In Bolivia, When Dialogue Fails…
Readers:When I left Bolivia three weeks ago, popular attention was dedicated to two things: a sputtering attempt at political dialog by the nation's President, Vice-President, and nine regional governors, and a national catastrophe caused by flooding. When I returned to Bolivia last Friday popular attention was dedicated to two things…a sputtering attempt at political dialog by the nation's President, Vice-President, and nine regional governors, and a national catastrophe caused by flooding.
That said, there have been important developments these past weeks on the dialog issue. To bring readers up to speed two members of The Democracy Center team, Aldo Orellana and Lily Whitesell, have prepared the Blog post below.
Jim Shultz
When Dialogue Fails…
After two weeks of growing tensions, the Morales government and the regional governors are at a current standstill in their ongoing political battles. The opposition governors and civic committees formed a new entity, calling themselves the National Democratic Council (CONALDE). They gave the Morales government an ultimatum to stop their current political moves with a deadline of last Wednesday, February 13.
The dialogue had begun fairly well more than a month ago, with the goals of reviewing the most controversial issues of the new Constitution, reaching an agreement on regional autonomies, and discussing the re-distribution of the Impuesto Directo a los Hidrocarburos (IDH), one of the key mechanisms through which revenues from foreign oil companies are allocated and spent here.
The current breakdown in talks began on February 1, when the government announced it would start payment of the “Bono Dignidad,” financial support for senior citizens similar to the US’ Social Security, using IDH funds. The program was approved by Congress last November, but the financing, which requires approximately 200 million dollars annually, had not been secured.
President Morales, speaking at the program’s launch in Cochabamba, said, “[The payment of the Bono Dignidad] is thanks to the natural resources recuperated in the struggle of the Bolivian people [in 2003] and nationalized by the government. … These economic resources are not Evo Morales’ money… it’s not the mayors’ or governors’ money, it’s the Bolivian people’s money, and … it must be returned to the Bolivian people.”
The opposition denounced the move as the end of the dialogue. Prior to the Bono Dignidad program, the IDH funds were to be distributed at the regional level, under the control of the governors. On the day of the government’s public launch of the program, Santa Cruz’s governor [Ruben Costas, pictured above] responded by announcing that a regional referendum on autonomy would take place on May 4. He asserted that, “The dialogue is hanging by a thread… this [action by Morales] is an intent to destabilize the regional governors.”
For its part, one of the leaders of the right-wing PODEMOS party, which has been marginalized as the governors take the main opposition role, added that, “The dialogue has unfortunately been broken … we don’t know where it is headed … because the president decided to begin to pay [the Bono Dignidad] without the agreement of the other side.”
A week later, the gap between the Morales government and the regional governors grew even wider when the members of CONALDE met in Sucre. In the meeting, the governors and their respective civic committees took a much more confrontational stance toward the government. They approved a number of resolutions, demanding that the government accept them.
These proposals went far beyond the three topics that had been flagged for discussion in the previous month of dialogue. If not impossible, they would be very difficult for the government to accept. They rejected the use of IDH funds to pay the Bono Dignidad. They demanded a new regional governor’s election in Sucre. They insisted that the government recognize the autonomy referendum proposals of Santa Cruz and three other regions – proposals that would give so much power to the regional governments that even the leadership of PODEMOS has been openly skeptical of them. The most difficult point that they suggested was to take the Constituent Assembly process back to last August 15, the day that the Capitalia issue was taken out of debate. They proposed taking the issue up again and demanded that the government call for a national referendum to decide the location of the executive and legislative branches.
Both sides are accusing the other of breaking laws. CONALDE has based most of their demands, particularly those dealing with the new Constitution, on what they assert were a series of illegal moves by the government, from taking the Capitalia issue out of debate to the vote that approved the new Constitution. On their side, the government has claimed that the governors’ call for regional autonomy referendums is illegal. If there is a difference, it is that the opposition is entrenched in legal arguments about past events, while the government has entrenched itself in legal debates about events which have yet to occur.
Perhaps what the two sides have most in common are demands for referendums, which could be the best, and most democratic, way out of the current standoff. First, the new Constitution would need a national referendum for its approval. Also, last November, the government proposed a referendum to give the population an up-or-down vote on the leadership of President Morales, Vice-President Garcia Linera, and the nine regional governments – which could completely reconfigure the political scene of the country. The proposal has not been approved by the Bolivian Senate, though it seems to be gathering support there. For their part, the opposition governors have called for their regional autonomy referendums on May 4 and are demanding a national referendum to resolve the Capitalia issue for once and for all.
