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Attention to Bolivia in the international media always tends to come in waves, most often based on when political tensions erupt in the country. This weekend’s rival rallies in La Paz (celebrating the new MAS-backed Constitution) and in Santa Cruz (promoting the region’s declaration of autonomy) drew a flurry of foreign media coverage, from the New York Times, Financial Times, Loa Angeles Times and others. Readers interested in looking at this coverage can find a list of the articles and links to them here.This morning I did a brief interview with Amy Goodman on the news program Democracy Now regarding recent events here. For those interested in hearing it, go to the link here. The Bolivia segment starts at the 30-minute mark.
posted by The Democracy Center at 11:49 AM
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where can i buy evo's poncho,and how many cambar are death? i want then dead
Hey anonymous coca -spitting colla:
Why don´t you learn how to write English first before insulting us law abiding cambas. You can shove
Evo's poncho up your you know what.
Can someone without hatred attempt to explain to me the racism that seems to go both ways between camba and colla? I know Bolivians from both groups and understand some of the differences, but I don't understand the hatred.
Is it because humans love to think themselves better than others so regardless of the situation they will find someone to hate?
It doesn't seem like the belligerents from either side really want a solution, they just want to protect what is theirs at the expense of the good of both groups.
The eye-for-an-eye attitude is sad. I love your country and the people of Bolivia and hope that the hate will not destroy it.
Perhaps if enough can express love and compassion even for those who hate, a true solution will come.
The camba uprise fell short once and for all, they wanted blood and large ratings but they got nothing, just empty hands. Why is that? A day before the camba media was counting the deads by the hundreds and they're leaders were mennassing the government, but the Media Luna day came and ..... nothing. But why? could it be that it was just a fabrication of their prolific minds or just a mass media delirium. Maybe, the media luna's leaders don't have real support, the support you need to start an uprise in the beautiful BOLIVIA; not even they're media lies or the US support will change that. So long Media Luna welcome change.
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Quite clearly the confrontation is not the simplistic Camba vs. Colla or Greenwhites vs. Redyellowgrees.
There are approx. 36 indigenous nations representing an enourmous biodiversity both physical-cultural and linguistic. Plus there is a considerable percentage of poor mixed ethnicity and even white workers. The poorest of the poor remain the officially yet unrecognized Afro-bolivians. These are the people along with the middle classes who are likely to benefit from the Draft Constitution.
On the other side, or more accurately at the peak of this pyramid are about 13 families who have acquired enormous lands, (I mean BIG--you can't even see the borders by flying over them) well through less than "honest" means, many through participation on the previous corrupt and even de facto governments. With that land, there were able to get credits $$$ later pardoned and they have diversed their investments and are now owners of most of the media, press and TV plus private banking, etc. THESE Kuljis, Costas, Pinckerts, Marinkovichs, Abdoubs, Kempffs, Monastaerios, Riveros etc are the MOST likely to loose from the Draft Constitution as one of the articles is the investigation and dispossetion of "illegally acquired land."
But alas, the power of media to manipulate and distort massively is omnipresent and as such, also major ammo in Bolivia. So confusion, lies, innuendos and distortions become simplistically configured in a "good guys vs. bad guys" scenario.
MGP:
You´re a funny guy. I love your shtick...especially about Eva Golinger. Thanks dude you made me laugh, and keep drinking the kool-aid.
anon 8:47,
What are you smoking? MGP writes an insightful synopsis of the root cause of Bolivia's societal harms and the best you can do to is write gibberish in "dude" in a English jargon version of broken english nonsense written by radicals like "Bolivia Libre"? On the other hand, yours might be a contemporary version of an argumentum ad absurdium since you lack the facts to write a valid counterargument to refute MGP's claims and reasoning.
Get a life.
Mike W,
The Christian Science Monitor gives some recent history on the issue. I’ve been in Bolviia a number of years though and I still don’t get it. I, like most folks from outside Bolivia couldn't tell the difference between Camba and a Colla, but the distrust and anger goes back a long way. (Ref MGP's "balanced" comments.) There are any number of points to start from in this discussion. Anecdotally, I’d heard that in the 1950’s, when Santa Cruz was much smaller, a group of “Collas” marched into the center of town to protest and did extensive damage both to property and people. I can’t find anything to validate the claim, but I’ve heard the story repeatedly meaning that there are plenty of Cambas who believe it. Between 2002 (when I got here) and 2005 there were frequent occasions when squatters would simply take over land that someone had acquired. Legally or illegally never came into it; the question was whether the land was being put to use. My first landlord lost a small parcel of land in the city to squatters. These weren’t wealthy land-barrons. They were trying to get the money together to build when all the sudden somebody built a shack on the land and claimed it. (Look up the Movimiento sin Tierra).
