Which Way Evo?
With the official results showing Morales with a clear majority win in the popular vote (53% according the current statistics out of the Corte Electoral), Bolivians, Bolivian social movements, the foreign press, foreign oil companies and many others are all asking the question: How will Evo govern?
First, I think the question; “Can Morales find competent people to run the government?” is getting a little silly. I get asked that by almost every foreign reporter who calls. How does one measure competence? Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada was certainly able at negotiating really bad deals, behind closed-doors, with foreign energy companies. Is that competence? Tuto Quiroga was part of the government that negotiated and signed the Cochabamba water contract with Bechtel, the contract that resulted in huge overnight water price hikes. Is that competence? Both those presidents managed to kill their own people by the dozens. Is that competence?
Morales has a huge pool of competent, progressive professionals to draw on, including many whom probably would never have been willing to enter government before. In one of my meetings with the Vice President to be, Alvaro Garcia Linera, as he was considering joining the MAS ticket, Alvaro specifically mentioned that finding good and talented people was a priority and he knows where to find them.
The more interesting question is: Will Morales moderate his positions, especially on gas and oil, after he actually has to govern? To be sure, governing has a natural moderating influence on anyone. Morales could easily get bogged down in deciding whom to appoint to official positions. The foreign lenders (the IMF especially) on whom Bolivia depends for much of its national budget, will be sure to apply moderating pressures. Foreign oil producers will be threatening legal actions. Santa Cruz will be threatening self-declared forms of autonomy. That is a lot to deal with for any government.
Bolivian social movements are directly concerned about these pressures on Morales. They know well that whatever major changes he will be able to make he will need to make in the first three months of his presidency, when his historic mandate is still fresh.
The signals of which way Evo will go will not be seen in his rhetoric (“anti-Yankee” rhetoric just seems his natural discourse) or in acts of symbolism (I am sure we can count on Bolivia’s new President to take the oath of office with neither a coat or a tie.).
If you want to see which way Morales and MAS will govern, keep your eye on what he does on gas and oil. Will he quickly tell foreign oil producers holding current contracts with Bolivia that all those contracts are now going to be renegotiated from scratch? Will he put Bolivia’s state-owned oil company back into business exploring and exploiting underground reserves?
He ought to do both those things, both because they are smart economics for the nation and because he was given a very clear mandate to do so. Yet, it is on these choices that the foreign pressure will be brought most heavily to bear in the coming weeks.
Which way Evo? Wait and see.
First, I think the question; “Can Morales find competent people to run the government?” is getting a little silly. I get asked that by almost every foreign reporter who calls. How does one measure competence? Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada was certainly able at negotiating really bad deals, behind closed-doors, with foreign energy companies. Is that competence? Tuto Quiroga was part of the government that negotiated and signed the Cochabamba water contract with Bechtel, the contract that resulted in huge overnight water price hikes. Is that competence? Both those presidents managed to kill their own people by the dozens. Is that competence?
Morales has a huge pool of competent, progressive professionals to draw on, including many whom probably would never have been willing to enter government before. In one of my meetings with the Vice President to be, Alvaro Garcia Linera, as he was considering joining the MAS ticket, Alvaro specifically mentioned that finding good and talented people was a priority and he knows where to find them.
The more interesting question is: Will Morales moderate his positions, especially on gas and oil, after he actually has to govern? To be sure, governing has a natural moderating influence on anyone. Morales could easily get bogged down in deciding whom to appoint to official positions. The foreign lenders (the IMF especially) on whom Bolivia depends for much of its national budget, will be sure to apply moderating pressures. Foreign oil producers will be threatening legal actions. Santa Cruz will be threatening self-declared forms of autonomy. That is a lot to deal with for any government.
Bolivian social movements are directly concerned about these pressures on Morales. They know well that whatever major changes he will be able to make he will need to make in the first three months of his presidency, when his historic mandate is still fresh.
