Monday, October 17, 2005

The President Who Killed and the Country that Keeps Him Safe

The last time I saw Bolivia’s deposed President, Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, he was sitting quietly in the Miami airport waiting to board a flight to Washington DC (he flew first class, I flew coach). While “Goni”, as he is known, looked a little sad and alone, he did have some major advantages over a number of people whose lives he affected as President.

In contrast to Anna Colque, for example, Goni wasn’t dead. Colque was the 24-year-old student nurse assassinated on a rooftop in February 2003, as Goni sent out troops to put down protests against his proposed tax on the poor. Colque’s crime was coming to the aid of a handyman, killed by Goni’s troops on the same roof. Goni also has an advantage over Luis Colque, the dead nurse’s son. Goni was not left motherless at age two by government repression.

The US Harbors an Indicted Criminal

Today marks two years since Goni’s penchant for killing his own people led to his ouster, a move backed by a broad swath of Bolivian society. Today he, and a handful of his closest advisors, live happily in places like Washington and Miami.

Sanchez de Lozada has been formally charged by the Bolivian government with murder and the government has formally petitioned the US for his extradition. That would be the same US government that has demanded over the years that Bolivia extradite “drug criminals” to the US for trial, no murder required.

So far the US response to Bolivia’s political request has been pretty clear. First, the Bush administration has failed to even start the process by notifying Goni that he faces an extradition request. Perhaps the State Department is too busy hunting for Cuban sleeper cells in Bolivia. Second, when the families of the wounded and dead marched on the US Embassy earlier this month to back the extradition request, Bolivian police tear gassed them to their knees.

Message understood?

Can You Spell I-M-P-U-N-I-T-Y?

More than one hundred people were killed, and many, many more seriously injured, during Goni’s brief but bloody return tenure in the Bolivian Presidency (2002-2003). Here’s a link to a recent article about one of those killings.

To be clear, Mr. Sanchez de Lozada did not personally pull the trigger in those massacres. For that matter neither did Osama Bin Laden fly any jets on 9/11 or Saadam Hussein personally carry pout the massacres they he is rightly charged with. To be clear, the crimes that Goni is charged with are also of a far smaller scale. However, the precedent by the US is clear. You do not have to personally pull the trigger to be guilty. You can issue the orders.

Chileans had to wait thirty years and the brave actions of a Spanish judge in order to see even a glimmer of justice for the vast crimes of their dictator, Augusto Pinochet. Bolivians do not want to wait so long.

Sanchez de Lozada has a loyal following of FOGs (friends of Goni) in the US. Last year I publicly took the John Kerry campaign to task for saying that President Bush erred by not taking action to keep Goni in office in 2003 (with what action, US troops?). That eventually prompted a note from the Kerry campaign advisor who wrote the speech, revealing how it was that the Democratic nominee would take such a position. His advisor explained, “Gonzalo Sanchez de Losada is a personal friend of mine, and a person I greatly respect.” Some loyalties, it appears, run deeper than murder.

People from the US ought to care that our government is harboring an international criminal. The US ought to respect the legitimate demands of Bolivia’s government that Goni be sent home to stand trial. Here is a page where you can send a note to the US State Department suggesting that Sanchez de Lozada be sent home.

48 Comments:

Anonymous Japaza said...

For newbies to this blog, go here first.

and/or here

to see the hidden agenda of the author of this blog.

No wonder, then, that this blog accuses Goni (for what he did) and is silent in the face of what Castro and Chavez are currently doing adn what Evo Morales wants to do.

4:14 AM  
Blogger Xica said...

(sigh) I've been reading this blog for quite a while now. I'm not Bolivean, I'm from Ecuador, and most of what I read are well structured, well funded reports made by Mr. Shultz on Bolivean politics, and Latin American politics in general.

There's a saying in Spanish 'No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver' My God, when will the vast mayority of the people of the US recognize that you just not have the whole truth.

I once said that I consider the people from the US (I refuse to say 'Americans', as I, been born in Ecuador, am one too) must be the most uninformed people in the world. They don't get the whole story, just one side of it. And here's this guy, a gringo living in LA, who tells the other side, and well, he's labeled 'communist'.

ha ha typical.

1:40 PM  
Blogger Paisano de Elite said...