There is a good reason for this flurry of referendum proposals. Both sides know that in order to unwind the current tension, re-direct the country’s politics, and take their next step forward, they would need to clearly have public support behind them. The current failure in dialogue has left the government and the opposition at an impasse. Both have shown that they are willing to take the risk of losing in a referendum. If they are unable to begin to dialogue again in the next few weeks – on any of these issues – perhaps a referendum on the national and regional leadership would be the best option. Political leaders shouldn’t be afraid of this kind of popular decision – though they very often are.
It is yet to be seen where the current standoff in Bolivian politics will lead. Last week, the government confirmed that they would not respond or capitulate to the demands. Leading up to their ultimatum deadline, CONALDE had warned of protests, blockades, and taking public buildings if the government failed to meet their demands. However, they have postponed politics and demonstrations to address the flooding crisis in their home jurisdictions.
Floods have been ravaging this country, particularly in the opposition governors’ regions. Since November, 53 people have lost their lives as a direct result of the flooding, more than 55,000 families have been affected, and 31,000 square miles of land are under water in Beni alone. President Morales and the governors of Santa Cruz and Beni are meeting today to discuss rebuilding efforts. If these political leaders are able to find common ground as they work to rebuild their country, perhaps one good thing will have come out of the tragedy of the flooding.
Written by Aldo Orellana and Lily Whitesell

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Ahh the zealots, they are learning how to distortion the true from the master. Aldo and Lily (A&L) blame the National DEMOCRATIC Council for breaking the dialogue but at the same time they confessed that it began to fail when the Morales regime started stealing the IDH from the regions, which was one of the 3 points of the agenda being debated; who then broke the dialogue?
Regarding the CONALDE meeting in Sucre, where according to A&L the opposition governors “went fare beyond the three topics” in debate; we have the following remarks from these two:
1. “The most difficult point that they suggested was to take the Constituent Assembly process back to last August 15, the day that the Capitalia issue was taken out of debate” which corresponds to item number one in the dialogue table, “the goals of reviewing the most controversial issues of the new Constitution”
2. “They insisted that the government recognize the autonomy referendum proposals of Santa Cruz and three other regions” which corresponds to item number two in the dialogue table, “reaching an agreement on regional autonomies”.
3. “They rejected the use of IDH funds to pay the Bono Dignidad”, which corresponds to item number three in the dialogue table, “and discussing the re-distribution of the Impuesto Directo a los Hidrocarburos (IDH)”
4. “They demanded a new regional governor’s election in Sucre”. So, this is the fare and beyond point Aldo & Lily are talking about. They forgot to mention that Chuquisaca doesn’t have an elected governor because the one occupying that position, which belonged to Evo Morales’ MAS party; resigned and requested political asylum in Peru, where it was granted. I will like for A&L to explain us why he had to request political asylum from his own party?
A&L also forgot to mention that just a couple of days before they publish this post Evo Morales publicly arranged his SS (Social Sectors) to take the arms, meaning violence, against the autonomic process in Santa Cruz. The apprentice of tyrant has no idea of the repercussions a civil war will bring to Bolivia, I guess his friends at the democracy center have romanticize with him some sort of indigenous war with a gigantic orgy in gratitude to god Sun for the victory.
One thing is certain, the regime has completely lost their mind and the Bolivian population isn’t willing to easily lose their democratic liberties and human rights; that is why the maSSist like Aldo and Lily cannot even write a post that would make sense in relation to their point of view.
Evo has commited a high crime by discusing arming his followers. 1) he should be impeached for this imitately, 2) he needs to give the names of those who have asked for guns imitately so they can be arrested. 3) if names are not given, Evo should be impeached and then arrested. The socialist center has again shown it's true colors. What a pack of morons, trying to sound intelligent!!!
BL,
You forgot to mention that Evo's call to arms, violence and genocide against the 4 million of oligarchs in Bolivia that do not support him, was rebuked by the Social Sectors themselves!!
http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080217_006185/nota_247_549861.htm
Another glaring omission by these two hacks is Evo's stance that he will only leave the presidency if the number of votes against him in the referendum is higher than the number of votes for him in the past general election.....how you like that fine print!
i wish the U.S. government could use money from natural resources to fund our social security. i am 29 years old. since i was about 14 i have heard that i "should not depend upon social security being around" when i retire.
Will the "Democracy" Center comment on the latest threats from indigenous groups to destroy ballot boxes in Santa Cruz? Is that democracy? I challenge the DC to find one example where Costas, Marinkovic, et.al., have advocated violence of any sort.
Now that the rain is beginning to recede the “Media Luna” autonomists are gathering in the sky like vultures. They are squawking “autonomy” and demanding “democracy” but the only “freedom” they are seeking is the freedom to continue plundering for themselves and their clans.
