Friday, January 11, 2008

Bolivia´s Warring Leaders Have a Talk

Dear Readers:

This week brought important political developments in Bolivia, with the meeting in La Paz on Monday between President Morales, Vice-President Garcia Linera, and all nine regional Governors – a meeting broadcast live on national television.

Here is a Blog post from Aldo Orellana and Elliot Williams of The Democracy Center team, about these developments and what they might mean for Bolivia.

Jim Shultz


Bolivia´s Warring Leaders Have a Talk

The year 2007 in Bolivia ended in an escalation of tension that seemed to bring Bolivia to the breaking point. Two years into the Morales presidency, and in the wake of bloody battles over the Constituent Assembly, the tensions culminated on December 15th when two competing political paths were presented to the nation – one in the east and one in the west – the new Constitution presented in La Paz by the national government and the autonomy statutes presented in Santa Cruz and announced in the departments of Beni, Pando, and Tarija.

During these final months of the year, leaders on both sides continued to provoke, pushing further polarization, and drawing the country closer to its limits. Only the arrival of the holiday season succeeded in interrupting the tension. Many here imagined that 2008 would open with tensions just as high, as the New Year did exactly a year ago today, when three men were left dead as a result of political conflicts in Cochabamba.

The announcement of a meeting for Monday, January 7th between the national government and the regional governors produced a new hope for peace for many Bolivians. The meeting set out to discuss three central points: the new Constitution approved by the MAS-dominated Constituent Assembly; the autonomy statutes proposed by the eastern regions; and the distribution of the Impuesto Directo a los Hidrocarburos (IDH), one of the key mechanisms through which revenues from foreign oil companies are allocated and spent here.

The climate of the meeting was very calm, despite various altercations occurring in past days. The state television channel directly transmitted the dialogue to the nation, starting at 6pm and lasted for nearly eight hours. The President, Vice President, various cabinet members, and the nine Governors were all in attendance. There discussions produced three important preliminary agreements: to review the conflict-ridden themes of the new Constitution; to move ahead with the autonomy processes; and to create a compensation fund for the departments. The work of following-up on those proposals was to be done by specific commissions with teams of people from both sides of the debate.

The first commission began meeting on January 9th in La Paz to discuss the IDH. The commission tackling the problems of the new Constitution and autonomous statutes will begin their work next Monday, when the Governors and the national government are scheduled to meet again in La Paz.

January 7th was critical in many ways. It marked one of the few times that President Morales met with all nine Governors together. The leaders, who had up until this point been pursuing rival courses that were driving the country apart, began a process to potentially bring the country together. The balloon of political tension that seemed ready to burst in December, began to deflate, if just some.

Signs of cooperation continue since Monday. Morales and Cochabamba’s Prefect, Manfred Reyes Villa, two of the bitterest political rivals in the country, met this week to discuss the distribution of the IDH. This is the first time the two had spoken since they cut off contact a year ago. Morales has also proposed to make the some of the autonomy statutes of the media luna compatible with the new constitution. A large gap between the parties surely remains, but attempts to decrease this divide seem to be genuine.

While public opinion seems to support efforts at compromise, the issues on the table don’t have easy solutions. For example, the autonomy statutes planned by Santa Cruz call for departmental control of land and resources, but the new Constitution clearly put the national government in charge of these matters. Given the wide gaps involved, the question remains, how far can this discussion go? Do the discussions that began in La Paz on Monday offer a lasting or temporary peace? How will the citizens of Bolivia respond to the calls of unity issued by the government? Have the divisions that have been fomented for so long created too large a gap to bridge?

In Cochabamba we may get an answer to these questions sooner than other parts of the country. January 11th marks the one-year anniversary of violent clashes that left three people dead and the city divided. Many events will take place this day. It remains to be seen whether these events will occur as billed – a way to honor those whose lives were taken a year prior – or if they will be used to rally the two sides and reinvigorate the schisms of 2007. This anniversary could be a preview of the future.

But for now, those who predicted that Bolivia would careen off the side of a cliff as 2008 began, will have to put those predictions on hold. For now, both sides of the east-west divide have decided that dialog, rather than conflict and sharp rhetoric, are in their better interest, and the nation’s.

Written by Aldo Orellana and Elliot Williams.

50 Comments:

Blogger Toddums said...

