Bolivia to Require US Visitors to Get Visas

If you look in the American Heritage Dictionary (New College Edition, 2005) under the term royal pain in the ass, for definition number three you will find the words:
Noun. The experience a Bolivian goes through to seek a tourist entry visa to the United States.
Bolivians seeking tourist entry to the US have the pleasure of completing the following steps:
1. Pay $110 (twice the monthly minimum wage) at a DHL office for the honor of submitting a visa application and seeking an interview at the US Embassy in La Paz.
2. Wait (usually months) for your interview to be scheduled.
3. Travel to La Paz and wait in a long line in Arctic-like morning weather outside the fortress-like, white US Embassy.
4. Approach the first window and have your paperwork reviewed (including submission of all kinds of personal economic information, such as bank statements, employment letters, etc.). Have a good chance of being turned away right then for completing the confusing (English-only) forms incorrectly.
5. Advance to a second window for questioning about your intentions. By the luck of the draw you might chat through the thick glass window with someone who is friendly, or with an official who seems interested in turning surly into a fine art.
6. Stand a good 9 out of 10 chance of being denied (no refund of the $110 you paid the US government for the experience).
I have watched the attrition process a few times while making my own visits to the “interview room” at the Embassy. Denial, in many cases, seems just arbitrary. My landlord, an accountant at the university in his 40s with a family here and two houses, got denied a visa to visit his relatives in Nebraska. Did the US government really think he was sneaking in to become a day laborer in Arlington? [Added note #1: Undocumented Bolivian immigrants speaking Quechua, by the way, played a key role in rebuilding the Pentagon after 9/11.]
What’s the current process for someone from the US to enter Bolivia as a tourist?
1. Get off the plane from Miami.
2. Hand the friendly fellow at the immigration desk the ten- line, half-page immigration form that lists your birth date, nationality and destination.
3. Get a free 90-day entry visa and collect your luggage (You do have to pay $45 to leave.)
So, it is no surprise that many Bolivians feel like the process between our two nations isn’t exactly reciprocal and on January 1st President Evo Morales issued an executive decree mandating that, starting soon, citizens of the US visiting Bolivia will need to have pre-arranged entry visas.
[Added note #2: If US citizens want to stay long-term they face visa requirements equally as cumbersome as the US, including an AIDS test and many days spent in long lines.]
The Troubling Game of Bolivian Visa Math
Okay, let’s dispense with the self-disclosure and politics first.
No, my family and I are not likely to be affected by the new requirement. My wife and I (we have lived here for more than nine years) have permanent resident visas in our blue US passports so we can come and go as we please. Our three children each have dual citizenship and two passports.
Yes, Bolivia certainly has both a legitimate right to assert whatever entry rules it desires and, as noted above, has ample justification to let the process for people from the US coming here be a little more like it is the other way around. Evo also asserted security concerns recalling that, last March, a deranged Californian came here as a US tourist and exploded bombs in two La Paz hotels, leaving two people dead.
So, with the legitimacy of Bolivia’s demand recognized, let’s take a look at the practical side of things.
What the new visa process for US citizens (and potentially Europeans as well) will look like remains unclear, but here is how it was described in today’s Cochabamba daily, Opinion:
What US visitors would be required to submit:
1. A birth certificate.
2. A certificate of residency (which we don’t actually have in the US).
3. Documentation of financial assets (bank records, etc.).
4. Documentation of employment.
This is essentially a mirror of the US requirements for Bolivians, and all would-be visitors would have to solicit such a visa from the Bolivian Embassy in Washington.
Tourism industry officials in Bolivia were quick to express their objections to the plan and their worries that it will cost Bolivia a lucrative chunk of its tourism trade. The Vice-minister of Government Coordination dismissed those concerns, noting, “…besides, the number of US citizens entering the country is minimal.”
So let’s do a little math.
With Aerosur now joining LAB and American Airlines to offer direct service to and from Miami (and AA adding three new incoming flights a week) that means that each week there are about 18 flights headed here directly from the US. The planes headed here each have a seating capacity of about 200. Let’s assume (for purposes of argument) that just one in ten of those seats is filled by a US citizen coming in as a tourist. That would mean about 360 people per week, almost 19,000 per year.