The signals of which way Evo will go will not be seen in his rhetoric (“anti-Yankee” rhetoric just seems his natural discourse) or in acts of symbolism (I am sure we can count on Bolivia’s new President to take the oath of office with neither a coat or a tie.).
If you want to see which way Morales and MAS will govern, keep your eye on what he does on gas and oil. Will he quickly tell foreign oil producers holding current contracts with Bolivia that all those contracts are now going to be renegotiated from scratch? Will he put Bolivia’s state-owned oil company back into business exploring and exploiting underground reserves?
He ought to do both those things, both because they are smart economics for the nation and because he was given a very clear mandate to do so. Yet, it is on these choices that the foreign pressure will be brought most heavily to bear in the coming weeks.
Which way Evo? Wait and see.
54 Comments:
My fervent hope is that Evo implements exactly the type of reforms that he campaigned on - nationalizing the gas and other industries, legalizing coca, and hopefully implementing some socialist policies.
I further hope that the US and others quietly allow this to happen with a minimum of fuss.
Then, when the whole thing comes crumbling down Bolivian's can finally stop blaming the IMF or the US for their problems.
If it is somehow a tremendous success, more power to Evo and kudos to Bolivia.
But either way, Bolivian's need a serious dose of realization that they are (and have for many years been) the authors of their own destiny.
I believe Evo was the best choice for Bolivia now - not because he'll be successfull, but because I believe he'll fail. And failure on his own terms is the only way to eventually open the door to the reforms that Bolivia really does need, instead of the empty demagogory and race-baiting it's getting.
Above all Bolivia needs to heal itself internally. Unfortunately, Evo is even less equiped to do that (so far) than anyone else I can think of (except maybe Mallku).
Bolivia needs union and healing and the ability to bring together different ethnicities (including "whites") and regions under the banner of "one Bolivia". Easy? Hell no. But that's what Bolivia must do.
Evo is a race-baiter and demagogue who is exacerbating the very problems that bring Bolivia down.
Sure, it was past time for an indigenous candidate to win the presidency. I'm glad to see that the traditionally marginalized people have used the ballot box to express their desires.
But the enfranchisment of a marginalized majority (to use once again overused lingo) does not necessarily make for good politics or even a healthy society, especially when the basis for that enfranchisment is basically "screw whitey" or in Evo's constructive phrasing, "Long live Coca, Death to the Yankies" (now that's a constructive platform).
Take Zimbabwe for example...
Finally, a special shout out to:
1. Those foreigners who's expertise on Bolivia is limited to using it as a rhetorical tool to justify your own worldview. For every educated observer on this forum, there are 9 more who are clueless and just spout empty pre-made phrases from the leftist jargon book.
2. Thoes middle class intellectual Bolivian's who mistakenly believe that they are part of/identified with the repressed Bolivian underclass - you're not. You've got more than most do and if you think you're even vaguely "identified with" the campesinos you're living in a dreamworld. Realize it your not, you're just as much a beneficiary of racial inequity and marginalization as the next Bolivian middle/upper classer. Your just as hated and hateable to the truly downtrodden as the next guy. It's just that you're too blinded by your own self-congratulatory discourse to see it or too obtuse to recognize it. While 80% of the Bolivian poplulation is marginalized, 98% believe they are.
If you're money is where you're mouth is you'll soon be cheerfully helping campesinos subdivide your land and belongings and you'll be giving up your cushy middle class lifestyle to work on a collective farm. Here's to hoping that after years of empty rhetoric you get what you've been asking for.
(And for all of you Goni haters out there, for all of Goni's failings, Evo's victory owes more to Goni's Popular Participation law and its various fruits than anything else.)
Sorry - my wife as warned me against taking the bait, but Ijust had to get that off my chest.
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I love how "Anonymous" people speak their minds.
Evo will succeed and prove his critics wrong like Chavez in Venezuela and Castro in Cuba.
Unlike people who use their real name, like, say, "villain n' black".
