Is Chavez Funding Evo? Si o No?
In the run up to the December elections the US State Department has made it a very clear policy to charge, over and over again, that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is providing secret funding to MAS and Evo Morales.
Here’s what the State Department has to say in a formal declaration posted August 5th on its Web site:
The U.S. State Department has expressed its concern that Venezuela is using its wealth gained from oil production to destabilize the country's democratic neighbors in the Americas by funding anti-democratic groups in Bolivia, Ecuador, and elsewhere.
Since the clear Bolivian reference is to MAS (see the additional statement below) it is now the official position of the US government that MAS is not a legitimate political party (the US regularly funds political parties in other countries through the NED) but an “anti-democratic” organization. It would be interesting to know what standard the US uses to establish an organization as “anti-democratic”.
A Pentagon official, deputy assistant secretary Roger Pardo-Maurer, went one big step farther, saying that MAS is actually being managed from abroad (money from Chavez, commands from Fidel). Here’s the quote from an article in the San Diego Union-Tribune:
"There is no question" that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is "providing money and moral support" for opposition forces in Bolivia, who are led by a populist congressman, Evo Morales. While Chavez provides the resources for the Bolivian opposition, Cuban President Fidel Castro provides the direction and organization, Pardo-Maurer said.
The “Fidel is calling all the shots” line is actually pretty funny to anyone who actually follows this stuff, the rough equivalent to “There are Commies under your bed.” How is he providing the “organization”? I have yet to find one Cuban going door to door here for Evo in Cochabamba, and believe me, you can tell a Cuban from a Bolivian by his or her accent. I am sure that Evo gets lots of advice from Fidel when they chat but mostly what MAS seems to be doing is operating without much strategy, reacting to events driven by others.
But is Chavez giving MAS moolah? Amidst all the declarations of such, the State Department has actually been hard pressed to offer up any hard evidence. Here’s an interesting dispatch about a news conference on the topic last week. According to this article:
US Department spokesman, Tom Casey had a rough time at the press conference in Washington attempting to brush off questions about concrete evidence of Venezuela's alleged destabilization campaign in South America. Casey refused to release damning details, claiming that they were based on intelligence secrets and unavailable for public distribution. Ducking an insistent call from reporters to provide evidence, an embarrassed Casey urged them to seek out public archives and read newspaper commentaries about the Venezuelan government's activities in Bolivia.
This is starting to sound a lot like the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
I am not saying here that Chavez hasn’t given support to MAS (it wouldn’t be a big surprise to me, frankly) but if anyone has actual evidence that he has, I’d sure like to see it. As the saying goes, “Show me the Money!”
All of this begs the question of course of how hypocritical it is for the US to charge any nation with seeking to influence the politics of another. Shall we recite the list...war in Vietnam, coup in Chile, backing the Shah, invading Iraq... The US has made invading and influencing other nation’s internal politics a national pastime. Saying that Chavez (rightly or wrongly) is giving cash to MAS is a little like Godzilla calling a lizard a reptile.
Have at it commentators.
Here’s what the State Department has to say in a formal declaration posted August 5th on its Web site:
The U.S. State Department has expressed its concern that Venezuela is using its wealth gained from oil production to destabilize the country's democratic neighbors in the Americas by funding anti-democratic groups in Bolivia, Ecuador, and elsewhere.
Since the clear Bolivian reference is to MAS (see the additional statement below) it is now the official position of the US government that MAS is not a legitimate political party (the US regularly funds political parties in other countries through the NED) but an “anti-democratic” organization. It would be interesting to know what standard the US uses to establish an organization as “anti-democratic”.
A Pentagon official, deputy assistant secretary Roger Pardo-Maurer, went one big step farther, saying that MAS is actually being managed from abroad (money from Chavez, commands from Fidel). Here’s the quote from an article in the San Diego Union-Tribune:
"There is no question" that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is "providing money and moral support" for opposition forces in Bolivia, who are led by a populist congressman, Evo Morales. While Chavez provides the resources for the Bolivian opposition, Cuban President Fidel Castro provides the direction and organization, Pardo-Maurer said.
The “Fidel is calling all the shots” line is actually pretty funny to anyone who actually follows this stuff, the rough equivalent to “There are Commies under your bed.” How is he providing the “organization”? I have yet to find one Cuban going door to door here for Evo in Cochabamba, and believe me, you can tell a Cuban from a Bolivian by his or her accent. I am sure that Evo gets lots of advice from Fidel when they chat but mostly what MAS seems to be doing is operating without much strategy, reacting to events driven by others.