In December I paid a visit to the Bolivian Embassy in Washington and to the country’s competent new Ambassador. The Embassy has a current staff of seven, with a heavy burden of existing responsibilities for diplomatic relations, dealing with the Bolivian immigrant community and other tasks. If everyone, including the Ambassador, dropped everything and did nothing but process US tourist visas eight hours per day, five days per week, for fifty weeks a year (trust me, they are going to need two weeks off), that translates out to 2,700 visas per staff member, or about ten per day per person.
Likely Effects
To be sure, a lot of visitors will just deal with it. I travel all over the world for work and I have had to leap through hoops tougher than this. My favorite was when I had to send my US passport by Federal Express to the Ugandan Embassy in Washington, only to have Fed. Ex. send it back to me in Bogotá, Colombia instead of Cochabamba, Bolivia (all those Bs, Cs, and As could confuse anyone). I barely got my passport back in time to travel (and failed in my effort to get my passport frequent flier miles for its round the world tour).
A good many other people won’t be so willing to jump through the new Bolivian visa hoops. What portion of those tourists who head to Machu Pichu and then add on a week’s worth of visiting to La Paz or Lake Titicaca will just respond by saying, “I have to send my passport and bank records to the Bolivian Embassy in Washington? Hmmm, I hear Lima is nice.” If so, that translates into a good many restaurant, hotel and other tourism related jobs that are going to get a lot less plentiful.
Now maybe the Bolivian government has already planed all of this out and has some surprise streamlined process ready to spring on us that will avoid all this. I am willing to take on-line bets that it doesn’t. Maybe this will turn out to be more bluster than substance. That’s a possibility too.
Again, in my opinion Bolivia has a fair point to make about the entry requirements being so vastly different for Bolivians and US citizens to visit one another’s countries. But there are also ways to do visas that are less cumbersome. In the former Soviet Republic of Georgia, I got my visa [legally] at the airport in the middle of the night for a reasonable price. The same in Croatia. Brazil didn’t ask for any bank records but did make me pay $100 (but in Brazil they throw in beaches, which Bolivia doesn’t).
In other words, Bolivia may be faced with the dilemma that what seems fair in one way, will end up being both economically damaging and a bureaucratic mess in other ways.
Perhaps what Bolivia should do is require visiting tourists to bring in bagels. It would demonstrate just a little more of a commitment to come here and I know a few people who would take them off the government’s hands at a fair price.
33 Comments:
I vote for the bagel law. That's the kind of revolutionary thinking I can get behind.
I second the observations about the offensive nature of the US visa process. My Bolivian sister-in-law, who had a house, money, an employed husband, and two teen-age daughters in Bolivia, and who had just traveled to and returned promptly from Europe the year before, applied for visas to come to the US with her 18-month-old son to be with her little sister, my wife, for the birth of our first baby. Among other things, her application included a letter from my father, a retired DEA agent, taking responsibility for her in the US and assuring that she would return on time. The embassy gave her a visa, and denied her 18-month-old. They wanted her to leave him home as further insurance that she'd return. When she pointed out that he was still nursing and needed to be with her, the consular agent at the embassy had the nerve to tell her she should ween him anyway.
I also agree with Jim's sentiments that, as fair as this decision by Bolivia seems in light of the process Bolivians face to visit the US, it is a bummer. And it seems a bit petty to me. Tit-for-tat, degrading-pain-in-the-ass-for-degrading-pain-in-the-ass hardly seems the high road when asserting one's dignity.
And, while this is hardly going to make or break the MAS government, Evo ought to consider the fact that many of the gringos who travel to Bolivia to witness the historic changes taking place there and explore ways of being in more engaged solidarity with the Bolivia are people, often young students, who hardly have the economic and residential stability this new policy claims to require. If Evo thinks it preferable to host only wealthy tourists and business people looking for potential exploits, he should ask his friends in Cuba how dignified that feels.