I believe that Xica from Ecuador should also use her saying to herself; you do not need to enter to Japaza’s links to figure out Jim’s intentions or “agenda”. His one side of the history articles and his organization’s web page gives you a clear idea, Jim is somebody that believes that all people should be economically equal, and he just doesn’t know how to do that since everybody knows that communism is a fantasy.
Never less, until he finds his horizon he uses typical communism techniques to misinform people through his blog; for example the current article. Jim deliberately failed to inform that among the more than a 100 people he says where killed during Goni’s second presidency are included some soldiers, captured, tortured and murdered by little angels like Ana Colque; I guess that to Jim, if you are in the wining side, that this time happened to favor his so called social movements, you can get away with murder. I challenge Jim to explain to us what happened to the Bolivian official, whom was not in duty and was gearing civilian clothes, and his wife in El Chapare; why where they kidnapped, tortured and murdered, army personnel and their relatives are not humans that deserve to be protected by the human rights activists?.
Ana Colque was a student that was helping people trying to topple a government by force, why Jim doesn’t tell us about the Bolivian army nurse/driver and the wounded soldier that where kidnapped from an ambulance, tortured and murdered by pigeons like Ana Colque.
Goni was not ousted because he killed his own people, he was ousted because he and his government where weak and did not have the guts to declare martial law in a country where a few aggressive radicals where able to drive people mad and force them to go to the streets in order to see if with Goni ousted peace will come. A big mistake since the same poison was giving to double faced Carlos de Mesa, a weaker president than Goni, which was also ousted because people got enough of him.
By the way, Jim is as much as a gringo as Japaza, and he also believes he is got the only true, I guess US citizens are the most uninformed people in the worlds, good thing I am a Bolivian.

7:18 PM  
Blogger The Democracy Center said...

Dear Readers,

As you know I generally don't respond to comments on the Blog (or that would be all that I have time for). However, the reader above raises some important points.

First, it is true that in Bolivian social conflicts there has often been violence in more than one direction, and we should be as saddened by the loss of young soldiers as we are civilians. The conflict in Plaza Murillo in February 2003 is a good case in point. If Goni had listened to the better advice given to him and not demanded his tax increase on the poor, none of those killings would have happened. Further, on the second day of that violence it was all government repression. It was all civilians who were killed. These are facts.

Finally, it seems pitiful to me that someone would lie about the dead to make a point, but some people care more about their ideologies than truth. So it goes.

The fact is that Ana Colque, the 24-year-old student nurse, was not part of any uprising. She went out that day, over her mother’s objections, at great personal risk, to bring aid to the wounded. She had seen people suffering without aid and decided she had to help. She was on that roof to help a handyman who had been killed by soldiers. She arrived by ambulance. The only arms that she carried were medicines. I interviewed her mother at length. I interviewed the woman at the building’s door who heard the smashing sound Anna’s body made as it hit the roof. No one but the commenter above has ever suggested otherwise about her.

How easy it is to throw one’s uninformed opinions at the dead. Actual investigations (reading piles of documents, interviewing actors in the events, etc.) actually take a bit more work. That is what we do at The Democracy Center.

It has been demonstrated time and time again that Bolivian privilege will go to great length to defend itself. Bullets are a part of that. So, as it would seem above, is a willingness to make things up.

Jim Shultz

9:09 PM  
Anonymous indio from bolivia said...

Is not just that Shultz is misinforming people in purpose to make sense of his broken ideology. He is also down in Bolivia just to make a name for himself as the gringo defender of the weak (poor inept little Bolivians who cannot defend themselves).

Why else do you think he keeps highlighting his minuscule exchange of emails with the head of the Bechtel corp. and his credentials? as a "harvard-trained analyst". He needs to establish credibility. I wish him good luck with that. He'll need it.

He is also afraid to engage into a conversation in an open forum like this blog. As he says it best, he makes a point not to respond to any comments. Why? No time? that's just an excuse!

Stop misinforming people about Bolivia mr Shultz! Start making acurate reporting about events in Bolivia. Don't bend the facts to fit your agenda. Ground your arguments in solid scholarship, be them economics, politics or social. That is how you going to gain credibility.

sincerely,
(real) indio from Bolivia

10:22 AM  
Anonymous culito blanco said...