Alberto Quispe Huallpa
If Bolivia took in more than 1.3 billion dollars more in 2007 than it did in 2005 why is it necessary to cut funding to the state governments, when the old age pension only costs 200 million? Where is the rest of the money? Senior Quispe Huallpa, I realize this is advanced math for you and your tribe, however, it is quite clear to the rest of the civilized world that the people in power now have sticky fingers. Is this a case of Indian see, Indian do?
Alberto Quispe Huallpa's conscience has been brought by Venezuelan money.
If you actually do the numbers and include the money from Chavez (and the creative accounting regarding the 'donated eye operations' and 'gastos reservados') this administration in 2yrs has pocketed more money than the neoliberals in the past 20yrs.
Hopefully Mr. Quispe can wake up and realize that we hava ch'ulla pimping ancient traditions in order to do what all politicians have done before. Evo is not part of the pachakuti
Hardly a coincidence that sectors refuting Evo's "call to arms" are the ones who got soundly thrashed on the streets of Sucre and Cochabamba? They experienced first-hand the depth of feeling of their fellow citizens in those cities. Cops were reportedly impressed by the tenacity of Sucre students. In addition, they clearly saw their opponents were not all "oligarchs" - indeed the dead lawyers mother wore a pollera, and local MAS activists joined the Sucre mobs. Given the front-line perspective of cocaleros, Alte~os, and ponchos, it is easy to see why they forsee a calamity if there is armed conflict.
Negotiation and compromise are part of Aymara and Andean cultures. Going back to December, members from the base have been urging Evo to compromise and dialogue. Evo, Garcia Linera and company are too busy playing "revolutionary vanguard" to listen.
Bolivia Libre, and other raving mad extremists try to protray MAS supporters as a war mongering savages. At the same time pro-autonomy residents of Santa Cruz use violence, and threats of violence, often to impose their viewpoints. Bolviia Libre certainly won't criticize that because of his simplistic view of Bolivian politics as an epic struggle between good and evil. As long as extremist only see fault in their perceived adversaries the threat of civil violence will hang over all of Bolivia.
Sure Evo uses inflammatory language at times, but he was quoted in today's Los Tiempos calling for non-violence. The excerpt below is from Los Tiempos' report on his speech to the Congresso de los Trabajadores del Tropico on 2/18/08.
[Evo Morales] Dijo que actualmente es el "imperio el que utiliza las armas contra los pueblos indefensos, que permanentemente toma las armas para invadir a los pueblos y no es el pueblo que levanta las armas".
Recordó que sólo en el pasado había guerrilleros contra el imperio que tomaban las armas. "Aquí, nosotros estamos organizados por la dignificación de nuestro país y lo único que pedimos es que haya justicia social y no nos consideren cono animales", dijo Morales.
It's an old trick of dictator want-a-be's to stir up trouble, then cool down, then heat it up again.No matter what side your on, it should be easy to see Evo is not to smart. He may be cunning, but he's not smart. He is easy to see through. If he continues to mouth off and continues taking bad advice from those around, he is going to bring down Bolivia, give all Indians a bad name and end up on the short end of a long knife. Just my opinion.
Answer to Galloglass' 12.56:
Costas' call to arms at Viru Viru, the taking over and destruction of public offices and tax agencies in Santa Cruz, grenades and death threats to homes of government and foreign officials, burning and looting of shops that stay open in anti-government huelgas, attacks on their owners and even those who dare to drive a car on those occasions, calls to kill indians at demonstrations and on graffitti round the city...
just a few examples that spring to mind. don't these count in your book?
Bolivia Libre, and other raving mad extremists try to protray MAS supporters as a war mongering savages. At the same time pro-autonomy residents of Santa Cruz use violence, and threats of violence, often to impose their viewpoints. Bolviia Libre certainly won't criticize that because of his simplistic view of Bolivian politics as an epic struggle between good and evil. As long as extremist only see fault in their perceived adversaries the threat of civil violence will hang over all of Bolivia.
Sure Evo uses inflammatory language at times, but he was quoted in today's Los Tiempos calling for non-violence.
What a crock....
Where is the balance here? First of all the "violence" in terms of provocations and action, has been all one-sided since 00. The politicized "masses" of the highlands and valleys- mainly the core groups of cocaleros, rural aymara, and El Alto neighborhood councils, who have initiated the confrontations, the violence, the blockades, spurred on by demagougery of Evo, and also Quispe who had no problems calling for violence against "Europeans". And they overthrew two constitutional governments, after making the country ungovernable. And after tempering themselves slightly to win the election, they kept at it.