Aldo and Elliot,

Great blog. Just one question; you state "Morales has also proposed to make the some of the autonomy statutes of the media luna compatible with the new constitution." Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Morales has also proposed to make the new constitution more compatible with the autonomy statutes of the media luna."? My impression is that Morales has opened up the possibility of changing the constitution to make them not patently in conflict with the division of powers outlined in its current draft.

Also, I think you should note that the opposition has made no similar offers to modify their autonomy statutes, and that VP Linea went on record stating that the changes would "be minor" and "mostly to correct errors" in the current draft of the CPE.

6:21 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Do you feel that autonomy is a bad thing, Toddums?

And if so, could you explain why it's good for South Africa and the USA, but bad for Bolivia?

1:58 AM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

One of the problems w/ approving a constitution draft under dubious circumstances (w/o opposition, changing venues last minute, and rushed voting) is that the document contained numerous internal contradictions & errors. It's also odd that, though "approved" by the CA, the document is now re-opened to accommodate opposition concerns (some of which are legitimate).

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't get to wired up on the possibility of changes in the MAS constitution. Evo baked up yesterday about being involved on it and passed the tasks to his constiuents which want nothing to do with the deal made with the prefects.

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There we go, Centellas and other goni cronies complaining about the constitution.
Look at the picture; to the right side of the table are seated all the white prefectos, and the few indios in power are Evo and ...?
So what are you talking about?
Are the indios de mierda really in charge of the country?
Just bull crap.

8:37 AM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

A few questions to ponder:

1) Is it legitimate to question Bolivia's current political authorities? Or does that automatically make one an oligarch?

2) Is it possible to question the process by which the CA was approved, without automatically opposing a more just & equitable distribution of social, economic, and political power?

3) Is it possible to suggest that some of the concerns raised by media luna leaders are legitimate, without automatically supporting all their claims?

It's easy to see politics in stark, reductionist, black-white terms. Either you're with the revolution, or you're not. Either you're with us, or the terrorists. Etc. Let's burry that rubish and start really thinking about how best to come to consensus, rather than using politics as blunt instrument to purge our enemies.

Also, please, please note that race and ethnicity are neither static nor exclusionary categories. This one-dimensional image of "indigenousness" (wether of the "noble savage" or the "Indio de mierda") is just as patronizing and (frankly) racist as the kind of postcolonial mentality multiculturalism and pluralism represents.

My grandparents spoke Quechua at home. Am I indigenous? My father speaks Spanish. Am I mestizo? My mother speaks English as her first language. Am I white? I live in the US. Am I a gringo? I grew up in Santa Cruz. Am I a camba? My father (and his family) hails from Oruro. Am I a colla? My mother's family hails from backwoods Kentucky. Am I poor white trash? But I moved to the US from Bolivia. Am I Hispanic? or Latino?

1:41 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

BTW, for all the talk of speaking out for "Bolivian voices," I rarely see any of them here in this space. I also rarely see Jim (or his staff) link to them or mention any of them.

If you're interested, Voces Bolivianas is a project recently launched by Eddie Avila (if you're skeptical, he worked on the MAS 2005 campaign in Cochabamba). It offers minigrants to young people in El Alto, and now also in a marginal neighborhood in Santa Cruz, and teaches them to blog, post videos, etc. They're also a version in Aymara.

http://vocesbolivianas.org/

For a lengthy list of Bolivian bloggers, of all stripes, and from all backgrounds, see:

http://blogsbolivia.blogspot.com/

These are real Bolivian voices, from Bolivians, in Bolivia. It would be nice to see Jim acknowledge them from time to time. Talk about building grassroots democracy from ground up! These guys are doing it. It would be nice to recognize their own agency, and not just talk about them.

It's important to remember that Jim's isn't the only voice out there. Not even in English.

For a leftist perspective, you can always check out:

http://boliviarising.blogspot.com/

For some great independent journalism and photojournalism (from a left perspective), see:

http://www.nickbuxton.info/

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Real Bolivin voices? What is your problem?
Do you think that Centellas, Boli Nica, and other annonymous are from Chile?
Many of the comments come from Goni, Tuto, and their followers who try to discredit this page.
Thank you for the links but don't you think that what you are doing is impolite, it is like going to your house and inviting your guests to someone house where the wine or beer is more real.