I've posted here many a time under my real name. Unfortunately I actually have close ties to Bolivia and not all of my comments would be well taken. I'd rather not lose friendships over this.
And if Castro and Chavez are your knights in shining armor......
You jusy have to click on my name to find out my info. It's not brain surgery. Unlike you I'm not ashamed/scared of what I think nor would I change that for anyone i.e. friends.
Villain N' Black is an alias of the great MC Ren aka Brother Lorenzo X. A revolutionary who has stood against racial inequality and police brutality. But you probably wouldn't know anything like that because you probably listen to Gospel and think the world is in such a wonderful state.
Who are your close ties? D.E.A. perhaps?
I'm sure the DEA has lots of time to debate with you on internet forums...
I don't listen to Gospel, but I've listented to rap and attended Public Enemy concerts when you were just getting out of your diapers, and I happened to be black as well, so don't presume to lecture me about racial inequality.
In any event, I'm not ashamed of what I think and have said so publicly many times. But tact is something you use with people you care about (I actually have friends with varied political beliefs). And I didn't feel like being tactful today.
Wheren't we talking about Evo's personnel problems?
I assure you nor the dea nor nsa have time to survey or respond to these posts. I'd be more concerned about the patriot act 2 or any other crappy domestic spying legislature. Quit the parannoia already.
Jonathan
Stratfor.com just posted this the other day about Morales' on the energy sector:
"In an initial move likely to assuage the traditional elite's concerns about nationalizing the country's natural gas industry -- a sector central to Bolivian politics -- Morales promised Dec. 19 not to expropriate the nation's natural gas reserves controlled by oil companies. Nationalizing the energy industry represents a central populist goal, in conflict with elite support for privatization measures. This concession makes Morales appear to be moving toward the center economically, not unlike da Silva."
The elite will work with any government.
I have the feeling that everytime someone in this blog refers to the elite, he/she picture a white rich person.
Many rich people in Bolivia look like EVO. They just don't like to go out there and show how wealthy they are.
People here are tooo focus on making racial separations, when the real separation is as function of education.
And yes you racial fixation been, there are plenty of well educated indigenous looking bolivians!!
The rich, any color, will play along with any government as long as it allows them to keep being rich...and you lefties, this ain't a sin!
why do you care about WHO writes an opinion Villain N' Black?
The important thing here is about WHAT is said and debate WHAT is said.
But you, Villain N' Black, a revolutionary wanna be, you want to fight against the WHO so that you don't need to use your brain to debate the WHAT!!
Is this clear for you? or do you want me to explain it with CHUIS?
The D.E.A. statement was sarcasm!
Anonymous you are correct when you say the elite come in many different colors and that they will "play" along with any government if it keeps their status. Is that a sin?
1) Gluttony is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires.
2)Greed is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual.
To the other anonymous. I highly doubt you were listening to Public Enemy when I was in my diapers seeing that I have collaberated with many prominant figures in hip hop.
I agree that there are many poorer "white" bolivians and many rich(er) indigenous bolivians.
I think one of the great disservices that Evo has done is to take what truly is a racially, ethnically, and regionally diverse country (with LOTS of intermixing) and polarize it with an "US" vs. "THEM" mentality.
Few people fit into the tidy catagories that fuel Evo's fire (rich v. poor, white v. indigneous) and as Anonymous suggests above, more than a few who voted for Evo may be in for the rude awakening that other Bolivian's catagorize them as "THEM" rather than "US".
I was listening to rap in about 1982/83 and attended my first Public Enemy concert in 1985. According to your profile that would make you about 5 to 8 years old.
Sorry, you're right, you weren't in diapers.
However, the point isn't to fight about street cred (I'm not sure how north american hip-hop street cred relates to Evo Morales's gas nationalization plan, but such is the way of the internet).
The point I was trying make, (as well stated by another above) is that you have no right, nor basis, for attacking me personally. You know nothing about me.
If it's hard for you to imagine a Black Public Enemy fan who is deeply suspicious of demogogary by race-baiting socialists then maybe you need to expand your imagination.