Meanwhile, there are Collas that live in a degree of poverty the likes of which I’d never seen before. When Morales comes along and blames everyone without indigenous blood for the evils of the land, well the message sells. From what I can tell, it is a lot of mistrust. The funny thing is that Camba – Colla is more of a geographical difference than race. Santa Cruz is not mostly of pure blood European descent nor mostly pureblood indigenous; it’s much more homogenous. There are plenty of indigenous looking people wearing suits and plenty of European looking people begging for a handout.
All that said, the differences become apparent fairly quickly based on the clothing that many indigenous people wear in Santa Cruz city. The ladies of the pollera can often be found in the marketplace or selling wares on the corner. Regrettably, the ladies wearing Potosi garb are usually found on the streets asking for money. I’d never been any place where generalizations hold so true. The long and the short of it in my opinion is that it suits certain groups’ needs to incite division based on race.
E-G, you're back.
Amy Goodman was surely wearing her kneepads with her soft, infantile questions.
Mike W. you need to look at the Camba-Colla issue within several contexts. Just look at the political side of it.
First Santa Cruz and La Paz are separated by 1000 km But from before the Spanish arrived they have been part of the same "unitary" territory connected by trade routes flowing outward from Lake Titicaca. From colonial times Santa Cruz provided food to the mines in the highlands.
Post independence was 80 yrs of political chaos, little economic and population growth. In La Paz, they fought over power, in Santa Cruz they farmed when they felt like it, and waited for the mule to come announcing changes in government changes.
But big mining, 30 yrs of stable government, the Chaco War, the Revolution, discovery of oil, pretty much modernized the country and made Santa Cruz more important to the country.
But the same disfunctions continued, a smaller inefficient state with an incompetent legislature, simply became bigger.
There was half a century of bickering to get a railroad from Cochabamba to Santa Cruz to connect with La Paz. The road was finally built. Meanwhile food was brought in from Peru and Chile.
The 1952 revolutionary government did pour millions of dollars in aid and loans, for agriculture in Santa Cruz. To be fair also to the highlands. Agricultural production actually went down in the highlands, it grew in the lowlands. But even with this money (and the later land grants from Banzer)Santa Cruz had the attitude that investment was done because the government was banking on the oil revenue it could get from the department. And they could point out, that it was money well spent,they made the land work, increased herds, while highland agriculture stagnated.
Santa Cruz developed an attitude. They felt excluded from political maneuverings in the Capital where coups, riots, legislative impasses, and revolutions happened.
Example: The city had 100K inhabitants and Gulf Oil invested 100 Million bucks in the 60's. Cambas worked in the oil fields from day one, with other Bolivians who migrated to the city. The Cambas fought tooth and nail to get a 11 percent share of hydrocarbons revenue to stay in the department.
Then Gulf gets nationalized by a military government, mass demonstrations in La Paz in support. Cambas were ticked off. They felt that they were not consulted when this went down. A couple of years, there was little revenue.
You can see the pattern. Santa Cruz feels like they are taking off, and then chaos in La Paz 1000km away takes it away unilaterally. Fair or not, it is an attitude they have, despite benefitting sometimes from government policies.
the best solution is to kill all the cambas, and let Evo rule - by the way do you know where can I buy a poncho, I want to wear one for xmas, so lets start killing all the cambas who think they are white but are mestisos ( there are no white people at bolivia)
Your wrong 9.55. There a few white Bolivians, very few, they keep to themselves and try and live a decent life. The mestiso is the one that runs the politics, economy etc etc. They are the CROOKED ones. The true Indian is honest, humble and a good person. It is the Cholo that ruins Bolivia. Unfortunately most pf Bolivia has a cholo mentality, no matter which side. Kill the cholos, mas bien. Even Evo is a cholo, NOT a true Imdian as he claims. The Camba/Kolla issue goes back a long ways. Study Bolivian history. Evo, only has brought it to a head.
What I don't understand. You see very few, or hardly any Cambas living in the altiplano cities, except if they have to, or study. In Santa Cruz the Kolla population, almost over runs the locals, as they migrated there, and the kollas enjoy living there. They call it home and there children are more Camba than the real Cambas and the now so called Cambas with Kolla blood, go beating up Kollas. This has been proven many times. One more thing, they are also against Evo and the MAS, as the real Cambas.
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