Monday, March 26, 2007

Bolivia’s Gas Problems

Readers:

Much of the recent news in Bolivia has been about the ongoing problems of the Morales Administration is having in implementing its much-heralded “gas nationalization” decree. The musical chair dramas of coming and going government gas officials, revelations about poorly drawn contracts, and a basic lack of professional capacity at the highest levels have cast real doubt over how much Morales can really deliver on the centerpiece of his government so far.

Aaron Luoma is co-author of the chapter on gas for The Democracy Center’s forthcoming book, "Dignity and Defiance: Stories from Bolivia’s Challenge to Globalization" (University of California Press, 2008). Here he looks at the current comings and goings of Bolivian gas politics.


Readers interested can see the full collection of The Democracy Center’s briefing papers on the gas issue here. -- Jim Shultz

BOLIVIA'S GAS PROBLEMS

Last Friday, after just 14 months in office, President Evo Morales named his fourth president of Bolivia’s state oil and gas company (YPFB) in just over 14 months in office, Guillermo Aruquipa Copa. Bolivia’s oil and gas team has been a story of one turnover after another, including three heads of its regulatory agency and two energy ministers. The current minister, Carlos Villegas, submitted his resignation last month, but was talked into staying by President Morales.

This and other recent setbacks have left Bolivians questioning their government’s capacity to manage its all-important oil and gas industry.

Contract Problems

Manuel Morales Olivera (no relation to President Morales), who was replaced as YPFB president after less than two months at his post, had faced a wave of criticism over his role in the negotiating of 44 new contracts with 12 foreign oil and gas companies. After months of tense negotiations, on October 28th of last year the Bolivian government declared an important milestone in their nationalization process when the contracts were signed. The new contracts, approved by Congress on November 28, aim to give Bolivia a measure of control over its oil and gas and create higher taxes that would more than triple government revenue from those of 2004. This critical new revenue would provide Bolivia with an important source of funds to begin to address its social and development needs. But almost five months after their signing, however, the contracts are not yet in force.

Morales Olivera’s credentials had been questioned from the start. He had no previous experience in the oil and gas business before President Morales named him an advisor to YPFB’s president in January of last year. He did, however, come with significant party references - his father is a leading member of the MAS party, and his sister the director of Bolivia’s customs service. Last October opposition lawmakers accused him of favoring his father in the awarding of auditing contracts for gas fields. Then in January, over objections by critics that he was unqualified, President Morales tapped Morales Olivera to be YPFB’s president despite a YPFB statute that stipulates that the company's president should be a professional in the field, and have at least five years’ leadership experience in the energy sector.

One of Morales Olivera’s first moves as YPFB president was to suspend the implementation of the October contracts, stating that the state company was unable to “guarantee the necessary conditions for their implementation," citing transcription errors that he said did not affect the content of the contracts. On February 12th the Morales administration proposed an amendment to Congress to correct errors in 15 of the 44 contracts. The amendment is being held up by the opposition-controlled Senate that says there are both errors of ‘form’ and ‘substance’ in the contracts, and the impasse can only be overcome by passage of further legislation. The Senate is currently holding public hearings to review the contracts, saying they will take all the time they need to review in detail all the contracts and their annexes.

Secret Side Deals and Havana Nights

Issues of contention in the October contracts include errors such as incorrect company names and locations of gas and oil fields, and also more serious issues that would affect government revenues such as what company expenses are deductible. In grueling Senate testimony this past week, both Minister Villegas and ex-YPFB president Juan Carlos Ortiz said they were unaware that Morales Olivera, chosen by the Morales administration to head Bolivia’s negotiating team during the October contract talks, had made a verbal side agreement with Petrobras (Brazil’s state-private oil and gas company) in the final moments of negotiations.

The agreement Morales Olivera made was to “soften,” in the week after the contracts were signed, an annex that concerns what expenses by Petrobras are eligible for tax deductions. Morales Olivera, in his defense, said both Villegas and Ortiz were present when the decision was made to negotiate a different version of the annex. Earlier this month Morales Olivera blamed errors in new contracts on the company’s disadvantage in complex negotiations with foreign oil and gas companies: “on one side of the negotiating table sat professionals with 30 years of experience [in oil and gas], and on our side, people just 30 years old.”

Perhaps the final blow for Morales Olivera was the appearance in national media of a series of photographs taken last December showing him and his negotiating team of young professionals, who call themselves the ‘rug rats,’ enjoying the beaches and nightlife of Havana, Cuba. They had just completed a training seminar at a cost to Bolivian taxpayers of over $40,000. Vice President Garcia Linera has asked YPFB to justify these expenses.

What’s Next?

Upon taking office, the new president of YPFB, Guillermo Aruquipa Copa, former vice minister of oil and gas exploration, warned that any further delay in the application of the new contracts could have grave consequences for the country. He asked that the corrected contracts be approved this week. But getting the contracts through the Senate is no sure thing this time around.