P.S. Is it true that Spain just began requiring Bolivians to get tourist visas? My understanding - open to correction, but told me by various Bolivians - is that most of the Bolivians emmigrating as undocumented workers in recent years have gone to Spain; that they've done so because, as a former colony, they were not required to get tourist visas to enter the country; that Spain has decided to change this (I thought it was actually going into effect now - the same time Evo is making this new law re: the US); and that Bolivians have been flooding the passport offices in recent months and leaving for Spain in droves in order to get in before the new requirement goes/went into effect. In fact, I witnessed such lines at Passport offices in Cochabamba a year ago, reportedly in response to rumors that Spain was considering such a change.
It is also my understanding that Evo's new rule does not affect Spaniards.
While a jab at los yanquis is always understandable, is it not a bit ironic that this latest jab would come at the same time that Bolivia is being slapped with such a similar new rule from a different and arguably more significant (regarding the current outflux of Bolivians) country?
Or am I totally wrong about all of this? I freely admit that's possible, too.
All people are created equal, but all countries are not.
If the US opened the doors wide it would have a population of 600 million in no time... What the Bolivian (and other) governments do not see is that the tide is going out.
Each morning I see HUNDREDS of Cochabambinos standing in line at immigration (the new office near UMSS now) waiting for a passport. Yes, Spain is the country of choice and the rush is on as the EU is requiring visas starting on April First.
My prediction is that in a few years Bolivia will falter miserably. There will be very few workers to carry the load as they will be in Spain starting new lives. MANY having started those new lives after leaving their spouse and children behind without looking back. When will the Bolivian government address this situation?
Sorry for the passion (and the lack of staying on subject) but it's difficult to sit here and watch as the country is reduced to needy ancianos and directionless children.
Sincerely.
I was thinking in going to barcelona for holydays, but since you are saying that there are many indios there I guess I ll go to some other place, no way I ll spend that many euros to see indios, here I can see tons for free.
Kill the indios & peasants we need a new class - also screw the kiss ass PODEMOS - Quiroga suck my dick -
Moving commentary from the above anonymous...
Anyway...while "reciprocity" is a valid excuse, it is not a smart move.
Seems like the only reason why Evo's government would be doing this is "Por joder". Definitely not the proper way for reasserting one's dignity. I don't mind paying $30 more bucks to get in the country...but the other requirements sound too much.
I always thought the claims of Evo's government being under manipulation from Chavez were not true. But this is clearly the case.
I hope this Visa deal doesn't get more ridiculous with its requirements.
El Grindio writes:
Here is an articulate opinion-with the qualifications of its author-as to why the visa requirement should be regarded as a good thing:
Alfonso Gumucio:
Escritor, cineasta, periodista, fotógrafo y especialista en comunicación para el desarrollo. Es autor de una veintena de libros y películas documentales, y ha trabajado en seis continentes en proyectos de comunicación participativa para el cambio social. Es Director Ejecutivo del Consorcio de Comunicación para el Cambio Social.
Fue miembro de la redacción del Semanario "Aquí" hasta el golpe de 1980, y ha publicado en diarios y revistas de Bolivia, América Latina, Europa, Norteamérica, África y Asia.
Desde 1980 su trabajo en comunicación para el desarrollo lo ha llevado a todas las regiones del planeta. Trabajó con UNICEF en Nigeria (1990-94) y Haití (1995-97); fue director del "Tierramérica" (1998), una plataforma regional de información para el medio ambiente. Ha sido consultor de FAO, UNESCO, PNUD, PNUMA, la Cooperación Australiana, UNAIDS, DTCD y la Fundación Rockefeller en proyectos de comunicación para el cambio social.
Ha escrito veinte libros de poesía, narrativa, testimonio, y estudios sobre literatura, cine y comunicación: Historia del Cine Boliviano (México, 1982); Cine, Censura y Exilio en América Latina (1979); Luis Espinal y el Cine (1986); Las Radios Mineras de Bolivia (1989) en colaboración con Lupe Cajías; Comunicación Alternativa y Cambio Social (1990); La Máscara del Gorila (1982) que obtuvo el Premio del Instituto Nacional de Bellas Artes de México (INBA); y Haciendo Olas: Comunicación Participativa para el Cambio Social (2001), entre otros.