Well I guess it really doesn't matter. I just think it would be easier for me to reference someone rather than anonymous. I just find it humorous that someone believes something so strongly but is scared/ashamed, doing so under the premise that (s)he is being tactiful.
Revolutionary wannabe? I admit I'm no Che but I'm far from a wannabe. From experiencing some fairly desperate situations during my times in places like Palestine and Bosnia and even Bolivia I know the problems of the world are far larger than one person can handle but I think my compassion and understanding of the human struggle has made me a better person.
Well if you listen to real hip hop you are what they call an Uncle Tom or House and, you are correct, that is a person I don't want to know.
Hip Hop is about struggle so yes in a way it relates as the Bolivian poor are in a struggle.
Anyways, back to the debate. I think it will be wise of Evo to take a central approach and renegotiate the contracts. The oil companies don't have much of a chocie do they?
Humorous though you may find it, it is not a pretense. I have many friends who happen to be what I would refer to as "middle class revolutionary wannabies" (to borrow your terminology). Their heart is in the right place. I suspect that some of them read this forum. To call them "posers" is, I believe correct, but also disrespectful of their feelings and beliefs.
As for you, I applaud your desire to make this a better world. I too, have spent much of my life trying to make this a better world - which is precisely why I find people like Evo so dangerous.
Hatred (even justifiable hatred) under the guise of redeeming the oppressed is nonethless hatred. Hate and racial and economic divisivness is not what Bolivia needs right now.
Well Villain, Anynomous throws you an olive branch and you call him/her and Uncle Tom.
That's productive.
I think your words speak for themselves....
That's it, I'm out.
My wife was right - every time I try this again (that is posting to this forum), I remember why I swore the last time that I'd never waste my time like this....
God help this world!
"...official results showing Morales with a clear majority win in the popular vote (53% according the current statistics out of the Corte Electoral)..."
WOW...this is quite remarkable considering the article on El Diario yesterday highlighting that TV media in Bolivia was grossly biased against Morales. They quoted a study by the Asociación Latinoamericana para la Comunicación Social (Comunican)- 89 % of the informative content was negative toward Morales, 10 % neutral and 1% positive. Turn that coin on over on Quiroga, 78% was positive, 2% negative and 20 % neutral, Lastly, Doria Medina, got 75% positive, 5% negative and 20% neutral.
I suspect international media also reflected the same pre-election bias and it will be interesting to see if this is maintained, exacerbated or corrected toward a more neutral position in the weeks and months to come.
As to competency? If the criterion is results based, well we know the blue party mobilized to effectively translate public will to a landslide victory. The Flores blog expressed personally but I feel it is the shared sentiment among many professional Bolivians who had never participated in politics before who now see a clean slate and the possibility to put their efforts forward to serve their country.
Finally, for you pushers of the "race card", the MAS government will be of integrity and dignity which have lacked in past Bolivian politics. Indigenous people have not lost these virtues and if they take them to practice in goverment, Bolivia will truly be integrated and like the WHIPALA, the indigenous movement's flag, will uphold all the colors of the rainbow which represent life in all its' manifestations.
Anonymous 1 (P.E. fan): I respect and understand what you say but I disagree that Evo is dangerous. I think the media makes him out to be a "monster" and we know how the media plays. There are more dangerous men in power i.e Bush. They elect Arnie for Governor knowing that he was an admirer of Hitler.
Andrew T: I don't see how calling me a wannabee is "extending an olive branch." I don't know. I could be wrong.
Anonymous 2: Good riddance. Have fun on Goni's nutz fool.
Somebody Else's Wife said... No point in arguing with "them". Now that they realize they are beaten they resort to other tactics. To them, indigenous people are incompetent. But what can you expect they probably get their news source from Fox or CNN lol.
I just really don't understand it I guess. People on here thinking the situation is going to get worse with Evo in power. But how is it going to get worse?