The officialist level of rhetorical violence has remained constant -- and very one-sided. The governments discourse is full of demagougery and paranoia against real and perceived enemies. A mixture of Marxist-Leninist class warfare, paranoid nationalism, Chavista-style bullying, and indigenist revanchism, that has provoked reactions from just about every sector in the country.
Wt? You die mother fucker!!@1@#$%
Anon 9:32, Gallaglas asked for examples where Costas, Marinkovic, et.al., have advocated violence of any sort. Now unless you have photos of Costas tossing grenades or Marinkovic spray-painting graffiti, I think you missed the challenge. The closest you came was mentioning Costas' "call to arms". What he actually said though was "Si es que no hay solución, llamen a sus amistades (...) y mañana aquí tiene que haber por lo menos 20.000 o 50.000 cruceños; de pie y esperando las órdenes que le den el único comandante que tiene este pueblo que soy yo". That’s a call to assemble, to protest. Perhaps it’s a little egotistical in the delivery, but it’s not a call to violence.
Evo's threat over the weekend, was just one in a line of threats of use of violence, that goes way back to his cocalero days, where his "base" would booby trap fields, shoot at cops/military, destroy alternative-crop program buildings and facilities, kill suspected snitches, etc., etc.
Along the way to the presidency he has pretty much threatened just about everyone he doesn't like with not only rhetorical - but real violence. He had no trouble calling for the armed overthrowal of a couple of government, declared war on anyone who was an "oligarch". Blockades of main roads, caused millions in losses to big, small and tiny merchants, and causing more than one person to die because of lack of medical attention. Not to mention the multitudes descending on main cities throwing dynamite, beating on people wearing ties, and other sorts of fun.
And as a government, Evo has kept up the confrontational posture and the provocation, now with color of authority. He now has the police stand down or even join in. His inspiration/mentor/financier Hugo Chavez has also very publically chimed in, directly threatening Bolivia's opposition.
When the mobs went in to Cochabamba, threatening to hang Manfred "like Saddam Hussein" what else could they expect? Same goes for the officialist mobs that went in to Sucre, threatening to "strangle the city", and publicly killing dogs representing the opposition. Those acts of intimidation, needlessly raise the levels of confrontation, and get people fired up against the government. Evo's saber-rattling against Santa Cruz is well documented. MAS continues to polarize the country, and it is hardly surprising there is a backlash.
There seems to be a couple of angry, or for lack of better words-animal like, ‘opinion givers’ in this site but I have seen similar comments before, they don’t bother me. They don’t bother me because they show the world the raw hate and ignorance that is in the hearts of the so called Nueva Luna ‘democrats’ and their blind lackeys.
The following taken from the Bolivian and International press are just a couple of scenes in the “Richest Region of Bolivia”:
“Los riesgos sanitarios aumentan porque la población -20.000 personas están viviendo en carpas y campamentos- se baña en aguas sucias, camina descalza en las calles inundadas y cuenta con solo 180 letrinas.”
“Santa Cruz y Beni piden $US 1.000 millones para la reconstrucción”
There seems to be a couple of angry, or for lack of better words-animal like, ‘opinion givers’ in this site but I have seen similar comments before, they don’t bother me. They don’t bother me because they show the world the raw hate and ignorance that is in the hearts of the so called Nueva Luna ‘democrats’ and their blind lackeys.
The following taken from the Bolivian and International press are just a couple of scenes in the “Richest Region of Bolivia”:
“Los riesgos sanitarios aumentan porque la población -20.000 personas están viviendo en carpas y campamentos- se baña en aguas sucias, camina descalza en las calles inundadas y cuenta con solo 180 letrinas.”
“Santa Cruz y Beni piden $US 1.000 millones para la reconstrucción”
Alberto Quispe Huallpa
There seems to be a couple of angry, or for lack of better words-animal like, ‘opinion givers’ in this site but I have seen similar comments before, they don’t bother me. They don’t bother me because they show the world the raw hate and ignorance that is in the hearts of the so called Nueva Luna ‘democrats’ and their blind lackeys.
Wow, someone has anger issues.
The way Evo/MAS have "petitioned" for anything: no gas to Chile, Goni b Gone, Quick Elections, no more erradication, etc., has always been to go out and disrupt and bother other people, by showing muscle. The way that Santa Cruz drafted their autonomy statutes, by collecting signatures, holding open meetings, electing delegates, etc., etc., was much more "democratic" in form and content. Much more so than Evo locking out the opposition in Sucre and sending his people to the streets to ram the Constitutition no one has read down the peoples throats.