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RECIPROCIDAD DIPLOMATICA
By
ALFONSO GUMUCIO
El año 2007 empezó con varias medidas dictadas por el gobierno de Evo Morales. El Presidente reunió a sus ministros el 31 de diciembre y de esa reunión salieron cinco decretos presidenciales y tres anteproyectos de ley. Estos últimos se refieren al Seguro Universal de Salud, al Nuevo Código Procesal del Trabajo, y a la Administración de Justicia Comunitaria en los Pueblos Indígenas, mientras que los decretos se refieren a las tarifas de telecomunicaciones, al plan estratégico de desarrollo amazónico y a temas de migración. Todos temas importantes.
Curiosamente, y a pesar de la importancia social que tienen las medidas y los anteproyectos de ley, algunos medios de información se han ocupado de destacar solamente un tema: la decisión del gobierno boliviano de exigir, de ahora en adelante, visas a los ciudadanos de Estados Unidos que quieren ingresar a Bolivia. La manera como La Prensa presenta ese tema es bochornosa, pues sugiere que el pedir visa a los gringos es una “provocación”. En la misma línea se pronuncian las agencias de viajes, que ven afectados sus negocios, y algunos diarios gringos de tercera categoría, que usan títulos sensacionalistas para distorsionar el tema. Titulares como “Bolivia prohíbe la entrada libre de ciudadanos norteamericanos” no hacen sino presentar la medida bajo un ángulo exclusivamente político.
Lo primero que hay que decir a todos los periodistas ignorantes que critican la medida del gobierno, es que uno de los principios básico de la diplomacia es la reciprocidad. Esto quiere decir que un país debe tratar a otros países de acuerdo a las mismas reglas. En este caso concreto, si los bolivianos tienen necesidad de una visa para ingresar a los Estados Unidos, del mismo modo, los ciudadanos estadounidenses necesitarán una visa para visitar Bolivia. Esto es en aras de la más elemental reciprocidad. Y debe ser lo mismo con otros países que exijan visa a los bolivianos, sin excepciones.
Estados Unidos se ha acostumbrado a dominar el planeta de tal manera que sus ciudadanos se pasean por el mundo sin necesidad de visas. Entran y salen de los países como Pedro por su casa, tan campantes, sin dar explicaciones a nadie. Son muy pocos los países que exigen visa a los ciudadanos de Estados Unidos, y sin embargo Estados Unidos exige visa a casi todos los ciudadanos del mundo, y muy especialmente a los que llegan desde África, Asia, Medio Oriente, América Latina y El Caribe.
Eso es a todas luces y bajo cualquier análisis, una violación de las normas diplomáticas internacionales. Por eso, hace algunos años, Brasil introdujo las mismas medidas que impuso Estados Unidos en sus aeropuertos: cada ciudadano estadounidense que ingresa a Brasil debe dejarse fotografiar y tomar las huellas dactilares, puesto que los brasileños que visitan Estados Unidos, son sometidos al mismo procedimiento.
Entonces, no hay nada extraordinario en la medida del gobierno de Evo Morales, sino que es simplemente un acto de justicia y un cumplimiento de normas. Todos los países deberían seguir ese ejemplo, pues sus ciudadanos son sometidos a los más humillantes procedimientos para ingresar a Estados Unidos. Son prontuariados en el aeropuerto, como si fueran criminales, con foto y huellas dactilares. Peor aún, el gobierno de Bush obliga a las agencias de viajes y a las aerolíneas, a proporcionar informaciones confidenciales sobre todo los pasajeros que se disponen a viajar a Estados Unidos. Ya no es solamente el nombre, número de pasaporte, nacionalidad, fecha de nacimiento, etc…. Ahora, las compañías aéreas tienen que enviar 34 datos sobre cada pasajero, con todos los detalles de cómo, cuando y con quien se hizo cada reservación, el número y peso de las maletas, teléfonos de contacto y direcciones, etc.