On Thursday opposition party members and Evo Morales’ former first energy minister, Andres Soliz Rada, called for negotiations of contracts to start over, stating they were invalid. Roughly $4 billion in investments are pending, much of which will go to meet a quadrupling in gas export demand from Argentina, which are estimated to raise government oil and gas revenues to nearly $2.5 billion by 2010. It also delays the administration’s nationalization process, chiefly the buying back of a controlling interest in the five public-private capitalized companies involved in exploration, development, refining and distribution that used to make up YPFB - as mandated by the May 1 decree of last year.

A Democracy Center source within YPFB said that the refineries would likely revert to YPFB control, along with accompanying fuel distribution duties, this May. If recent history is any guide, however, that timeline may be overly optimistic. Critics say the government is asking YFPB to move faster than it can - that the operating funds and technical capacity are not in place yet to be able to operate efficiently in and oversee Bolivia’s oil and gas industry. Fuel shortages in the domestic market and a lack of spending on social needs and infrastructure, despite windfalls in oil and gas revenues, have also lead to continuing frustrations among the Bolivian people.

Minister Villegas claims the new contracts will net Bolivia $82 billion in revenue in the next 25 years. But implementing the government’s nationalization policy that would turn this potential into reality is no easy task. "We’ve got to turn a ministry that before only served to sign papers into a body that can design energy policy," explains Villegas. "We've got to turn a state company used to only rubber-stamped contracts into the main operator of a huge industry." To date, Bolivia’s lack of capacity has become the main impediment to real change.

In testimony before the Senate last week, former YPFB president Ortiz said the motive for his January resignation was the constant destabilization and sabotage carried out by government officials who started an “information war” against him after he called attention to the errors in the October contracts. Such in-fighting does not bode well for YPFB’s prospects of building a cohesive oil and gas management team that is fully capable of leading the development of Bolivia’s oil and gas resources.

Written by Aaron Luoma

72 Comments:

Anonymous Buffy said...

There you go. All the naysayers that contend that the Democracy Center (i.e., Jim Schultz) is a spokesperson for the Morales government have been proven to be wrong. Jim sees it as it is, albeit from a left-of-center viewpoint.

9:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You gotta give credit to Jimbo por posting this one (there's absolutely no way to defend Morales' government with this one), although it must have been as pleasant as going through a root canal without anesthesia.

Hope it's a wake up call for him.

8:23 AM  
Anonymous Camba Alzado said...

Ja, ja, ja, ja, ja ,ja, ja, ja, ja, …….ej ej ej ej. ……..ja, ja, ja, ja, ja ,ja, ja, ja ,ja ,ja ,a,a,a,aaaaaa ……..sick!!; Buffy, you’re so funny, this is just simple called an intent of damage control, on the DC’s part; for hiding behind silly post when the MAS debacle began. I guess Jim was stupid enough to believe that we “only” get information of Bolivia from his post, ABI or indymedia; and now he needs to get some credibility back.

This post says nothing out of the ordinary that anybody that cares about Bolivia don’t already know, except for the taking over of the refineries by YPFB; but we are not as well “connected” to the present government as the DC is, I guess sometimes is nice to be an appendix of the current regime.

I will suggest to Aaron to add in his chapter that the contracts passed congress last November 2006 after, in the best old fashion Bolivian politics, the MAS party bought up two back up senators from the opposition and installed a senate deliberation over night and without calling the opposition. That night they signed a bunch of laws, among them the 44 contracts; nobody even read them contracts, much less review if they were good for the country. Maybe Aaron can go back to his “sources” in the government and tell as for how much money those legislators sold their country.

The above was not mentioned because Aaron, and the DC, want to blame the Gas Contracts fiasco to a reduce number of persons and to Manuel Morales in particularly; the same political strategy that MAS is using, and Buffy the vampire hunter should wander why?. But, in reality, the whole MAS party’s elite were profoundly involved in this issue, starting with VP Lineras and Evo himself. The whole MAS senate was a part of it in November 2006 and so their members in the lower chamber. All off them were and continue being part of the gas problem. As a matter of fact, if not for the opposition in the senate, those contracts would be approved without review again like it happened in the lower chamber. I expect for all does contracts to go back to the lower chamber and Evo and company to have a tantrum about it, even if they don’t deserve to whine about nothing at the present moment.

8:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buffy IS being silly and this article actually IS MAZI propaganda. One notable ommision is the whole atitude of the MAS goverment took last week on this contracts issue. Just like Bush, they argued that the contract were a matter of state security (and the intellectual property on MAS) and therefore the public had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT in knowing what's on them.

Before Jim can be described as a defender of democracy and moral person, a few topics that need to be addressed include:

1) Attacks on free media by MAS: Not only against Unitel, La Razon, El Diario, but his attempt to nationalize them and MAS leaders openly calling for violence.