I forget how the saying goes, "si los perros ladran el carro se esta moviendo"

(Culito blanco con los ojos abiertos)

11:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indio from Bolivia,

Let me get this straight. You don't challenge a single actual fact that The Democracy Center has published anywhere. You criticize Jim Shultz for not engaging in open conversation but you don't even reveal who you are.

Yeah, I think I am going to believe everything you say buddy. You are credibility incarnate.

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Paul V said...

Deadly Consequences, How the IMF Provoked Bolivia into Bloody Crisis, by Jim Shultz and Lily Whitesell

In La Paz, another crowd of protesters assembled outside the doors of a sixteenth century Catholic Church in Plaza San Francisco. Throughout the morning, military police sought to break up the gathering with tear gas and rubber bullets. Across the street from the church sits a three-story-high building covered in crumbling green stucco. Just after noon, a 25 year-old handyman, Ronald Collanqui, climbed to the roof to recover his tools. He was shot by army sharpshooters firing from a window across the street. As Collanqui lay dying on the roof, the building's doorman called for an ambulance.

Ana Colque was a 24-year-old student nurse. A single mother with a 22-month-old son named Luis, she lived with her mother and father. Ana had a batch of medical supplies on hand and had dispensed first aid to the wounded all day Wednesday. Her family asked her not to go out Thursday morning, but Colque left early, telling her mother to take good care of her baby son.

At 1:20 that Thursday afternoon, Colque arrived at the green stucco building in an ambulance marked with a red cross and wearing a white nurse's uniform. She climbed up the stairs to the roof.

As Colque approached the handyman's body, a military sharpshooter fired from a small window just a short distance away. The shot pierced her chest. Ten minutes later she left in the same ambulance in which she arrived and died shortly afterwards in the hospital.

The soldiers responsible for both deaths would later claim that they had mistaken both the repairman and the uniformed nurse as sharpshooters and had shot in self-defense, according to an investigation of the case by the Human Rights Permanent Assembly.


Perhaps the manner that Collanqui “climbed to the roof” was a bit suspicious, but how could (presumably) four different people, the soldiers, make such a gross errors in judgment? How old were the soldiers that were responsible for the deaths? Who shot doctor Karla Espinoza in the face? Did the shooters really think Collanqui, Colque, and Espinoza were snipers? Or rock throwers? You do not have to personally pull the trigger to be guilty. You can issue the orders. True, but I don’t see any evidence that Goni issued orders to shoot innocent bystanders, but what provoked these soldiers to fire is unclear. Tensions in the military must have certainly been high when they were spending their second day battling not only frustrated citizens but “the country's main national labor organization, labor and civic groups in Cochabamba, and a key unit of the national police force, Grupo Especial de Seguridad - GES. As soon as the president made his tax announcement, it became the main topic of discussion at police stations throughout the capital. The rank and file cops' reaction was reflective of Aymara culture, where community decision-making is deeply respected, closed to outsiders and given the final word. Emerging from their discussions, the GES police announced that they would oppose the government's tax proposal and demanded a meeting with the Minister of Government.

Obviously, this was one sad and crazy situation. Did Sanchez de Lozada really have that much control? Due to the deaths of 18 others, Sanchez de Lozada had already withdrawn his onerous $2/month tax proposal the day before Collanqui and Colque were killed. For this, Sanchez de Lozada should be brought to trial? As an aside, I have to wonder why “teachers, police and nurses have the lowest incomes in Bolivia. But is it really fair to say that Goni has a “penchant for killing his own people”? In “Deadly Consequences”, you conclude that the IMF is to be blamed for the events of February 2003. But you are you now saying Goni should be brought to trial. And why, exactly, is the IMF so terrible? Because they don’t want to hand the people of Bolivia more cash than 5.5% of their GDP every year?

Like you said, there is plenty of blame to go around for the death of Ana Colque. From the coca leaf growers who erected road blocks in January, to civilian demonstrators, to the police insurrection, to students from the Colegio Ayacucho who started throwing rocks, to the crossfire between the police and the military, to looters and arsonists taking advantage of the turmoil, to the four soldiers who fired onto the roof across from the World Bank office, to the military justice system which failed to even make an effort to judge the actions of its members or publicize its conclusions. Shouldn't all of these people share in the blame of the death of Ana Colque?