I have no illusions about the "Civicos" and whats left of the traditional political parties. But, they are downright enlightened when compared to MAS with their wacko ideology and dumb policies, not to mention their authoritarian bent, incompetence, and appeal to the worst fears, prejudices, and hatreds of Bolivians.
Norman, if Galloglass' intention was to compare the behaviour of indigenous groups (ie any members of their rank & file) with that of only Mssrs. Costas & Marinkovic then he's presenting a skewed argument. Funny you seem to have missed that.
The fact is that the episodes mentioned were the work of supporters of Costas & Marinkovic . And the declarations these two have made in the past include the one you've quoted which were - unless you really don't understand spanish & can't read between the lines - more than a call to assemble for a friendly tea-party at the airport. Crucenos understood this better than you it seems, turning up for the tea party with guns, baseball bats & other paraphernalia not generally considered strictly necessary for a tea party.
To his favour, Costas eventually did back down & the "ordenes" from the self-styled "unico comandante" changed once - if you'll allow me to continue with the tea metaphor - it was clear this was all a storm in a teacup, that the real issue was not so much a Venezuelan invasion of Bolivia as a case of corruption at Viru Viru's management - on whose very board of directors sits both the Prefecture & Union Civica (read Costas & Marinkovic) funnily enough - & which led to Viru Viru staff demanding cash payments from airport pilots & international airlines such as AA refusing to fly in to Santa Cruz.
This evidently disappointed Costas's supporters, who looking for a bit more liveliness even out of a tea-party, a few days later opted for a bit of rock-throwing, pillage & burning in Santa Cruz itself, just for a bit of fun.
How this was allowed to spiral into something that scared many Bolivians for a few days last October that it could escalate into a battle at Viru Viru or even civil war, goes to demonstrate how the opposition has had a hand in firing up anatagonism. They knew damn well what was actually going on at Viru Viru, but preferred to play into the hands of their rabble.
Another whacky page in Bolivia's history I know. Which includes, unfortunately, the darker violent episodes I mentioned above, whether we like it or not.
Those who have trouble accepting this win the right to one last metaphor, something about the teapot calling the kettle black...
Boy, Boli-Nica your verbiage is endless.
Although I am not a great fan of Morales he is doing more than the “civic leaders” (Autonomy Vultures) of the Media Luna. While the Media Luna “civics” (e.g. *Marinkovic) clamor for their head of Cattle and the “business” they lost, Morales and his administration are asking for world help to help the affected people.
*“Marinkovic, un próspero industrial y poseedor de 26.000 hectáreas de tierras fértiles y lagunas en el norte del departamento de Santa Cruz, preside una organización integrada por empresarios, terratenientes, exportadores y grupos de derecha, que se ha constituido en la principal oposición al gobierno nacional del indígena aymara Evo Morales. ” (Glocalia.com)
Regarding your so called “democratic” gathering of signatures, Erbol Digital and other Bolivian newspapers reported that some municipalities are “requesting signatures” before paying out wages and, most recently, urging flood victims to sign in favor of autonomy before receiving aid.
Alberto Quispe Huallpa
What's wrong with being a prosperous industrialist? What's Glocalia.com's bias? Hey, Jimbo...tell us how you feel about the Iranians setting up TV stations in Bolivia. Will we get to see Evo's buddies broadcast hangings of teenage gay kids, stonings of adulterous women, or virulently anti-semitic harangues?
Probably not galloglass, but no doubt you'll tell us if they do.
Nothing necessarily wrong with being a prosperous industrialist by the way. In a normal country with a level playing field, an open market, & laws that are obeyed.
Ofcourse, if you've amassed your fortune on the backs of everyone else, brokering deals with corrupt politicians that gave you more land than you can see in a week, more money than you can count in a month & more power than you can possibly imagine in even your silliest dreams...
a few miserable poor indios somewhere might feel a bit sore about it, but we can overlook that too if you like.
bolinica + galloglass + bolivligre = @#$%% and FULL of it
Amazing liers without decency ethics or morals. They could easily pimp their wifes without any qualms, if enough dollars are placed on their double mouths with forked tongues.
Shame on them, racists, who hate jews and natives as they considered them not good enough for their masters 'the neo nazis, uncle Toms, malinches, blancos wanabes.
Sorry bunch of ignorants.
Who said anything about Jews?? Evo's the one sucking up to the Persian neo-Nazis. Why does the fact that we want a modern, liberal, transparent social democracy with equality for all in Bolivia anger and threaten you so much? Why must people who disagree with you be pimps, racists, buggerers, etc.?
Do those of us who appear to be so concerned about who may have the right to broadcast in Bolivia actually know WHO IS BROADCASTING NOW?