I am also a bolivian so forget about patronizing.

9:19 AM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

I don't claim the mantle of being a "real" Bolivian (whatever that's supposed to mean). And, no, I don't think it's rude to point readers to other sites. Most blogs (which, frankly, is what makes them blogs) do that: they link to other voices, other bloggers, and join a broader conversation. And, honestly, I expect that from an organization that claims to want "to build democracy from the ground up" ... shouldn't it once in a while acknowledge that this isn't the ONLY perspective available? Shouldn't it encourage readers who really care about Bolivia to: a) listen to broad range of perspectives and b) encourage them to read local, grassroots perspectives?

At the very least, you can check out the links I posted and see what you think of them. Limiting oneself to one single perspective is so FOX news.

I think the comments here are (on the whole) fruitful. Despite the occasional rudeness (from all sides), people are interjecting other voices into the discussion. That's good. There is no "true" reality, only different perspectives. In that light, I'd like to see evidence that Jim & his group are more engaged in the local Cochabamba (and Bolivian) community of discourse. Frankly, I've not yet seen evidence of that.

But the first rule of a BLOG (as opposed to an online newspaper, which is a hierarchically structured piece of information) is: Link, Link, Link.

12:04 PM  
Anonymous galloglass said...

Anon 9:19:
Why is anyone who disagrees with you a Gonista, Banzerite, or Tuto sycophant? Miguel, Boli-Nica, Frank, et.al simply want a modern, liberal, social democracy that respects the rule of law and that treats all Bolivians equally. I, for one, don't think that the MAS constitution provides for any of the aforementioned principles.

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

galloglass:
which are the bits about the new constitution you think are dangerous/anti-democratic etc? i haven't met anyone anti-MAS yet who can actually explain this properly. many haven't even read it.
look forward to your enlightenment.

6:03 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

I, for one, don't actually find much of anything of the MAS constitutional document objectionable. On the contrary, I think it's full of well-intentioned nods to all sorts of social, economic, and political rights. There may be a few minor points of disagreement, but overall I find the document unproblematic.

My objections are rather these:

A) The document is too long. I prefer short constitutions which can remain open to later interpretations (through courts & legislatures). Because it's so long, I'm also left wondering how many of the lovely provisions will actually be applied (and how many are window dressing).

B) The main objection is that it was *imposed* rather than a result of genuine compromise. Even a perfect document, if it's viewed as illegitimately *constructed* will be difficult to implement. Bolivia doesn't necessary need a *perfect* constitution, it needs one that most Bolivians will accept as binding (this document, for better or worse, seems to fail this standard).

As an academic who specifically studies electoral systems (w/ a dissertation on electoral reform in Bolivia), I also have some strong reservations about the new electoral formulas introduced. But that's another issue entirely.

6:58 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

Identity Issues Infecting This Blog:
1) Frank_IBC's ignorance of the US constitution’s supremacy clause disinforms by identifying the USA as an example of how “autonomy” is good.
2) Mcentellas said “I don't claim . . . being a "real" Bolivian ... My grandparents spoke Quechua at home. . . My mother speaks English as her first language. Am I white? . . . My mother's family hails from backwoods Kentucky. Am I poor white trash?”

Identity Issues Resolved:
1) Frank IBC’s ignorance again compares oranges to apples. Example: Californians (oranges) do not exercise or seek the de facto sovereignty that the Coat-led insurgents in Bolivia (apples) do;
2) Culturally confused “mcentallas” resolved his dilemma by showing he is an Oreo cookie: brown Bolivian on the outside and Kentucky “poor white trash” on the inside.

2:08 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

PS: Note that Mcentellas again played the "I am an academic" card. That may lead to again exposing him as an affirmative action hire from a weak public university's watered down program wherein he filled in bubbles on scantrons (according to his guesses) instead of developing critical thinking skill sets by way of the socratic method or intensive writing assigments.

Worse for him yet, his "dissertation" may be linked so that we can all have a good laugh. . . again.

2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I, for one, would like to commend Mcentellas' posts. They are balanced, fair and even-handed, and most importantly, he does not engage in personal attacks which is more than I can say for many of the posters.

Folks, please engage in constructive dialogue rather than name-calling. It's just a waste of everyone's time if you don't.

2:59 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Who are the "Coats" who are leading the "insurgents", Gridiot?