4:25 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Paul v is right in pointing out the complexities and shared blame in such a messy situation. But such an analysis should not be used to reinforce the use of hierarchical structures like a political-military chain of command as smokescreens at the service of impunity. While various individuals should be held accountable for their own actions, the buck still ought to stop with Goni. The fact that he is not alone in his guilt hardly makes him innocent.

The power wielded by the president in such a situation, while compromised to a degree by the diversity of actors involved, is still considerable, particularly with regard to the firepower at his disposal and the institutions in place to serve and protect him. I've not seen anything - from Goni's people, from Mesa's people, or from he powerful military leadership, to suggest that killings like Ana Colque's were the result of renegade officers or snipers, or were in any way out of line with the general approach to the protests sanctioned from the palace on down.

Part of the horror of those days and the anger in their wake stems from the fact that the situation dragged on, and Goni - along with the military under his authority - were apparently the last people in the country to see how untenable the government's response was. Even then, Goni's response was not to change course and call for an investigation - it was to flee and then continue to defend his actions from Miami.

I doubt that anyone is surprised by the U.S. response to the extradition request. Precedents suggest that charging heads of state with crimes like this is nearly impossible. But we cannot ignore the issues Jim and many Bolivians have raised regarding why the response is unjust, if predictable.

The mythology of state power and the correlative relationship between the security of the state (and political leaders) and the wellbeing of society is powerful. Bolivian authorities in recent years have been explicit about their role, which has been to protect the interest and ideologies of foreign economic actors against threats from their own citizens. Yet somehow it is in the name of democracy that the U.S. government, global financial institutions, and a saddening number of individual citizens defend such policies and the powerful (like Goni) who enforce them.

The comparison to US insistence on extradition of drug traffickers is important. The US thinks that allegations of drug trafficking against Bolivian citizens in Bolivia are enough to warrant their extradition to the US, because their alleged crime affected the US (as well as Bolivia). Yet now the US stands in the way of Bolivians trying their own citizen for alleged crimes against more of their own citizens on their own soil.

And it is only an alleged crime. Goni would still need to be tried. Shouldn't the Bolivian government/people have the opportunity to hold that trial? Opponents of extradition will likely point out that the Bolivian justice system is notoriously unjust, posing an unfair disadvantage for the defendant. Call it Karma, call it poetic justice, call it blowback on a personal scale, but Goni is one of the last people who should be appealing to such a plea. His chances of acquittal are still far greater than Ana Colque's.

- Dan Moriarty (I've noticed there is another "Dan" posting here lately - hola tocayo!)

6:22 PM  
Blogger Paisano de Elite said...

Jim,

It was really, really, really difficult to you; but you finally gave in at recognizing that in the Bolivian conflicts where you so proudly inform about the achievements of the people on your side of the history, murder happened in both sides, as you clearly stated “First, it is true that in Bolivian social conflicts there has often been violence in more than one direction, and we should be as saddened by the loss of young soldiers as we are civilians.”

To bad you couldn’t control your need to use de dead to make a point and followed by writing, “Further, on the second day of that violence it was all government repression. It was all civilians who were killed.”
Civilians Jim?, they where PEOPLE, the same kind that the soldiers and anybody else killed in that conflict.

You also wrote, “Finally, it seems pitiful to me that someone would lie about the dead to make a point, but some people care more about their ideologies than truth.” Where you talking about yourself?; read all your articles describing any conflict in Bolivia, you center them around killed people, of course, you only use the martyrs you chose at your convenience; not talking about the other killed people is not telling the whole true, which is the same as lying.

I read your links before I wrote and I was already very informed about Ana’s death, it took me a couple of hours to believe she really was somebody that wanted to help; For you it was a lot longer, as you stated, “Actual investigations (reading piles of documents, interviewing actors in the events, etc.) actually take a bit more work. That is what we do at The Democracy Center”. How much time we gave the people that shot at her, how much information, where they reading in the tranquility of their office sipping coffee?. None, they where deciding if whoever they where about to shot was a sniper. Bullets run across both sides in those days Jim, and soldiers where also dogging rocks thrown at them with slings with enough force to break theirs skulls or where looking out for people handling dynamite, that can kill you as easy as a hand grenade.