2) Union practices - The poor FORCED to join unions to pay OBSCENE salaries to CORRUPT career politicians with no trade experience. Let's have the DC do a short article of the beatings and loss of property simple farmers/Alten~os face lest they march against whatever the political ambitions of their leader dictates. FEJUVES and other "Social Movements" are not really so. They are criminal organizations who bully the poor into joining, into marching, and into giving up their equity if they don't play along.

3) Human rights violations during protests - Does Jim believe that pregnant women, sick children, old men and women have no right to free transit, food, shelter, and work?

4) Corruption, Corruption, Corruption- Three times because of YPFB, Avales politicos, and MASSIVE firings of career profesionals. MAS is doing a great disservice by undoing the "institunalization" which was actually a good and DEMOCRATIC measure that was worth supporting.

5) Definition of "cazabobo" - Will Jim ever let his audience know what this term means? Of course not. Not in a million years. He'll defend vandals who where looting stores and holding a city hostage without food, water, electricity. Jim&Co will call this criminals "Democracy Heroes." But he won't even acknowledge the dozens of patriotic soldiers tortured, mutilated, and killed in the most inhuman ways, some have been tortured far beyond anything seen in Guatanamo or the Sunni Triangle by Evo Morales and other MAS Senators.



We can come up with 94 other examples of GROSS violations of laws, human dignity, and basic democratic principles that are not covered in this blog.

If this blog was called "my view from the left" or the DC was instead called "The Center for Bulding a Racist-Marxist Regime" then I would not be commenting here for at least readers would have some truth in labelling.

But that is not the case. Jim gets money, volunteers (funny he gets a FAT salary and ask starving college students to volunteer for free) under FALSE pretenses. This is a HUGE deal and it is up to us to let the world know what the true agenda of this center is.

9:33 AM  
Anonymous una bolivianita said...

Evo has as much responsability as goni did with the contracts... why hasn't the opposition pointed this out???

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buffy,

Jim's a communist and you are just naive!

Jim did not even write that stuff and probably does not even believe it.

Haven't you learned by now that there is very little that resembles Democracy that comes out of the Democracy center?

It is a shame that Jim simply can't be honest about things. Even where he stands.

3:18 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

Schultz has been pimping his outdated and idiotic ideas in Bolivia, because anywhere else he would not be taken seriously.
He has been a relentless cheerleader for everything the destructive left has been doing in Bolivia the past 8 or so years, and harshly propagandizing the MAS party line against everyone who was not MAS. Lets hide the fact that Evos power base comes from those who grow the raw materials which directly fuels drug cartels. It is ok that Evo licks Castro's boots while Tuto being Banzers VP was crime by association. Goni was a murderer, while Evo who spurred on the violent protests that caused the reaction, was simply representing the people.
In the same vein, a dude with 0 business knowledge was free to mock Tuto Quiroga, because he read recent business books. And our oil and gas expert also said that selling 50% of YFPB was sold at a "bargain" price" to foreign interests....Keeping the other half in Bolivian pensioners names was bad, because it was kept "by private banks". And because he received wisdom from his plumber, Schultz seemed to assure us that nationalization was all right.

Hey in the stupid left, all you need to do is have the people through the right people be in control of the resources and it will be all right.

Well the chickens came home to roost.

2:47 PM  
Anonymous Camba Chata said...

While I am not a fan of the recently added images, I do like this one of the known restaurant logo, full of gas seltzer pill.

It seems it has also fueled lots of gas-filled comments by your devoted critics. As I indulge in a cursory peek to see if any one has added reason, I find the same echoing of the "Cold-War Leftist Boogey-Men" summarized Former U.S. Intelligence Chief John Negroponte turned Deputy at the State Department, when he said that democracy is "at risk" in Bolivia.

"WORSE THAN GUANTANAMO"....Ppppplease. I am not surprised by the former power holders and their apologists screaming blooddy desperation as they see their priviledges eroded with the changes the new Bolivia is pushing ahead. The other Bolivians, that large boisterous majority who went to the polls on December 2005 did bet on changes such as- invest in the poor, in education, finish the land redistribution never achieved fully in 1952, increase health services, and other measures to increase human capital. Do this by increasing natural resource revenues and decreasing politicians fat salaries and unecessary expenditures. Establish checks to weed out the endemic institutionalized corruption. They did not succeed yet, it has been 14 months in office, many public sector enclaves still have the foxes holding the key to the hen houses and yes, there are many new dubious characters engaging in nefarious practices. Mistakes continue to be made, yes! Who said the Morales government would be perfect? Are solutions forthcoming, when and how? The answers to that is what will define a truly participative democracy success.

Now, looking back; were the previous government bureaucrats (including those fired and those still at their posts) competent and efficient? Were previous nepotism links major news on the television screens? Is it widely known that Goni's daughter was a key figure at the Ministry for Sustainable Development? Or that Tuto Quiroga's brother was another key figure at the Ministry of Government during his adnministration?

This Bolivian is not convinced by the pseudo moral outrage and finger pointing of the cleptocrats of the past. And yes, the new Bolivia will have to show it means business and weed out the bad, be it incompets or those engaging in illegal acts.