Ni siquiera en los tiempos más duros de la Unión Soviética y de la Guerra Fría, cuando todavía se hablaba de la “cortina de hierro”, se aplicaron medidas policiales como las que ahora impone Estados Unidos. La diferencia es que en esos tiempos la propaganda gringa hacía aparecer a la URSS como una gran prisión, un lugar deprimente, mientras que ahora Estados Unidos aparece en los medios de desinformación gringos, como la vanguardia de la lucha por la libertad. Tamaño cinismo solamente es explicable por el control que ejerce el gobierno de Estados Unidos sobre los medios no solamente de su país, sino del mundo entero, incluyendo los aprendices de periodistas que pululan en nuestros diarios nacionales.
En el aeropuerto de Houston me ha tocado escuchar en los altavoces, mensajes como este: “Se avisa a los pasajeros que si hacen bromas sobre nuestras medidas de seguridad, pueden ir a la cárcel”. Ahora, cualquier empleado de esos que revisan los equipajes y obliga a los pasajeros a sacarse los zapatos, se cree el Sheriff del aeropuerto, con autoridad para maltratar a cualquiera. La prepotencia ha ido en aumento de una manera impresionante. El “big brother”, el policía mundial, el invasor de países, se permite lo que solamente los imperios prepotentes y abusivos pueden permitirse.
Por eso es una medida sana la que ha dictado el gobierno de Evo Morales. Como siempre, el presidente le ha dado un barniz político, como si se tratara de un ajuste de cuentas con los gringos, pero eso es simplemente otra bravuconada de las suyas. Ahora esperemos que la medida se mantenga, que el gobierno no dé pasos atrás como ha hecho otras veces, y no acabe pidiendo perdón a los gringos.
Whatever his qualifications are...this guy is saying that Bolivia's new measure is healthy because of north american arrogance.
Meanwhile, the 'reciprosity' measure hasn't been applied to Venezuela. Yet?
As a sovereign nation, Bolivia certainly has a right to place whatever restrictions they want. But the bottom line is that this visa requirement will hurt Bolivia more than it does the U.S. Tourism will be impacted significantly.
As I have said on my on weblog, reciprocity sounds good in principle, but it is not practical and it doesn't reflect the reality of the relationship between these two countries. Thousands of Bolivians want to get out of the country. They would come to the U.S. if there were no visa requirement. There is no flood of Americans trying to emigrate to Bolivia.
Moreover, "reciprocity" as a reason for the visa requirement is hypocritical. There are numerous other countries who require visas from Bolivians (including Venezuela), and others who will soon be adding the requirement (European Union). None of them were singled out. Only the U.S.
"Kill the indios & peasants we need a new class - also screw the kiss ass PODEMOS - Quiroga suck my dick -"
-Post of the month
I agree with Josh Renaud. Reciprocity is a good value, but not one to be oversimplified. Does reciprocity mean that Bolivia should send as much aid (as % of GDP, say) to wealthy nations as wealthy nations send to Bolivia? Inequality is not mainly a creation of diplomatic policy. And even as states strive for reciprocity in their dealings with one another, they also represent populations that are different, with different needs, resources, and trends. Even as we strive to overcome those inequalities, it seems sensible that government policies recognize their existence. The difference between gringos traveling to Bolivia and Bolivians traveling to gringolandia are real.
That said, the main argument against this policy, I think, is more of a two-wrongs-don't-make-a-right argument. Of course Evo has the right to make this decision, and can defend it with a certain logic. But not everything that is within one's rights is wise.
Visa requirements to enter Bolivia? What is the Bolivian gov't looking for as far as bank statements? Is $20,000 enough to have in the bank? What about $100,000? What about if you're a Bolivian with U.S. citizenship going back home to see your family but haven't really built up your, "nest egg" yet? Is that person going to be denied entry into their motherland? Are you kidding me? This is one of the most poorly thought out things that I have ever heard of. Many people, who don't know of Bolivia's beauty and splendor firsthand will now overlook Bolivia (more than ever) due to this asinine visa requirement. If you thought Bolivia was being overlooked before as a favorite tourist destination of S.A., you haven't seen anything yet. I have in the past tried to understand Evo's point of view; he felt marginalized as a member of an indigineous majority being ruled by a non-indigenous minority, and now as president his wish is to see the tables turn. However, I can not understand how this new visa requirement is in the best interest of Bolivia and its people. On the contrary, it's quite obvious that whoever is implementing this visa requiremnt is very much anti-Bolivian. I don't know if it's Evo, or one of his puppet-masters Garcia Linera or Chavez. If it's a Bolivian implementing this, strip them of their citizenship because they do not love their country or their countrymen. A large number of people who depend on tourism for their survival will lose their livelihood because of this visa requirement. Will the Bolivian gov't creat new and viable jobs for those displaced artisans, hotel workers, and airline employees who this new initiative will most directly affect? I'm willing to go all-in on this one and bet not.