Its it squeaky clean industrialists that made it up the hard way from rags to riches? Is it folk whose only interest is to provide Bolivians with impartial information? People with no other interests to defend? No political connections? No hidden agenda?
Here's a few of them (with just some of the media & other properties they've owned) ...
1. OSVALDO MONASTERIO - Empresario cruceño, ex Senador del MNR de Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada , propietario del Banco Ganadero, criador de ganado Nelore a gran escala y dueño de extensos terrenos de producción soyera.
- Red Televisiva UNITEL
- 9 canales en ciudades capitales y 41 repetidoras en poblaciones intermedias.
2. RAUL GARAFULIC - Uno de los grandes imperios mediáticos en Bolivia ha sido construido (y también destruido) por uno de los magnates, descendiente de croatas, Raúl Garáfulic Gutiérrez. Hombre de negocios que se vinculó con la minería y hábilmente fue ganando espacio en círculos diplomáticos y empresariales, hasta llegar a la presidencia del entonces dictador Hugo Bánzer Suárez quien le confió la dirección del Canal estatal. En 1985 y con el apoyo de Banzer logra crear su propio medio de comunicación y es designado embajador en España donde logra crear lazos con empresarios españoles. Este sería el inicio de la sociedad con el grupo español PRISA.
GRUPO PRISA incluye:
- Red Televisiva BOLIVISION
- ATB
- La Razon
- El Nuevo Dia
- Extra
- Revista Cosas
- El Pais
- Portal Bolivia.com
- La Gaceta Juridica
3. IVO KULJIS - Agroindustrial cruceño, promotor de la Universidad privada de Bolivia (UPB) y dueño de industrias Kupel (papel higiénico y derivados); ex candidato vicepresidencial con Carlos Palenque (Condepa, 1993), Jonnhy Fernández (UCS, 1997) y Manfred Reyes Villa (2002).
- Red Televisiva UNO
- Canal 42
- Canal Infantil Magico
4. Los CANELAS - RIVERO: tradicionales famílias de Cochabamba y Santa Cruz ligadas al periodismo, arman una cadena con periódicos en ocho ciudades importantes del país.
El Deber, Los Tiempos, Correo del Sur, Gente, La Prensa, El Potosi, El Alteno, El Norte, El Nuevo Sur
Also affiliated to Red Televisiva PAT.
5. JHONNY FERNANDEZ, heredó de su padre Max Fernández la mayor parte de las acciones de la Cervecería Boliviana Nacional y la jefatura del partido político de corte populista UCS, también fundado por su padre. Fue alcalde de la ciudad de Santa Cruz por ese partido y candidato a la presidencia. La alcaldía fue traspasada a su hermano Roberto Fernández y después ambos se postularon a la alcaldía el año 2005. Jhonny Fernández perdió y se alejó del espectro político y su hermano Roberto pese a haber obtenido el primer lugar no ejerció el cargo porque los concejales determinaron otorgar el cargo a Percy Fernández (sin ninguna relación con la família Fernández).
Red Televisiva SITEL
La Estrella del Oriente
12 radio stations
6. ERNESTO ASBUN - Principal accionista, dueño del Shoping Norte de La Paz y otras empresas; ex socio de RAUL GARAFULIC en el diario Opinión, ATB y en la cuestionada compra de acciones de la capitalizada LAB a la brasileña VASP. Inicialmente se asocian, canales regionales como ANTENA UNO CANAL 6 de Cochabamba, CANAL 2 TELESISTEMA BOLIVIANO de La Paz, CANAL 4 GALAVISIÓN de Santa Cruz y otros medios televisivos del interior del país, posteriormente, en diciembre del mismo año, el directorio de ANTENA UNO bajo la dirección del Ing. Ernesto Asbún, decide iniciar una nueva etapa adquiriendo CANAL 4 de Santa Cruz. En 1997, se suman a este proyecto CANAL 5 de la Sede de Gobierno, CANAL 5 en Oruro, CANAL 4 en Tarija, CANAL 2 en Trinidad, CANAL 5 en Potosí, CANAL 9 en Sucre y CANAL 9 en Cobija. Con la unión y adquisición de todos estos medios, el 17 de junio de 1997 se constituye la empresa BOLIVISION S.R.L.,con el objetivo de ser una nueva opción de entretenimiento información y educación.