And speaking of illegal acts, Bolivian Beauty Queens are touted to represent the best of Bolivia, but once again, Ex-Miss Bolivia, Sonia Montero de Falcone has reminded us humans are not perfect and some of them don't even approximate their own best.

Scottsdale Tribune reported a few days ago "Sonia Falcone, of Paradise Valley, Arizona, pleaded guilty Wednesday to hiring undocumented workers and agreed to voluntarily remove herself from the country by Aug. 15, 2007." Seems this is actually a plea bargain since she was also accused of engaging in a fraudulet marriage to obtain her own US citizenship. If she were convicted for that, it means prison time.

Maybe Sonia is an honest person just helping others to get legal in the USA, as some of our Bolivian press seems to imply or maybe she is just a wanna be socialite throwing the occasional Celebrity Birthday Party for Shakira (FEB 2003) www.orangelotus.com/resume.htm

Apparently Sonia had some political ambitions as she established Latinos Unidos, a national organization to well "Unite Latinos"

Well, she will have another day in court in July and she is probably hoping her financial investment in the Republican Party will somehow pay dividends. Turns out Sonia Falcone through her Montero Foundation made a controversial $100,000 donation to the Republican Party during the 2000 presidential campaign. How does she have so many dollars to throw around you ask? Maybe from her Beauty Products company or perhaps more likely from her 2nd marriage to an arms dealer. http://www.inthesetimes.com/issue/26/04/feature4.shtml

Her French-Brazilian husband Pierre Falcone is/was involved in an international scandal coined Angolagate implicating Bush. This just adds to the many reasons to impeach Bush and is of interest to Bolivians as it ricochets our bella compatriota.
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=2576

5:05 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

I am not surprised by the former power holders and their apologists screaming blooddy desperation as they see their priviledges eroded with the changes the new Bolivia is pushing ahead. The other Bolivians, that large boisterous majority who went to the polls on December 2005 did bet on changes such as- invest in the poor, in education, finish the land redistribution never achieved fully in 1952, increase health services, and other measures to increase human capital. Do this by increasing natural resource revenues and decreasing politicians fat salaries and unecessary expenditures. Establish checks to weed out the endemic institutionalized corruption. They did not succeed yet, it has been 14 months in office, many public sector enclaves still have the foxes holding the key to the hen houses and yes, there are many new dubious characters engaging in nefarious practices. Mistakes continue to be made, yes! Who said the Morales government would be perfect? Are solutions forthcoming, when and how? The answers to that is what will define a truly participative democracy success.


GMAFB...What a bunch of hogwash. What is even worse than the previous corrupt, kleptocratic practices of past governments is the corruption and kleptocratic practices of the current government added with its infantile ideology, and incompetent administration. For all the thievery of Goni, Tuto, Paz Zamora, and Banzers administrations at least they placed some competent and educated people within the usual crew of political hacks. The MAS government on the other hand is a collection of inexperienced ideologues and just plain incompetents. No secret there, you just needed to watch their parliamentary delegations, some of which had basic literacy issues. Leadership that puts someone without a law (or college) degree at the head of the Ministry of Justice is just asking for trouble.

To begin with, any plan that starts with the premise that throwing money at problems and making the state run the economy, is bound to fail. Having idiots run it is a sure recipe for disaster.

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A question to the poster above:

"For all the thievery of Goni, Tuto, Paz Zamora, and Banzers administrations at least they placed some competent and educated people within the usual crew of political hacks."

What precisely did these people do that was so especially competent?

Thanks.

10:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And once again an article, on a business issue to boot, gets us all camped up on our own political bank, firing away at the other side…

So I’ll try something truly wild & try to get this gas issue into focus away from the various political dogma, if possible.

1. The key point in the gas contracts dust-storm is the Annex D in the contracts. Annex D being a clause specifying what the gas companies can qualify as being tax-deductible. I haven’t seen it & would appreciate who can shed some light on what it says, what types of tax deductions it contemplates. Going by the little that’s been said in the press as to HOW MUCH the extra tax deductions granted to Petrobras under a softer version of an Annex D negotiated separately with them amount to – and it’s this that is at the heart of the whole issue guys – it doesn’t actually seem such a big deal really.

According to El Deber yesterday it amounted to US$6 million (for the San Alberto & San Antonio gasfields which are by all accounts by far their largest).

http://www.eldeber.com.bo/2007/2007-03-27/vernotanacional.php?id=920

Which, on an annual gas turnover of say US$2 billion, works out at 0,3%.

If that’s right guys it means that a lot of the fuss that’s being kicked up now is about YPFB granting a discount to Petrobras, the most important foreign gas operator in the country, that amounts to 0,3% of what Bolivia is now taking in from its gas. Hardly scandalous. And bearing in mind the gas income now is not far short of 10 times what it was before, well it’s like if your kid always used to get 10% in his school exams, he suddenly jumped to 100%, then dipped to 99,7% and you whack him over the head for it…

If someone has some different facts & numbers to the above I’d welcome them, it’s hard to believe there’s such a fuss about so little a deal...??