But is Chavez giving MAS moolah? Amidst all the declarations of such, the State Department has actually been hard pressed to offer up any hard evidence. Here’s an interesting dispatch about a news conference on the topic last week. According to this article:
US Department spokesman, Tom Casey had a rough time at the press conference in Washington attempting to brush off questions about concrete evidence of Venezuela's alleged destabilization campaign in South America. Casey refused to release damning details, claiming that they were based on intelligence secrets and unavailable for public distribution. Ducking an insistent call from reporters to provide evidence, an embarrassed Casey urged them to seek out public archives and read newspaper commentaries about the Venezuelan government's activities in Bolivia.
This is starting to sound a lot like the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
I am not saying here that Chavez hasn’t given support to MAS (it wouldn’t be a big surprise to me, frankly) but if anyone has actual evidence that he has, I’d sure like to see it. As the saying goes, “Show me the Money!”
All of this begs the question of course of how hypocritical it is for the US to charge any nation with seeking to influence the politics of another. Shall we recite the list...war in Vietnam, coup in Chile, backing the Shah, invading Iraq... The US has made invading and influencing other nation’s internal politics a national pastime. Saying that Chavez (rightly or wrongly) is giving cash to MAS is a little like Godzilla calling a lizard a reptile.
Have at it commentators.

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Talk about double standards!
All of this begs the question of course of how hypocritical it is for the US to charge any nation with seeking to influence the politics of another. Shall we recite the list...war in Vietnam, coup in Chile, backing the Shah, invading Iraq...
Bogus comparison. That litany of historical facts is irrelevant to what is going on presently.
The reality on the ground in Bolivia and South America, is that Bush/State Department/CIA, are all over-committed in Iraq, and will not expend the serious resources needed to influence the electoral outcome of a country too poor, isolated and insignificant to US interests. Were this 10 or 15 years ago it would be a different deal. For now that leaves a power vacuum.
Chavez on the other hand, is flexing his muscles, and happily filling the void in South America. Chavez can start international incidents just by running his mouth, even with governments that otherwise would be friendly like Brazil's. And this loose cannon has vocally chosen sides in Bolivia, backing Evo publically, and meeting with him continually.
He would be your run-of-the-mill South American megalomaniac causing all sorts of problems at home like Fujmori, but the difference is he is loaded with petro-dollars, and has some vague "Boliviarian" ideas about "unifying" the continent. Most countries in South America humor him, if he is willing to pony up some of that money, as this Economist article says.
http://www.economist.com/world/la/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4232330
In a crisis situation like Bolivia's, if he can play a role he will. He does want to affect the outcome of the elections in Bolivia, and he has the money necessary to play a role there.
Is there definite 'proof' - nothing I have seen, but you can not deny that Chavez has played an active cheerleading role, as well as providing 'advice' of some sort of another.
But of course, that is ok for you Jim, but if you catch a whiff of U.S. Embassy involvement you raise all sorts of hell:
http://www.democracyctr.org/blog/2005/06/is-us-helping-light-fuse-of-bolivian.html
.And where is the US in all of this? A very reliable source told me this afternoon that the Embassy here is in talks with Vaca Diez, helping pave the way for his succession. This should not be a surprise. Never underestimate the ability of the US government in two respects:
Nothing Big Happens Politically In Bolivia Without The US All Over It
Who did Carlos Mesa meet with yesterday just before tendering his resignation? The US Ambassador. After the 2002 elections who called in the various candidates one at a time to pressure them to line up behind Sánchez de Lozada? The US Embassy. It would be utterly out of character for the US Embassy NOT to have its fingers all over the question of who succeeds Mesa and apparently it is acting in true form..
By promoting Vaca Diez behind the scenes the US is really shoving Bolivia off the cliff.
Lets take it even further, blame some deaths on the U.S. Embassy.
The US is playing with fire these days in Bolivia and it never plays with fire here well. In October 2003, when everyone including his own Vice President had broken with Sánchez de Lozada over his violent repression against protesters, the US propped him up for another week and another few dozen needless deaths.
Double Standards again:
I am not saying here that Chavez hasn’t given support to MAS (it wouldn’t be a big surprise to me, frankly) but if anyone has actual evidence that he has, I’d sure like to see it. As the saying goes, “Show me the Money!”