Are they related to the Stuffed Shirts?

3:22 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

Again, Grindio responds w/ outright racism (e.g. his claim that Hispanic/Latino academics can only get jobs based on affirmative action). If you want to see my c.v.:

http://users.dickinson.edu/~centellm/

I know Jim et al don't want to censor people's opinions. But it would be nice of him to make some sort of statement condemning the kind of racism of people like Grindio. It hasn't happened yet, of course. So I doubt it'll happen now.

4:45 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

Grindio:

If you're going to be racist, at least get your terms right. A person who is "brown on the outside and white on the inside" is a coconut, not an Oreo. That's usually used by racists to describe someone who is "black on the outside but white on the inside."

Other terms a racist could use to describe me include: halfsie, halfbreed, or graham cracker (a "brown" cracker).

I'm always amazed that racists demonstrate their ignorance by not even knowing the proper lexicon.

5:00 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

Frank_IBC said... Who are the "Coats" who are leading the "insurgents",

Answer: Branco Marinkovic, for one.

Carlos Bohrt, the leader of Podemos (a right wing party) said, "que si el presidente del Comité Cívico pro Santa Cruz, Branco Marinkovic, impone su estatuto autonómico por encima del gobierno y de la mayoría de los bolivianos, conducirá a un "desastre" al pueblo cruceño.

5:35 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

Exhibit one of the case for considering mcentellas our resident Clarence Thomas, in terms of affirmative action's negative impacts on competence in the public sphere:

mcentellas lacks reading comprehension skills since I made no such universal claim as he falsely states: "Hispanic/Latino academics can only get jobs based on affirmative action".

My argument is specific to mcentellas lack of key skill sets for a competent "academic" and for his riding his affirmative action rocking horse to nowhere (unless you count his trolling for visitors to his generally unvisited blog as some type of marketing).

Hispanics/bi-cultural latinos can be very competent people. This is evidenced by those who-on their own merits-serve the public, like Bill Richardson.

Here in urban Los Angeles, few coconuts are to be found which contrast with the many Oreo cookies available. "Oreo cookie" is a culturally specific pejorative used by many in the Chicano and/or Mexican-American culture to describe those regarded as sellouts/culturally confused, like mcentellas.

In summation, my arguments are not race based. However one might understand mcentellas if they consider his confessed context as a child of Kentucky "poor white trash".

5:54 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

Grindio:

My apologies. I misunderstood. You were arguing that I (specifically) am a product of affirmative action, not all Hispanics/Latinos (generally). Gotcha.

Now I'll have to also remember that you seem to think that "all" Croats (not "Coats") are "fascists" and that any ethnic minorities who disagree w/ you are sellouts and must rely on affirmative action.

That's some progressive thinking, there. All you're missing is the white sheet (although in the "blind" online world, I can't be sure).

I'm also curious to know how Grindio assesses the necessary "skill sets" for academia.

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miguel,

Remember Grindio is quite the troll. He would never give away his true identity or where he was educated or his where abouts.

10:40 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

I actually find it sad that for a website & organization that claims to be "progressive" there's never been a condemnation of the kind of racist attacks by people like Grindio. Couple that w/ the previous post that shows video of a white person imitating a coca-chewing indigenous Bolivian ... and it's a little troubling.

I don't expect Jim to censor posts. That's fine. But common morality suggests that he should at least say something about where he stands regarding the open racism of some of his readers. I've emailed him about that in the past. His only reply was: "I don't censor comments." Fine. I don't censor my guests either. But if they're racist, I make it clear that I find that kind of talk disgusting. I don't think that's too much to expect.

10:49 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Anonymous 10:40 p.m.:

El Gridiot's entire career in film consists of walking along Hollywood Boulevard with a camcorder and annoying the young female locals.

11:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

aside from Grindio, who does not care for this type of things/links, Jorge Lazarte is publishing scathing article-by-article critiques of the new CPE.

Very interesting, and I'm afraid to say, correct

12:02 PM  
Anonymous PonchoAsustado said...

Another blog that I find debates Bolivian political issues are Bolivia Libre's one:

http://bolivia-libre.blogspot.com/

Unlike Jim, Bolivia Libre will answer all your opinions, and he/she will be willing to debate with you.