Despite being rich in natural resources, Bolivia is the second poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Thirty percent of the population subsists on less than a dollar per day. Bolivia is a beneficiary of the HIPC. Fifty-eight percent of the population lives in poverty, almost one in four in extreme poverty. Bolivia has the second highest of infant, child and maternal mortality rate in the hemisphere.
I don't know maybe I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but it looks to me like they are pretty close to rock bottom.
Try sub-saharan Africa on for size.
Bolivia, while in bad straights, has not faced mass starvation or ongoing warfare.
One of the problems that Bolivia faces, IMHO is that they THINK it can't get any worse. There is an ingrained sense of "poor us" not only among the highly marginalized of the altiplano who really have it bad, but among comparatively well off urban and sub-urban dwellers.
64 countries rate below Bolivia in the "Human Develoopment Index" and just about dead center on the Trade and Development Index where it rates a 67 out of 110.
Granted, these are imprecise measures, but as bad as it is in Bolivia, it can get plenty worse.
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Fair enough Africa is quite the situation. But we are talking about a country that should not be in the situation it is with all of its resources. 113 out of 177 is nothing to be proud of.
as a cuidador de autos- car washer and watcher- might say to Evo as he pulls in the Bolivian car to the 21st century, "dalo, dalo joven, el golpe avisa!"
pero dejando de joder, I hope Evo will simply carry out his program, and the way I see myself and our social class helping out is through constructive criticism, and using our tools to unite the country and educate the rest of the world what kind of a place we are building together
Another perspective:
Bolivia's Home-Grown President
by DAPHNE EVIATAR
December 21, 2005
On its face, the election of Evo Morales to the presidency of Bolivia would seem like an enormous victory for the left--another domino in the line of Latin American nations turning away from Washington Consensus-style economics to forge a path of its own. But the question remains whether the first indigenous president in Bolivia's history will be allowed--by the Bolivian Congress or by the larger international financial and legal system--to live up to his promises and fulfill the enormous expectations of his supporters. If not, Bolivia could face an even more unstable future.
The symbolic value of a Morales victory cannot be overstated, in a country where symbols represent the passions of a people mobilized to change what they see as 500 years of state oppression. Thus the wiphala--the checkered rainbow flag of indigenous resistance--flew from every Morales campaign vehicle; technocratic economic policy proposals about how the nation should manage its natural gas industry became symbols of Bolivian "independence" and "self-governance"; and politicians called for the defense of Pachamama (Mother Earth) as they pressed their home-grown solutions for this cash-poor but resource-rich country, urging the rejection of the North American capitalistas.
Massive support for that rejection fueled widespread protests last summer, when hundreds of thousands of Bolivians filled the streets of El Alto and La Paz, blocking roads, burning tires and throwing dynamite until then-President Carlos Mesa finally resigned--the second president forced out of office in as many years. So for the popular former coca growers' union president to have won the presidency by an overwhelming and closely monitored vote suggests the vitality of Bolivian democracy and development of a new Latin American consensus.
But will Evo Morales be able to live up to his promises?
Evo's campaign slogans promised "nationalization" of oil and gas reserves, "recuperation" of natural resources for Bolivians and a renewed respect for campesinos and workers around the country. "We will nationalize all of Bolivia's natural resources," the charismatic candidate told hundreds of Quechua farmers who crowded into the main square in the town of Cliza, showering him with confetti and draping wreaths of locally grown produce and flowers around his neck. "We cannot give away what was given to us by Pachamama."
Those sorts of promises went over well in the small farming pueblos, where women in their colorful eighteenth-century-style peasant skirts and shawls literally danced in the streets and waved their broad-brimmed straw hats as Morales rode by in his campaign caravan, the villagers eagerly reaching for the campaign flyers he left in his path. After all, Evo's supporters--poor indigenous farmers and laborers, who sell their goods for a pittance in local markets and make up the 40 percent of the country the World Bank labels "extremely poor"--have little other faith left to hold on to.