Here’s a suggestion to my friends covering Bolivia for the foreign press. Start calling the Embassy and ask what role they are playing behind the scenes in the question of Mesa’s successor. I am not saying you’ll get a straight answer out of them, but you’ll be onto an interesting and vitally important story.
So you will call for all sorts of inquiries into the U.S. role without any evidence, but then cast a blind eye to Chavez' meddling, and demand strict proof!!!
shorter boli-nica: gosh, jim, that is hypocritical of the U.S.
But the USA has consistently interfered in the domestic politics of countries all over the world, including Bolivia. You might be right that the CIA doesn't dedicate a significant amount of resources to Bolivia right now (and you might be wrong - do you know how big their budget is?). But we can be sure that they are dedicating some resources to candidates who will protect the empire.
As for Chavez, let's wait until we see some evidence of his meddling, beyond the cheerleading that most politicians do. He doesn't have a history of 60 years of meddling all over the planet.
For newbies to this blog, go here first:
http://www.publiushpundits.com/?p=1308
and/or here
http://bolicarreras.blogspot.com/2005/07/
ngos-shenanigans-what-is-behind-bolivia_06.html
Good post, Boli-Nica! Good work unmasking this Sandalista hypocrite!
The State Department letter is disturbing because it claims that Venezuela is "funding anti-democratic groups", although this is not a direct quote of a State Dept. official.
The claim that Venezuela and Cuba are "meddling in the internal affairs of regional democracies" is clearly hypocritical.
I don't follow Venezuela closely, but the Bush administration may have valid reasons to be "gravely concerned about increasing threats to democracy in Venezuela".
What is most troubling about George Gedda's AP article is the line "while Chavez provides the resources for the Bolivian opposition, Cuban President Fidel Castro provides the direction and organization, Pardo-Maurer said." Yet this is not a direct quote, either.
Pardo-Maurer also says "There are subversive projects going on everywhere else," and they seem to be primarily financed and organized by Venezuela, he said. Again, the "financed and organized" clause is not a direct quote. Since these are important statements, why aren't they quoted directly?
Are Eric Green and George Gedda bad writers, or were they prohibited from giving us the juiciest quotes, and only allowed to paraphrase them? Should we appreciate the fact that they are filling in the blanks for us, or be annoyed that they are writing more into the story than is actually there?
The evidence overall suggests that the U.S. has taken a fairly hands-off approach to Chavez. As part of this game it continues to buy oil and sell weapons to Chavez, who continues to send his officials to Miami and to do business in Houston. That is the basic hypocrisy of both sides. This CSM article is pretty informative:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0810/p01s04-woam.html
As applies to Bolivia, it is always some sub-secretary at State, who accuses Chavez of funding Evo, or the ambassador. That just makes headlines for a couple of weeks. But the amount of real heat brought on Chavez is nothing.
So Chavez essentially had an open door to do what he wants to do in Bolivian politics. And he has done that.
Are there facts suggesting that Chavez is financing Morales? How about some compelling circumstancial evidence?
The Venezuelan Military Attache, was kicked out of the country for allegedly giving $$$ to Evo.
A miner who was arrested for bashing in a window IIRC, had $5,000.00 dollars in U.S. cash on him, during the disturbances, obviously a paymaster.
This CSM
has an interesting view:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0329/p06s01-woam.html?s=wide
,
To date, no conclusive financial link has been established between Chávez and opposition groups in other countries. Yet he has provided considerable moral and rhetorical support to such people as Bolivia's Evo Morales, leader of the Movement Toward Socialism party and a leading candidate for president in 2007. Earlier this year, La Razón, a newspaper here, reported that Mr. Morales flew on a Venezuelan government plane, and the two have met publicly in several high-profile regional gatherings. Such behavior is unusual for a head of state, akin to having British Prime Minister Tony Blair provide transportation for a Democratic leader looking to unseat President Bush.
In retrospect, Who was Right? The crystal ball was there, but, no one wanted to look.
Now Daniel Ortega is about the make a comeback in Nicaragua and everyone are yawning about it and saying, "It cannot be." We better wake up and smell the coffee brewing.
June 2nd 2006
Bos'un
2007 .... Argentina...."Suitcase-gate" Chavez's subversive influence wil be uncovered.... and yes there are commies under the bed
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