El empresario Ernesto Asbún, es el accionista principal y presidente de la línea aérea capitalizada Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano y con inversiones en el Colegio Americano, la cervecera Taquiña de Cochabamba y empresas de envases. Actualmente está enfrentando una serie de denuncias sobre el mal manejo del LAB lo que ha desencadenado un paro indefinido de mencionada línea aérea y que ha producido la destitución de un viceministro y el superintendente de Transportes. Como respuesta al conflicto, Asbún hace uso de sus medios (la red televisiva Bolivisión) para pregonar su supuesta inocencia. A raíz del conflicto, Asbún tiene orden de arraigo por la acusación de dano económico al LAB y atentado contra la seguridad del transporte. La prensa nacional le está dando gran cobertura ocupando para ello portadas enteras de periódicos locales y nacionales. Es importante destacar que la compra del LAB también fue manipulada a través de los medios, “El grupo Garáfulic, predecesor del Grupo Prisa, es un ejemplo típico del uso comercial de los medios de comunicación: para posibilitar la compra del Lloyd Aéreo Boliviano acudió a una campaña desacreditadora de esta empresa entonces estatal en sus medios”
In addition to Bolivision & other channels mentioned above also owned Radio Cadena Nacional, Opinion national newspaper & Canal 5 La Paz.
7. JUAN CARLOS DURAN, destacado dirigente del MNR, ha sido jefe regional de este partido en Santa Cruz. Ha desempeñado importantes cargos en la esfera pública: Ministro de Estado, diputado, senador, presidente de la Cámara de Diputados (cunando se aprobó la ley de la nacionalización de hidrocarburos) prefecto del departamento de Santa Cruz. Además fue candidato a la presidencia. En la actualidad es uno de los principales candidatos para ocupar la jefatura del MNR.
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El Mundo newspaper
JUST SEVEN PEOPLE. But reads like a Who's Who of pretty much every single Bolivian media, interwtined with most of the private economy of any value & political parties & figures of note.
Dis anyone say the "oligarchy" word? Naaaaah!
Nb. To avoid undue embarassment no mention will be made here as to the land these people own in Bolivia.
Or the assets they possess abroad.
Or how they got them. And from whom.
Just feel free to draw your own conclusions.
And maybe think a little change could be in order?
galloglass says that he wants " a modern, liberal, transparent social democracy with equality for all in Bolivia "
You must be on drugs man. You and your people had two hundred years and did nothing productive. How can Bolivia be modern if the putocrats stole, raped the laws, assesinated, tortured, anybody who just spoke a word of dissagrement.
Equality for all? The opposition was eliminated by the facists like your uncles Banzer, Garcia Meza, Barrientos, and then your relatives like Goni, tuto, Manfred, Mono Paz, and the Miristas who run a drug cartel from the palace.
Your people were transparent?, Were they social democrats? You are so wrong and you lie to yourself so much that you actually believe your lies.
You are upset because your people are not milking the country as you did it for hundreds of years.
Costas/Bolas, Marincon ick are just other thieves and you seem to be one of their cronies. Chill puppet.
So what's your point? There's a certain incestuousness among press barons, the wealthy, and the political class? Stop the presses!! You'll find that in any country. Are the masses like lemmings, blindly following what Branko, Ruben, and the editorial page of El Deber say? They're all conspiring...gimme a break..do you want some of Branko's land? Do you know how to farm? Look at Chavez's and Mugabe's land "reforms".Can you raise soya for production?
What's with this Croat-phobia? While we're at it, those Japanese in Santa Cruz are interlopers and usurpers...let's kick them out too.
Galloglass,
from what i've seen of what you've written i don't personally think you're in the same bracket as Boli-Nica (fanner of flames sitting in his underpants with dubious company in Miami & actually quite a bit more cuckoo than might seem to the casual reader or innocent obeserver) or Bolivia-Libre (went ga-ga a long time ago, a shame because he occasionally had something useful to say & often an original way of putting it).
Let's just say you seem probably well-intended but probably misguided (understandable, not easy to get objective inputs in Bolivia).
Just to test that hypothesis, following your
we want a modern, liberal, transparent social democracy with equality for all in Bolivia
could you please, in the context of the above 6.46 & 8.08 postings, comment on the following 3 questions:
1. You really think Bolivia is a "modern, liberal transparent social democracy with equality for all"?
2. You really think nothing needs to be changed?
3. You really think these changes won't piss off the very few with a bit to lose, to the extent that they may have the rest of us believe - through their hold on the media, the opposition etc etc -that those introducing this change are a lot more than dangerous than they actually are? That countering what these few say is necessary to re-dressing the balance?
Just curious.
Oh shit Galloglass.
At 8.32 you appear to have destroyed my hypothesis. And my faith in you.
You'll find that in any country !?!?!?!
No Gallo no!!! Having 6 people run the economy, politics & media of a whole country - particularly a "modern, liberal, transparent social democracy" - is NOT normal man nooooooo!