Nobody in this string has considered whether or not US tourism to Brazil declined after Brazil implemented reactionary visa requirements in December of 2003 to the US's 9/11 measures. After a cursury search I learned that roughly 70,000 MORE US tourists entered Brazil in 2005 than in 2004 (http://institucional.turismo.gov.br/). I don't know about 2006, but if tourism to Brazil dropped I bet it has a lot more to do with rampant violence than Brazil requiring visas, fingerprints, and photos of all us gringos. Likewise, if Bolivia is a US tourist's desired destination, I doubt these new visa requirements will stem the tide anywhere near as effectively as the violence that we've seen here in recent years.
This is clearly a symbolic reaction to US policy. Sadly it didn't and won't make US headlines, nor will it have any positive affect for Bolivia beyond knowing that now US tourists are visited with the same beaurocratic idiocy that Bolivians tourists to the US are. Given that US tourism to Bolivia risen rapidly in the last decade years and showed every indication of continuing this rise, I think that the best we can now hope for is a slower rise and perhaps expect stagnation if not a fall in US tourism. However, I honestly think that all this new measure will amount to is a serious entry fee for US citizens.
Evo and Co. are intelligent and they have perfected the art of talking tough and acting somewhat softer. The headlines in Bolivia seem sensational and tough on US tourism. This, just like the nationalization and any number of other MAS policies, will have a much more pragmatic reality I believe. David Choquehunaco and Evo worked hard to renew the APDEA, the free trade no-tariff agreement between the US and Bolivia and I don't think the MAS will actually implement strict visa requirements that will seriously reduce US tourism unless the US forces them to. I think Evo is looking to Lula, not Chavez for inspiration this time.
Hi. I am from small country in Europe - from Czech republic. We are a part of European Union, we can go anywhere and anytime in Europe without Visa. We don't need passport, small ID card is good enough for traveling across Europe. But if we want go to U.S. we need VISA. We must pass the exactly same degradation VISA procedures like a Bolivians. U.S. citizen can fly to our country anytime without VISA but we need VISA to visit USA. I understand very good to Morales. Czech politics are not strong enough to make reciprocal action - shame to them ! Sorry my English.
IN Todays Newspaper "los Tiempos" of Cochabamba.. It is said "that if we critizise Evo's new policy of granting visas to US Citizens... then we are spies and agents for the United States"...."Evo" himself has suppose to have said this. What HOG WASH... I understand Evo's thinking... I think the United States (through its diplomatic representatives especially a woman - sorry ladies) has the gall to treat citizens of this country... in our own home country like dirt. When I see this and hear about it, I feel like giving these diplomats a good punch and kick in the ass .... they are treating human's, which are MY country men like skum. What would happen if we treated one of them like this??? All HELL would break loose.
I understand every country no matter how poor or small it is.... it has dignity, but.......We have to go to La Paz no matter where we live in Bolivia, to get an American visa... but....
Yes... Americans will not go to Washigton, show bank statements etc, ect, just to VISIT Bolivia. We are NOT Brazil or even Peru that is a mecca for South American Tourism,( even though Bolivia is a beautiful country with unexplored and unknown places to see)Even spill over, from these countries to Bolivia we will no longer have. I look at the American way of doing things and thinking and of course how we Bolivians do things diffrent and think differnt than Americans. That is natural. I know no American would likely do what we would have to do to get a visa to go to another country. I am sorry, we should not kill our goose that lays the golden eggs. I know many of our government officials would deny this thought in what I am saying, even other Bolivian citizens...Diplomatic reciprocity... Yes... but, in this case NO.... this is the truth and I am... NO AMERICAN AGENT because I say this.