Beware, he is anti-MAS, but is not grindio style. Bolivia Libre would bring you facts on the debate rather than name-calling.

4:24 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

Miguel is right. There are Bolivian intellectuals and professionals - with solid academic backgrounds and work experience - researching, writing, and arguing about Bolivia's current political mess. More than a few of them came out of the left, but unlike those counted die-hards and wack jobs feeding nonsense to Evo, actually changed their positions to the center after the Berlin Wall came down.
Many of these folks are cited in scholarly articles in foreign University journals. Yet, you rarely see them quoted in the simplistic foreign press articles on Bolivia, that prefer quick Schultz soundbite to fit in their simplistic stories of the poor downtrodden indigenous president.

I commented earlier on Fernando Molina's dissection of the constitution.

Molina's magazine, Revista Pulso this week alone has this article by Francesco Zaratti on Natural Resources and the CPE, and Roberto Laserna on The End of the Republic.

2:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets kill Reyes Villa, fucking loser, live EVO and CHAVEZ, I ll kill the PODEMOS fucks.

9:19 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

"Remember Grindio is quite the troll. He would never give away his true identity or where he was educated or his where abouts."

The above was posted above by a "troll" who did not "give away his true identity or where he was educated or his where abouts".

In contrast to that example of right wing "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy and in the spirit of full disclosure, transparency and the apparent need to know my "where abouts":

Last night, I was at Les Deux. I was the Latino wearing my Prada sunglasses at night, drinking Grey Goose. My where abouts was between the table service being enjoyed fully by A) beautiful, tall, fun Paris Hilton and her beautiful girlfriends and B)even taller Cuttino Mobley and his party of fellow LA Clippers who were on the other side of me.

Resident Fascists: Good luck trying to get past the velvet ropes of Les Deux's face control, not to mention finding its unmarked location if your posts are any sign of your inability to think.

10:54 PM  
Anonymous El Gridiota said...

And after I left Les Deux, I went to Les Trois and hung with Bart Simpson and Bobby Hill. We made farting noises with our armpits all night.

And when I got home I smoked crack for the next four hours and masturbated to a picture of Paris Hilton's chihuahua. Then a cat popped out of my ceiling and said, "CEILING CAT IS WATCHING U MASTERBATE!" I don't think the cat likes chihuahuas. Stupid gringo cat.

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think mcentellas would do a little better for his credibility if he stopped whining on every post that somneone is calling hium a aname and Jim Shultz doesn´t decide to drop everything else he is doing and come to his rescue in the comments section.

Do you really expect the Bloggers here to spend their time swatting anonymous flies in the dark of cyberspace because you need the attaention?

Grow up and get over waiting for Daddy to come your your rescue, or to censor people you don´t like.

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is a test

9:15 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Anonymous 2:16 p.m.'s comment says more about himself than about mcentellas. Racist comments are perfectly OK with him.

2:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Centellas:
I went to your links, including your personal page.
Summary. The democracy center page is so much interesting specially when Jim S. writes.
Your page sucks. Sorry but it is true. Your have a serious identity issue. Your wife is a fat ugly white, and I would not show her pictures. It seems that your father made you believe that by marrying a red headed white woman "white trash" as you say it, you have made it.
Please call go to the psych dept in your college to get some counseling.

6:41 AM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Pot, meet kettle.

especially when Jim writes

Which seems to be less and less these days. Maybe he's getting disillusioned with Evo.

Or maybe just lazy. Seems possible, given the amount of spam that is popping up and not getting deleted.

10:18 AM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

To Anon 6:41:

I'm quite curious to know what someone else's interpretation of what my identity is "supposed to be." Please, enlighten me. I was under the mistaken impression that a person's identity was a product of self-actualization, based on one's own agency. I didn't realize that there was a "correct" way for a person "to be" and that identities were handed out at birth, on the basis of genetics. I guess I thought the theories of Herbert Spencer died in 1945.

8:24 PM  
Blogger mcentellas said...

To Anon 6:41:

I might also point out that college (or university) "Psychology" departments don't usually do counseling. Actually, college/university psychology departments are often staffed by research psychologists, not clinical therapists. If you meant "Psychiatry" department, there's often no such thing, since psychiatry is a branch of medicine, and part of a medical school specialization. Just FYI. But I do appreciate your concern for my mental well being.

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