Darrell said...

Yes you guys, that is the correct model of developement; a unique, slow, individualized path for an individual country. But there's no way the US, the IMF, the World Bank, and big foreign corporations are going to let that happen without a fight. Now your back to confrontation.

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Alvaro RN said...

Hi, sorry for the late answer.

Yes, I think drug barons would have a greater control of things if Evo was elected. Obvioulsy, not to the extent of Garcia Mesa's gvt, but yeah, they would be very confortable in the Morales regime.

As for Chavez, I think his main interest in controlling Bolivia lies in the fact that Bolivia has the second largest energetic resources in the Southern Hemisphere and has still a vast field for exploration. Which is not to say he wouldn't welcome and additional income, of course. But being the Venezuelan leader, I think you have more to gain if you could control the potential competition.

6:04 AM  
Anonymous A.H. van Ginkel Camacho said...

I've studied Evo Morales and his following for some time now. What he wants is the presidency. Beyond the uttering of the same populist demands, his MAS party has no real alternative to the ruling elite's economic plans to advance Bolivia. In fact, I suppose that as a true Marxist Leninist, Morales won't do much to improve the future outlook for the Andean Indians who constitute the bulk of his following. His power grows on the anger and frustation of the poor, so in true Leninist fashion he will continue with the proletarization of the Indians, blaming everything bad on the whites. In fact, this is what he has done all these years, and it should be clear to every independent observer that there is a chance that the rise of Morales will signify the switch in Bolivia from a white elite to an Indian elite. Other actors, same mess.

Furtherly, the connection with Venezolean president Chávez and perhaps even the Colombian FARC has been obvious to me from the start. Two things make Bolivia attractive to these potentially hostile powers: its coca and its natural gas. An anti-US power block of Chávez and Morales, holding the biggest oil and gas fields on the whole American continent - this outlook is not speculative, because I am convinced that that is the main reason Chávez supports his younger lieutenant Morales.

Anyone claiming to be on the side of the poor Indian farmers (there are also enough affluent Indians), should consider whether the advancement of their future is at stake, or whether they are being used as silly and expendable pawns in a big anti-US chess games, in which Bolivia would be one of the biggest losers. Whose side are we on?

5:00 AM  
Blogger lapazbob said...

soon the indigenous will see that evo is all talk and little action and they will exert their power and bring the country to a standstill until the next guy brings them what they want. and that will continue to happen.
when the govt. learns to profit from exports and eliminates corruption then they will start to help the country

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