Yes we need change in Bolivia. We have had corrupt white Governments... even now USA won't let us exdradite one of our past Presidents who live in USA.. He was one of the worst.
I believe Evo could do a lot to bring a good change to this coutnry....so I hope he is WISE in doing so. It is hard to see "Campesinos"- especially "Cholos" wanting to domonate the situation (especially politiacal and social) now and it is hard to think that even they have a brain on their heads, but I would and could hope that they could prove themselves to us.... and the world they can do. EVO need NOT listen to his Cuban or Venezuelan friends. much less the Americans, but he must think clearly and do what is best for Boliva..... This is my hope for my country and our Present leaders.... Evo is our elected President, just as other leaders of the country are. May we live in Peace.
Cochabamba, Bolivia
Evo is just Chaves' puppet. That is unfortunately for the country. If we are going to ask for visa to US citizens, that is fine, but we should star by asking Venezuela for visa too as they do with us.
Realmente es inverosímil, como se nota que Nuestra amada Patria esta gobernada por RETARDADOS, J'AKES TARADOS e IGNORANTES que no tienen FORMACION ni CULTURA; es que no se dan cuenta que los POCOS, sí POCOS estadounidenses que van a Bolivia por lo general es para ayudar y gastar su dinero?. Quisiera decir tantas cosas pero estoy segura que caería en saco roto en sus cerebros alcoholizados -si es que tienen uno-. Realmente siento vergüenza ajena por esta manga de ............. mejor, CHAO
PD Lo que Nuestra Bolivia necesita –especialmente el pueblo- urgentemente es una Reforma Educativa capaz de sacar de la ignorancia y analfabetismo en que viene sumida la clase indígena; además de Educación y Ayuda en Control de Natalidad, ya que ni siquiera tienen para alimentar bien a UN hijo, menos para darle una MEDIANA EDUCACION y tienen arriba de TRES…………, por eso es que ahora son MAYORIA y estamos donde estamos; más denigración que esa, NO EXISTE.
Realmente es inverosímil, como se nota que Nuestra amada Patria esta gobernada por RETARDADOS, J'AKES TARADOS e IGNORANTES que no tienen FORMACION ni CULTURA; es que no se dan cuenta que los POCOS, sí POCOS estadounidenses que van a Bolivia por lo general es para ayudar y gastar su dinero?. Quisiera decir tantas cosas pero estoy segura que caería en saco roto en sus cerebros alcoholizados -si es que tienen uno-. Realmente siento vergüenza ajena por esta manga de ............. mejor, CHAO
PD. Lo que Nuestra Bolivia necesita –especialmente el pueblo- urgentemente es una Reforma Educativa capaz de sacar de la ignorancia y analfabetismo en que viene sumida la clase indígena; además de Educación y Ayuda en Control de Natalidad, ya que ni siquiera tienen para alimentar bien a UN hijo, menos para darle una MEDIANA EDUCACION y tienen arriba de TRES………… Ah! y de paso lo quieren todo gratis, mientras los “proveedores del hogar” lo poco que ganan se lo gastan en alcoholizarse, martirizar y explotar a sus familias, especialmente a los niños. Por eso es que ahora son MAYORIA y estamos donde estamos; más denigración que esa, NO EXISTE.
I'd like to add my two cents to this discussion. I'm a US citizen who was thinking about writing a dissertation on the role of campesinos in the formation of the Bolivian republic. Last year, I finally accepted the fact that I'm more of an activist than an academic, so I abandoned my studies, jumped on a plane to the Andes, and cofounded the project, Runasimipi Qespisqa Software: Proyecto para Crear Software Libre en Quechua (http://www.runasimipi.org) I am working with Peruvians and Bolivians to translate software into Quechua, create Quechua spell-checkers, and create a website to do online searches in quechua dictionaries.
Currently I'm living in Abancay, Perú, but I'm also collaborating with a couple of professores in UMSA in La Paz. For instance, I digitalized Teofilo Laime's quechua dictionary and published it in the internet. I'm planning on returning to La Paz to help Gregorio Callasaya create a spell-checker for Aymara.