2. Other criticisms about the operation, as well as the running of the gas sector in general are more credible though, I agree on this. The musical chairs with 4 YPFB Presidents & 2 energy ministers in a year or so is not exactly stabilising, or a confidence-grower. The whole handling of the contract re-negotiations, the separate side deal with Petrobras that didn’t come out until the last few days, the attempted cover-up of this, erm things were done a bit sloppily & could have been done much better.

But let me play devil’s advocate for a moment, & see if this helps focus things better:

a. a slighty softer deal for Petrobras, who are the biggest gas operator in Bolivia, shouldn’t sound so strange. The bigger & more important your customer is, the better deal he should normally get, or not? Normal business one could say…

b. the contracts are there, all the companies have signed them, & despite the much better conditions for the Bolivian people, no company has decided to abandon Bolivia, this surely is the most important factor to bear in mind.

c. the whole thing was done rather quickly, which given the lack of experience in doing this before in Bolivia, the political hands that were never far & sometimes right in the thick of the negotiations, not making things easier for the real gas professionals at the negotiating table, is a fairly remarkable feat in itself. But political hands are never far away from any business so important to a country. And perhaps rightly so. You gotta make sure your resources are being handled wisely, & like it or not, the bottom line is that Bolivia is getting much more now from its gas than before.

d. there is no evidence of any corruption by Manuel Morales Olivera or anyone else. If there was anything found out you can be sure the opposition would have made that well-known to everyone...

3. Camba Alzado actually made a valid point about the way the government tried to sneak the contracts passed through the Senate late one night. That was wrong, in that something as important as this, contracts which mean so much money to Bolivia, should have been discussed openly in Parliament, & examined with the opposition too, & any changes in the deals signed duly notified & made known to them & the public. One thing though CA, there’s nothing wrong at all with making deals with other parties in the Senate or anywhere else in Parliament, it’s part of a normal parliamentary process. And don’t forget that the reason that MAS don’t have a majority in the Senate is due to the fact that all 9 departments get 3 senators (so yes Pando’s 40.000 inhabitants each count 50 times more than say La Paz’s 2 million….), an anomaly in itself one could say, that certainly favours the opposition & makes deals with other parties inevitable just for passing ordinary legislation.

4. I’m not sure I agree entirely with Anon 9,33’s claim that the government tried to make the details of the contract a state secret. Yes, I know it’s what some of the opposition were saying. But my understanding of what actually occurred was that YPFB said that the formula for calculating how much Bolivia gets for its gas is confidential & should not be made public, hence would be opened up to the opposition behind closed doors, in a Senate committee away from the public eye. Why Anon? Not to hide anything from the public, but from the gas operators! Nothing weird about this, no company divulges this type of info to the market, to its customers…how much it earns from each one…

5. Boli-Nica made a reasonable point reminding us that the privatisation of YPFB helped finance the starting up Bolivia’s pension scheme. But Boli-Nica, correct me if I’m wrong, the money for the scheme was meant to come from the additional gas revenue. Which never came. So, even if the theory was a good one, it didn’t work out. The Dollars & Sense article explained that fairly well I thought..

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2006/1106luomagordon.html

6. All told then, political rhetoric aside, my personal reading from the few facts that emerge, is that this whole issue has been kicked up into a dust-storm bigger than it probably is.

Yes, the affair has been managed sloppily. Yes, changing the heads in charge every couple of months hasn’t helped. Bringing in non-professionals to negotiate the deals does not make things easier. But guys, I don’t think anyone will argue that YFPB has ever been on the Top 10 list of “best-managed companies in the world”. That it has suddenly slipped to 5000th in the rankings. Is it being managed worse now than before? I don’t know, I don’t think it’s possible for anyone who isn’t working there now in YPFB & hasn’t been there for say at least 15 years to pass judgement on this. What is clear though is that the results Bolivia’s getting from its gas are way better than before. If that’s being done more DESPITE YPFB’s management rather than THANKS TO YPFB well it’s possible but personally I’d leave that to those in the know about this to say so.

7. I think we should be careful about being too overly-critical, especially without the evidence, of Bolivia’s gas management. If simply because the gas is a key part of Bolivia’s income, its wealth. Whichever side of the political or social spectrum you belong to, it’s this money that’s going to pay for Bolivia’s roads, bridges & factories, schools, hospitals & utilities for the poor. It’s this money that is going to finance Bolivia’s future, your future. And for the time being guys we should be rightly much more optimistic than we ever were before. The money’s rolling in, take come confidence from that…

8. Like I said on another post recently, I think the biggest qualm we should have about the government’s handling of the gas business, & the economy in general, is the lack of spending of the fruits it’s giving the country. I know, early days yet, but at some point this question becomes pertinent. Why aren’t you Evo spending the gas money, building the roads & bridges? Investing in the economy, getting the country off its feet? Building things that people can see with their own eyes every day… tangible results of the extra wealth that’s coming into the country..