Years of Washington Consensus-style economic policies, first adopted in the mid-1980s under the label "shock therapy" and expanded in the mid-1990s when the country privatized its oil, gas, electric and other major industries, have done little to help Bolivia's people, more than 65 percent of whom are still stuck below the poverty line. In fact, despite being the testing ground for much of neoliberal economic policy in the past twenty years, the average Bolivian is now poorer than his grandparents were fifty years ago. The privatization schemes, rather than bringing prosperity as promised, have provoked a wave of anger against international financial institutions and the United States, which was on display all over Bolivia in this presidential election.
And while the US government has expressed deep fears about a Morales presidency, in many ways it's the United States that has put Morales in the position he is in today. In Bolivia the United States is not only a symbol of foreign capital but of the bitter "war on drugs" that strong-armed Bolivia into accepting a US-financed coca eradication campaign that even the World Bank has admitted bears responsibility for Bolivia's continued poverty. Like everything else in Bolivia, the coca leaf is a symbol--of a locally grown crop, of sacred rituals, of a way of life that allowed Bolivia's peasants, by chewing on the bitter leaves that give energy and stave off hunger, to endure the harsh conditions of the silver and tin mines where they worked as slaves to the Spanish for some 300 years and where many still labor under perilous conditions today.
As indigenous culture increasingly becomes a point of pride rather than a mark of shame in Bolivia, and across South America the symbolism of the coca leaf has gained even more importance--and the ongoing US war against it has stoked Morales's popularity. But the most potent symbol in this election for most Bolivians was natural gas, an ever-more coveted resource as the international price of oil skyrockets. And the foreign oil companies that produce it--the transnacionales, as they call them here, almost spitting out the word--represent to many just the latest form of foreign exploitation of Bolivia and its people. Thus every candidate in this election had to promise to "nationalize" the natural gas industry--a word that suggests expropriation of private company property and sets off alarm bells with foreign investors, but which actually means a range of different things in this ideologically charged political culture.
For the right-wing candidate, Jorge Quiroga, it meant respecting existing oil and gas contracts but "nationalizing the benefits" of the industry--that is, spending more of its revenue to pacify the population. But for Morales, it has meant forcing a conversion of existing gas contracts into ones where the state gets 50 percent of the profits and retains control over how, to whom and at what price Bolivian gas is sold. Although that's not what's usually meant by expropriation, his plan still has foreign energy companies panicking. Under their current contracts and the 1996 hydrocarbons law that privatized the industry, private companies had virtually complete control over the production and sale of oil and gas, and paid only 18 percent royalties and no taxes--a deal that even government and industry insiders who helped write the law and negotiate the contracts now privately admit is a bad deal for Bolivia.
Still, almost every major oil company--including Spain's Repsol, British Gas, ExxonMobil and Texas-based Vintage Oil--has already threatened to bring a claim in international arbitration against Bolivia. And if Morales nationalizes the industry, under the terms of the bilateral investment treaties between Bolivia and the companies' home countries, they could sue--in private, closed-door arbitration, without the safeguards normally provided by publicly appointed judges in an international court--for not only the approximately $3.5 billion private companies have already invested in the natural gas industry here but also for the loss of expected profits, which could total tens of billions of dollars. For a country like Bolivia, whose annual revenues are only a little more than $2 billion a year, that's no small threat. It's for that reason--and a host of other ways in which the United States, the World Bank, the IMF and the Inter-American Development Bank can threaten to pull the noose tight around Bolivia's highly indebted neck--that an Evo Morales presidency may well remain largely a symbolic victory.
The threat of lawsuits by up to thirty major oil companies will thwart any new government's ability to significantly change the current system. Nor can Morales do much to address the plight of coca farmers: Although he has said he'll campaign to decriminalize the coca leaf on an international level, he knows he can do little to change the system at home. A refusal to continue the coca eradication campaign would require the United States, under US law, to vote against any Bolivian application for loans or grants from the World Bank, IMF or Inter-American Development Bank--all critical to Bolivia's ability to finance its debt and fuel its economy. In effect, any attempt by the newly elected president to do exactly what Bolivians just elected him to do would marshal the forces of the international financial community against the Bolivian government and doom the country's already-precarious financial stability.