Fortunately, the change in visa requirements won't affect me on this trip because I'll enter Bolivia before March, when the new rules go into effect. But for future trips, I can imagine the scene. I don't have any idea whether I will be allowed to apply for a Bolivian visa inside Peru, but many of the news articles seem to indicate that US citizens have to apply for a Bolivian visa at a Bolivian embassey inside the US. If this is the case, I will be forced to send my passport by fedex to a Bolivian embassey in the US at tremendous cost or buy a $1000 plane ticket to return to the US in person. If Bolivia implements the same visa requirements as the US, then I probably won't be able to obtain a visa anyway. I have no employment nor do I have any institutional funding--I'm spending my own savings right now, which are slowly dwindling away. I won't meet the silly requirements for a visa, so I will probably be denied. I can probably get somebody at UMSA in La Paz, and somebody at an institution in CBBA to write a letter verifying what I'm doing in Bolivia, and maybe even make up some fiction about sponsoring me, but I could still easily be denied since I don't meet the monetary requirements, etc.
I'm sure that I could eventually get into Bolivia if I really wanted to, but frankly it isn't worth the trouble. There are plenty of Quechuistas en Peru and Ecuador who are interested in our project. The next time I get invited to CBBA or Sucre, I'll probably politely decline. The next time somebody from La Paz calls me about helping them create a spell-checker for Aymara, I'll just tell them "NO".
I think this is a very practical example of what Bolivia looses by these new visa requirements. I don't think that my case is unique. I have met a number of North Americans in Bolivia who are contributing to the country in some way. For instance, a North American who wants to work on a volunteer project Latin America, will probably cross Bolivia off the list of potential destinations in the future. When I volunteered at an orphanage in Sucre, I met a number of fellow North Americans there.
Of course, turning away a few idealist North Americans is hardly the end of the world for Bolivia, and it is questionable whether most of the volunteer projects are really that helpful. We could have a number of interesting academic discussions regarding the phsycological and philosophical underpinnings of "do-gooders" and how it is just another form of dependency and even neoliberalism. More importantly, however, is the loss of sympathetic ties between Bolivia and the US. There are a small number of US citizens who care passionately about the evil things that their government does to poor countries like Bolivia. They write passionate letters to their representatives in congress. Unfortunately, there is no equivalent to the Mexican Solidarity Network for Bolivia in the US, but I know a number of people who decided to visit CBBA after the water wars out of a sense of solidarity for the people of Bolivia. A number of Americans have visited Bolivia and fallen in love with the country and its people. The fewer US citizens who visit Bolivia, the less likely that these vital ties will be formed in the future. Bolivia needs all the support it can get from inside the US. For the sake of a self-gratifying gesture, it has squandered a lot of potential good will. As a leftist who passionately supports the ideas of the MAS and the Morales government, I feel personally rejected by this action.
The strange thing is that I personally support the ideology underpinning such decisions. Bolivia should take the attitude that its development comes from within, rather than being based upon external funding, whether it be tourism, world bank loans, or investment from transnational companies. Looking at the economic statistics, I am convinced that countries which focus on self development and try to keep their best and brightest at home, are more likely to develop. Plus the ideology of self-development is very important on a cultural level. It can be argued that this action is part of a larger effort to garner greater self-respect among Bolivians. It part of the rejection of neoliberalism which encouraged Bolivians to learn English and going abroad to work. It is also part of an effort to have greater pride in self and a cultural rejuvination of indigenous languages and traditions. Part of the process of nationalization of natural resources and agrarian reform is to reject dependence on the outside. In short, implementing new visa requirements is part of a larger process which I support. It makes sense within the context of Morales' other agenda. Sadly it takes the low road in advancing that agenda, by stooping to petty games of tit-for-tat which does little to help anyone. The US government couldn't care less if its citizens visit Bolivia. In fact, cutting off US tourist dollars to Bolivia probably pleases the people in the US state department. They probably want as little contact between the US and Bolivia as possible, so they can carry out their anti-Morales agenda with a minimum of internal opposition.
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