OK, you’ve halved the debt, & got a budget surplus for the first time in 40 years, these are economic indicators for Bolivia that have not been seen before. Great. But at some point or other people will want to see the results of this work, in the streets & cities, in the mountains, valleys & tropico, not just in some economist’s tables or graphs.

This my friends is where our attention should be…

Jack

8:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually jack, i have different numbers to yours, only the royalties were assured... the contracts were plainly political... bolivians were cheated by their government once more. Nothing had changed since the referendum law... AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY LIED TO US!!!

9:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 9.30, i'm not with you buddy. What are the different numbers you have? Who's lying, & about what exactly? Jack

9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jack...do you know it? I'm just gonna reply to the point you made specific to my post and your conclusion. I leave to others to reply for themselves your other points.


"in a Senate committee away from the public eye. Why Anon? Not to hide anything from the public, but from the gas operators! Nothing weird about this, no company divulges this type of info to the market, to its customers…how much it earns from each one…"

I think this might be true in a PRIVATE enterprise, but a public one has to be transparent. The formulas for the much hated previous contracts were public and in the public domain. I really believe that if you read what you wrote again you would also admit that you made a mistake. We are not talking about Coke's formula or the KFC recepie here. Simply how the price is determined and the tax charged. If Repsol knows what kind of deal Petrobras is getting, all the better. Rules in a market place cannot be secret.


"Like I said on another post recently, I think the biggest qualm we should have about the government’s handling of the gas business, & the economy in general, is the lack of spending of the fruits it’s giving the country. I know, early days yet, but at some point this question becomes pertinent. Why aren’t you Evo spending the gas money, building the roads & bridges? Investing in the economy, getting the country off its feet? Building things that people can see with their own eyes every day… tangible results of the extra wealth that’s coming into the country.."

I also wholeheartedly dissagree with you here. You are calling for a populist regime which will result only in inflation. If YPFB is to be a world class company it should be allowed to pay no taxes and re-invest all profits into itself. What you are calling for is to kill the chicken that lays the golden eggs. The much hated privatization and neoliberal regime resulted in the discovery of enourmous gas reserves. These discoveries were not cheap, but required billions of dollars of investment. A little known fact is that only 5% of the territory with potential has been explored, and only 2-3% of the total territory. What is your call? kill the chiken or let it lay some more eggs? Sure, we need social spending, but the root of all problems is DEFINATELY not money.

10:52 AM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

In response to questioner who asked about what good previous administrators of YPFB had done, I would simply add that getting the Brazilian government and international development agencies to put up money and to pay for the gasoduct, the infraestructure needed to export gas, and the increase in exploration that increased proven gas reserves greatly. That was a feat in of itself, since Bolivia after the 80's had no credit and a horrible standing. It was the doing of three governments.

If anyone should be thanked for the surpluses now, it should be previous rulers including Goni, who took spending under control, and anticipated receiving revenues not only from the Brazil and Argentina deals, but also from the LNG project through Chile.


This government could barely handle the re-negotiations. They did not even have boiler-plate versions of contracts, despite the so-called "Venezuelan advisors".

12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boli-Nica

You also have to include the fact tha Evo's lucky timing. Not so long ago, Natural Gas' value was so low that it was usually burnt off or vented. We are in a natural resource boom. Evo has done very little indeed in regards to the current status of the economy. Actually, he did everything in his power to weaken it via bloqueos and what not. I guess we can add that to the list of accomplishments, that these presidents were able to maintain the country united despite Evo.

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Bolivia Libre said...

Jack, please read this link to a Los Tiempos report over the declarations of the “transnational’s managers” in front of the senate, I doubt they will lie under oath in a foreign country. It is not too specific but it will give you a clear idea of the extent of the regimes decisiveness towards their people, us:
http://www.lostiempos.com/noticias/27-03-07/27_03_07_ultimas_nac6.php

I do not know where you are, but you have it completely wrong about what Camba implied about the two senators from PODEMOS that facilitate the Mazists to approve these contracts without revision in November 2006. There was no political deal like you believe, these two persons were back-up senators, they were bought up money wise and one of them has officially passed to the MAS party. This is definitively not a normal parliamentary process. It is a practice Evo said was not going to use, among several other, and he and his party did not comply, among several other lies.

I think you are way to naïve trying to see this issue as only a business without taking in account the political side. That is why you mumble about this gas deal being a great deal for the country and that we are making a lot of unnecessary noise about it. It is like saying to the senators from PODEMOS, hey, why are you them contracts, they give Bolivians the same amount your presidential candidate said we would be able to get?. No Jack, the thing is very much political and above all moral.