I wrote in a way that everybody could understand that Ana was not around people with the same attitude than hers at the moment of her death; you know it and understood it, that is why you got pissed off and that is why everybody that wrote after me challenged your point of view.

Who is now hiding the true, Jim?

7:15 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Paisano de elite now writes: "I wrote in a way that everybody could understand that Ana was not around people with the same attitude than hers at the moment of her death; you know it and understood it." I can't speak for Jim, but I "know and understand" that he had actually written the following: "why Jim doesn’t tell us about the Bolivian army nurse/driver and the wounded soldier that where kidnapped from an ambulance, tortured and murdered by pigeons like Ana Colque. " That he wrote it is a truth he's not hidden, but simply disregarded.

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim: Here is the problem: Goni is the best Presidente Bolivia has ever seen. He is a good man. I have talked to him and I have also seen the effort of the hard-left to put him down for trying to do the right thing, to right the wrongs of all the socialist regimes that came before him. He didn't raise taxes because he was a mean guy, but because the socialists who came before him ran the country into the ground with debt and all their millions of bureaucrats taht they hired. Someone had to clean up the mess. I suspect you like the Argy way, of either blaming the business class or just plain walking out on your tab, but neither of those are good ideas in the real world, nor do they lead to sustainable development, progress or anything else but a crash. You don't get rich this way. You get poor by doing that. You are totally failing to understand that Goni was a great president and tried to do the right things, and actually believe that a few ill-trained cops who couldn't shoot straight are a repudiation of all he stood for. Tell me, is it really the dead nurse that bothers you? Or is it Goni's vision of a free-market, wealthy, society where people have choices and do not have to depend on bureaucrats for everything? Which?? Because if you argue it is the dead nurse, we are going to have to expect from you a condemnation of all the far greater numbers of murders of nurses that have happened in all the communist regimes of the Americas and elsewhere - like Cuba. Somehow I don't expect that from you.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more thing: Regarding the argument about who the nurse really worked for. First, I do not know. But Jim, you are biased. We know you like the roadblockers, we know you don't like Goni, and we know you are leftwing. All those things we know. Now, with this nurse a good poster girl for your cause because her death could discredit Goni, you are saying she was NOT leftwing. If she WERE leftwing and in bed with Evo Morales, I suppose her death would not make Goni look so heartless. Coming from you and your known agenda, it's hard to believe you when you say she just floated on into this scene with no agenda and was just killed. I DON'T say it's true or not true, I repeat: I don't know. But you have an inherent conflict of interest when you say she was apolitical. If a rightwing or truly apolitical organization said she was only there on a humanitarian mission, I would find it easier to believe, because such a fact would not be used to advance a leftwing cause, but just find the truth. Jim, if your organization were completely neutral and could respect right as much as left, then it would be easy to accept as fact your claim that the nurse was not a political player. Get someone rightwing to say she was apolitical and I will believe it.

4:12 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

I think perhaps some of the attacks on Jim Schultz go a bit too far. Is he biased? Sure. But aren't we all? What should be at issue is whether the presentation of facts about the Colque case are -- in their totalit -- presented accurately. I'd suggest that some important contextual information is missing. At least in the post above. I provide a summary & analysis of the February 2003 events here:

http://www.centellas.org/miguel/archives/001483.html

But I would emphasize that there's no need to engage in namecalling or ideological accusations. From either side. While I often disagree w/ Schultz, I've come to respect him. I don't think he's a blind propagandist, though I think sometimes he's unaware of how his biases color his perceptions. But this is a human flaw: I'm sure MY biases color my perceptions of events.

It's imperative, I believe, for all sides in a debate to step back, avoid becoming emotionally charged, and look at the facts of the case. Certainly, facts are open to multiple interpretations. But our emotions about facts (and here I think Jim too often leads w/ his heart) can often cloud us to others' points of view.

2:02 PM  
Anonymous indio from bolivia said...

I cannot believe my eyes. I am being yelled at, of all the people with a name in this commentary, by the ANONYMOUS guy. For not providing my name. For cowardly hiding behind the anonymity screen.

How synical. To what is this world coming to? Incomprehensible!