"It's OK, there are plenty of other countries, like China, that will be willing to help us," Morales told me on a rare break from campaigning shortly before the election. Countries like China and Venezuela may be exactly where he turns. But many on the left in Bolivia think he's not likely to buck the American and international business pressure and will stick with a modestly reformed version of the status quo. That won't satisfy many of the more radical Aymara activists, who are intent on breathing real life into the powerful symbols of the indigenous movement.
"The identity of people and of communities has become a very important issue in the country," Pablo Mamani, a sociologist who teaches at the public universities in El Alto and La Paz, said. "The Aymara will all vote for Evo, because we want to see an Aymara in the presidency. But if he is not really allowed to govern, the militant social organizations can create a scenario of very severe conflict between the people and the state."
The nation's right-wing movements, particularly those concentrated in Santa Cruz, Bolivia's wealthiest province where the energy and agricultural export businesses are based, may well encourage that. "Bolivia is facing a big problem," Carlos Rojas, the burly president of an association of agriculture producers, told me from his Santa Cruz office. "We don't accept Mr. Morales's policy about land," he said, referring to Morales's support for redistribution of large idle estates, most of which are concentrated in Santa Cruz. "We will have a conflict with him.... The only way for the country to move up and get out of poverty is by working, every day and all the time. If the social movements go and block the roads, we cannot work. We believe it's important to give Mr. Morales the opportunity to work for this country. But if he's not effective, he's going to be out--probably before the end of his term."
In fact, some Bolivians are already planning on that. "We believe MAS (The Movement Towards Socialism, Morales's party) won't change anything," said Abraham Delgado Mancilla, a soft-spoken and serious 28-year-old law student and Aymara Indian who helped organize the massive protests that ultimately brought down the last two Bolivian presidents. "The state doesn't serve us with this system," he told me as we walked through the packed streets of El Alto, an impoverished, makeshift city of home-made brick buildings built high into the Andes that rise above La Paz, where Mancilla lives and continues to organize students and neighbors. "So we must move forward. What happens in Bolivia is twenty years of reforms, and nothing changes. We're still poor. The only road to solving poverty is by nationalization and radical redistribution of land," he said, growing more animated. "Evo will not be able to do what he says. His programs will change nothing. We're waiting for him to fail. And if he does, the people will come out with even more force," he said. I asked him what that would mean. "I think what's going to happen is there will be a civil war."
VIllian in Black is a joke, but this are the lines that cracked me up!
My wife was right - every time I try this again (that is posting to this forum), I remember why I swore the last time that I'd never waste my time like this....
Dude! I AM WITH YOU. Time is so precious.
Dude!
You can have a better joke at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4549802.stm
and this one is on the Bolivian news!
Jim Shultz, did I hear right? Does Bolivia owes zero dollars to IMF?
Could you report on this? anyone?
I believe this is a joke from my republican friends. I told them to come to this blog to know better.
IMF story here:
http://www.efenews.com/latinamerica/detallenoticia.asp?opcion=1&id=517983
No need to wait and see. Simply read this Wall Street Journal article.
http://online.wsj.com/search#SB113531097065930334
Wrong address. Should be
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB113531097065930334-search.html?KEYWORDS=bolivia&COLLECTION=wsjie/6month
Rather than paste entire articles here, one might just paste a link. The Eviatar article above is from The Nation: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060109/eviatar
I have links to a few more good articles and stuff here: http://danmoriarty.blogspot.com/
Hey... this concession by the evil IMF puts us at a GDP:Debt ratio of 54 percent meaning Bolivia can only cover about six months of imports (goods and services) with its current gross national product,the rest goes to debt paying.
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