We have a MAS party that said during elections that they will kick out the foreign oil companies. Then in power, and needing votes for his constituents they used the gas issue to perjure again, plus organized a military show while recognizing, like if they didn’t know before the elections, that they could not kick out the foreign companies. Instead, the Mazists promised to get 80 something percent of the gains for the country, another lie kept until the senate stopped them this month. You want no to make a big political deal with the contracts, but they are almost all political.

I was surprised to read you asking about that the additional revenues from gas revenue were not getting to the country until I enter to the link you provided; Jack, please, let’s get real. It is an article of the Democracy Center; and you are telling us you do NOT want to make this thing political? Come on, define yourself.

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Blogger Boli-Nica said...

The political part of this whole mess is not unexpected.

Trips to Cuba, selling of jobs jobs, and the opposition holding things up, is part and parcel of Bolivian political life. If you do stuff like take junkets abroad and dont cover up your tracks, the opposition is going to make you pay.

Then you have the clauses in the contracts. Everyone knows that the nationalization decree went over the taxation set out in the earlier referendum and law. The companies resigned themselves to pay so much taxes, when Evo hit them with the decree. I have little doubt that the magic clauses were ordered from higher up (read Evo) and were probably the result of negotiations at the higher level b/ween Brazil and Bolivia. In the end, Evo expected the adulation of the public by his hard line, and appeasing the oil companies by in fact going back to the earlier rates.

The worst of this whole mess, was not what was done, it is the pattern of incompetence and idiocity exposed behind all this.

3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jack, you credit the Morales administration far more than it deserves. Most of the “accomplishments” you mention in the gas issue have been obtained mainly because of two factors:

1) The current extremely high prices of oil and gas have allowed the companies to accept the new terms of the contracts. The 650% price increase of oil since the contracts were originally negotiated leaves enough space for practically anything but does it guarantee the millions of $$ in new investments needed to find new gas reserves?
2) The weak international position of Bolivia doesn’t allow the companies any other type of legal strategy (international arbitration, etc) because there are simply no assets to seize anywhere in the world. It is a take it or leave it situation.

The bottom line is that nobody discusses the fact that this government’s bureaucrats and ministers are simply incompetent. Considering what has happened with the “negotiation” of the gas contracts one has to wonder what nasty result will come out of the CA in such sensitive issues like education and justice.

For example, I am very worried for Jim. Can you imagine if one day he walks out of his office and finds a mob of 50 “cochalas” ready to apply “justicia comunitaria” and lynch him right then and there because someone that has a little feud with him over that nice parking spot under the shade (or for whatever reason) just yells “kill the Yankee gringo explotador”.. Be careful with what you support…. Little Frankenstein just might turn out to be un-controllable.

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Blogger Boli-Nica said...


5. Boli-Nica made a reasonable point reminding us that the privatisation of YPFB helped finance the starting up Bolivia’s pension scheme. But Boli-Nica, correct me if I’m wrong, the money for the scheme was meant to come from the additional gas revenue. Which never came. So, even if the theory was a good one, it didn’t work out. The Dollars & Sense article explained that fairly well I thought..


Ok., so your information comes from the same propagandists who put out this page.

The article in question makes dubious assertions, citing as evidence either distortions, mis-statements or bald lies. Fact is that capitalization brought several billion dollars in investment in the oil and gas sector. Bolivia's proven gas reserves went up almost ten-fold after this round of investment. Revenue was up and down due to the prices of gas and oil in the 90's and early part of this decade. Revenues began slowly increasing as more gas fields went on-line. Bolivian pensionholders not only have an ownership stake in the whole thing, they also have a stake in the Brazilian side from the way the contracts were structured.

Dividends were paid into the pension system by the companies.

Bolivian-style capitalization may be hated by ideologues, but it was an innovative plan, that is being emulated in former communist countries.

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Briefly, on the various questions…

Anon 10,52 – I stand by my claim on the keeping the details of the gas formulae away from the public (read gas operators). The fact that YPFB is a public rather than private company makes no difference Anon. Because the point is that NO company divulges how much they earn from each of their customers. Taking your Coca Cola example, do they divulge how much they charge Walmart, other retail chains, bars, restaurants etc, the discounts they give, the recuperable marketing expenses, the contributions for the vending machines, the soda taps etc? Ofcourse not. With the gas it’s the same buddy, every gas field is different, the amount of gas there is, how much it costs to get out, the stage of maturity it’s in, whether it’s linked to pipes or not etc etc. And the gas operators can have different priorities & interests too. I don’t know if you have any sales or business experience, if you do then you’ll understand immediately golden rule number 1 is you never discuss details of your business transactions with your other customers. It’s a sure loser buddy & they don’t need to know this - their job is simply to get the best deal for themselves, based on their own priorities & interests.