Anonymous, get a life. And pls. we are not buddies. Buddy your mom. For you I am Mr Indio from Bolivia, please.

3:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Mr. Indio is really a gringo who works at the US Embassy. "Indio", dude, sounds like a cover to me.

Sincerely,

Joe Indiginous.

12:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is disgusting that someone like Mr. Schulz would make such inflammatory comments about the former president under the guise of representing the interests of the people of Bolivia.

Your speculation and accusations, posing as factual statements, are both misleading and offensive to those who are in a position to make the choices that will affect both the country and Goni permanently.

If you want Bolivia to take you seriously, get your facts straight before you accuse someone of genocide and compare them to murderous dictators.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the commenter above:

What precisely did Mr. Schultz say that was factually inaccurate? You didn´t cite anything specific.


I didn´t see him use the word genocide. Perhaps you are confused with some other Blog.

6:22 PM  
Anonymous indio from Bolivia said...

It's enough. This is the last comment, I promise. But, someone must address this preconceived, biggot, ignorant and very, very patronizing comment.

Do you think, Mr Joe Indiginus, that just because one can speak with you at the same level in YOUR own language, therefore it cannot be and indigenous from Bolivia? Of course, in the minds of gringos like you, poor ignorant, retrograde, savage, indios can never even dream mastering the English language this good, right?

A bit of news to you, wrong! In this "modern world", there are INDIGENOUS who speak better English than you (saddly enough).

Please, allow me, just for this time to be the better man and leave you with a suggestion. This should be your motto: A mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open. (not very original, but right to the point.)

5:03 AM  
Anonymous Otro indio said...

Oye, Indio!

If you are too scared to leave your real name and identity how the hell are we supposed to know who you are. You could be one of the magnificas for all we know. None of the other anon. bloggers claim some sort of ethnic right to the truth.

No es tu forma de escribir hermana que pone en duda tu identidad.

9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love blogs.

Never, EVER do I hear or read a challenge to the hard-left position on all matters Latin America.

Keep it up guys and gals. Not all of us gringos are indifferent to your situation or fixated on keeping you poor to massage our ideological leanings.

2:14 PM  
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8:37 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

Seems like Mr. Schultz has gone beyond his usual one-sided spin to outright distortions and lies.

Start with the facts:

The "impuestazo" was aimed mostly at the middle and upper classes of Bolivia. It was opposed not only by MAS but also by business groups. There is still debate whether it was actually "progressive" or whether it would impact the poor greater.

The revenue raised by this measure was aimed at ensuring international creditors were paid, BUT it also was aimed at keeping those with temporary public works jobs employed and paying for a much larger public works iniative that was to employ many poor Bolivians in infraestructure projects.

The riots that resulted from that measure, ended up in a large mob, led by the disafected policemen, trying to take over the Bolivian Presidential Palace, the center of Bolivian presidential power and authority.

When that has happened before, in Bolivian history, it has meant the lynching of whoever is in power.

The army fought off the invading forces in what was a pitched gunbattle between two armed sides with civilians rioting as well.

Goni and the VP fled the palace rather quickly, the palace ended up being defended by largely young relatively unexperienced recruits.

--Evo himself claimed that in those hours where no one was at the helm, he could have simply walked over to the National Palace and taken power---

The assault on the palace ended up being repulsed by the army, who did shoot at the mob, and in the process did wound and kill unarmed civilians - some who were undoubtedly there for fun, curiousity, or humanitarian reasons.

BUT -- at the core, there were two armed camps shooting at each other for control of the palace.

AND the mobs also trashed a bunch of government buildings around the palace. It was chaos.


That this lady got shot is sad. She was however, in the line of fire b/ween two armed camps.

It is stupid to say Goni is a criminal, for taking actions to prevent a literal palace coup. There was a mob, and armed elements shooting at the palace, there was anarchy in the streets, and no one was in control. Using force is an option, that any legitimate government has when confronted with the very survival of its institutions. No one bitches that Allende and his followers at La Moneda tried to defend themselves from the Chilean Army.

And while the army, arguably might have used excessive force, many Bolivians were more concerned with whether the military was going to launch a coup in those conditions, ending 20 yrs of civilian elected governments.


Schultz you have so showed your true colors. You are so outside of the mainstream its ridiculous.

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