On your chicken & egg economic policy suggestion allow me to be brutally honest, it sounds like you’re suggesting the chicken should eat all its own eggs & no-one else even the whiff of a yolk.. Wow! I’m not sure anyone with any sense will follow you on that one, that the income from Bolivia’s gas should be entirely reinvested in YPFB, that nothing goes to Bolivia’s development. You’re right ofcourse something needs to be reinvested for further exploration & production, but if there’s gas already for 200 years say, it probably doesn’t have to be that much Anon, & personally I’d leave that to YPFB to decide how much, giving them the necessary funding for these projects… but probably not the whole shebang, isn’t 20 to 30% of GDP a touch excessive?!?

BL – I never said the gas business was not political actually. Ofcourse it is – anything so important to a country will naturally be so & I think I said that too. What I was trying to do was look at the issue with less poltical & more business lenses, if possible. Define myself? That’s simple & I already said that before BL, I’m just someone that hopes for the best for Bolivia, & is willing to listen to anyone with something useful to say as to how this could be achieved. Yes, I do listen to the DC too BL, if I didn’t it would be daft for me to visit this site don’t you think? As I’m sure they’re not infallible, & yes do have a certain angle on things, I’m quite happy to read any other sources with different versions of events. That could be different to be willing to rely entirely on a barrage of unqualified comments, particularly if they come from people who from the way they write appear to have at least as strong a political slant as the DC, if just in the other direction… Anyhow, send me a good link on the history of the gas business in Bolivia & I’ll read up on it for sure.

Anon 3,52 – I wasn’t crediting Morales for everything & agree he’s “lucky” to come in at a time of high gas prices. But, as I’ve said before, when the prices are high it’s all the more crucial you make sure you get a good cut on the deals. And on this at least he’s on a winning line, isn’t some credit due for that? Your other point – the legal alternatives – is not very pertinent buddy, there’s another option they could take, simply to pull out & “cut their losses”. They’re not though, maybe because they know there’s no losses to cut & instead plenty of money already made & still to be made… Nothing wrong with that, would be silly to get out now then wouldn’t it? On the concern about incompetence in YPFB I agree & am concerned about this too Anon. But it’s difficult to judge this from the outside Anon. Incidentally, I note that the DC has expressed this same concern about YPFB & also the water companies, so yes you’re not alone & maybe there is reason for concern. But why always look at the downside & only the downside when there’s an upside too (much more revenue coming in now)… let’s not kill the goose of the golden eggs simply with our disaster-stories..

Boli-Nica – you seem to know about things, I’d be interested to hear more of your views. Send me a link with your version of events by all means. To take you up on a couple of your points in the meantime… Yes it’s true that foreign investment flowed in with the capitalization of Bolivia’s gas BN. But that’s hardly suprising, you give these guys 50% on a silver plate & charge only 20% from what they pipe out, who wouldn’t invest in that? No-one doubts BN that the investment came in, the question is whether the terms of the deal were in Bolivia’s best interests… couldn’t they have been just slightly better? The other point BN is that the foreign companies didn’t invest in what was most needed by Bolivia. Basically they invested just in getting the gas out & piping it out raw to Brazil etc. Two big holes BN. First, no-one invested in a gas distribution network in Bolivia, so you have a country that is sitting on a whole bunch of gas, but there’s no network to process & distribute it to Bolivian businesses & households.. Crazy! Second, the pipes to Brazil were simply to export the raw gas there as it is. It would only get processed & industrialized abroad BN. Same neverending sad story of wasting the potential of Bolivia’s resources buddy. Stuck with only exporting raw materials, no industrialization in Bolivia, nothing which to grow from or develop further in future, not to mention another whammy, the already poor cut you’re getting is on the raw gas, much lower than what you can get if you’re exporting methane, propane, butane, plastics, fertilizers – some of the wonderful & much more profitable things you can get out of raw gas…

And no Boli-Nica it’s not only the DC that has this view, have a look around & I think you’ll find there’s a near-universal agreement that Bolivia got a sore deal on its gas before.

Jack

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Blogger Boli-Nica said...

Dude is the garbage on zapatista-watch the best you can
come up with?


"Yes it’s true that foreign investment flowed in with the capitalization of Bolivia’s gas BN."" But that’s hardly suprising, you give these guys 50% on a silver plate & charge only 20% from what they pipe out, who wouldn’t invest in that?"

LMAO, that is funny......

So you are saying the Brazilian governments decision to lean on Petrobras to get (and guarantee) funding from the IDB and other Multilateral Lending Agencies of this project based on Bolivia's favorable rate of taxation on the gas....

Brazilians musta known they would rake it in were raking it in, when they signed contracts guaranteeing payment for a minimum amount of gas, even if the demand was not there.

They mos/def knew they were raking the Bolivians over the coals when they agreed to pay in Dollars. Hey even with devaluations it must have been so much of a bargain, right?


Get a clue dude, just so you can see how volatile this whole thing is. When the big contract with Petrobras was signed was largely seen as unfavorahble to Brazil, because they didn't even have guaranteed contracts with buyers on the Brazilian end for the amount contracted for. When the currency went to hell, the thing was running at half capacity, and it was a huge drain.

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