Mercy me. Please clarify or requalify your statements in some way.
One with faith in intelligent Bolivians. Until now anyway. Yikes.
Anon: Questions 1 & 2. No, Bolivia is not a transparent, liberal democracy. But there's no reason it can't be. Many things need to be changed. Respect for the rule of law, the culture of corruption, and perhaps a bit of monopoly busting. However, I don't think the cure for what ails Bolivia is the MAS/Evo remedy. Evo should institute some of DeSoto's ideas and get Bolivia into the 21st century. However, this goes against MAS' collectivist tendencies. About media control: I watch Unitel, Bolivision, PAT, and read almost all the papers.Unitel, El Deber, and the Estrella del Oriente all have a bias. Do they frame the news a certain way? Can Unitel be pretty yellow in its journalism? Sure, but so are Indymedia, the Nation, and Telesur at times.
I do not think that these 6 media barons and the sway they may have can compete with the economic powers that be behind the Eloy Salmon street, the Narcos, or even the ropa usada union.
Bolivia is in dire need for change, but Evo is not the leader the Blog and most of his supporters proclaim. Sadly most of these people tend to share the same bipolar disease as Bush and think that you are either with them or against them.
Evo's trademark political strategy has been confrontation, racism, and a nihilistic anti-everythin...lest we forget that he is a johnny-come-late-fair-weather-johnson in the whole cosmovision thing. Any rational opposition group cannot possibly trust this guy in a dialogue table. He never lived up to his word as a cocalero. He even drafted the hidrocarbon law he later movilized people against. How can you trust this guy?
I have nothing kind to say also about a estatuto that was drafted in a secret conclave to which 99.99% of cambas were not invited.
Unfortunately the Democracy Center is far to ideological to truly care about building democracy from the ground up.
Hopefully Bolivia can resolve these issues peacefully. Looking at Kosovo and Kenya, I'm somewhat pessimistic. It's had since 1825 to forge a national identity, but many Bolivians still identify as Quechua, Aymara, Camba, or Chapaco first. I don't know if the demands of MAS and the Media Luna can be "compatibilized" to use the Linera neologism. The two visions are oil and water. Ordinary mestizo crucenos, benianos, and tarijenos (who are completely westernized) rightly or wrongly fear that MAS wants to turn back the clock 500 years.
IVO KULJIS -ex candidato vicepresidencial con Carlos Palenque (Condepa, 1993), Jonnhy Fernández (UCS, 1997) y Manfred Reyes Villa (2002)....JUAN CARLOS DURAN, destacado dirigente del MNR, ha sido jefe regional de este partido en Santa Cruz. Ha desempeñado importantes cargos en la esfera pública: Ministro de Estado, diputado, senador, presidente de la Cámara de
JHONNY FERNANDEZ, heredó de su padre la jefatura del partido político de corte populista UCS, también fundado por su padre. Fue alcalde de la ciudad de Santa Cruz por ese partido y candidato a la presidencia
OSVALDO MONASTERIO - Empresario cruceño, ex Senador del MNR de Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada ,
RAUL GARAFULIC -hábilmente fue ganando espacio en círculos diplomáticos y empresariales, hasta llegar a la presidencia del entonces dictador Hugo Bánzer Suárez quien le confió la dirección del Canal estatal.
LOL what is your point?
A couple of MNRistas, an ADN guy, and out of the blue, "Compadre Palenque's" VP candidate and Max
Fernandez' kid. How is that for a media conspiracy?
Compadre Palenque (particularly in El Alto) and Max created the media-driven, populist "outsider" "anti-politics" line in Bolivia, that Evo filled when they died.
they helped to weaken the traditional parties. And for good or bad, they helped spur a competitive and lively press.
This collection of oligarchs, does not play well together.
I hear the dismay and disgust of the eastern districts, and the passion of the indios.
For the love of God, can't these opposing factions have open public dialogue?
All problems have solutions.
Here in the US we now have paramilitary with shoot to kill orders in the event of martial law.
Kathleen
what r u talking about??
ever hear of posse comitatus?
Yes, posse commitatus has been over-ridden (according to Democracy Now!, awardwinning international alternative news)as of several weeks ago. When the current nomination for Sec of Defense or whatever was confirmed, pos. com. was the big topic.
It is so ugly I am leaving the US within a week to work on organic WWOOF farms.
I always side with people power and peace and justice, over the interests of big money, including "security" and warmongering and disaster capitalism.
Kathleen -
Here in the US we now have paramilitary with shoot to kill orders in the event of martial law.
LOL, you're hysterical. In both senses of the word.
Yes, posse commitatus has been over-ridden (according to Democracy Now!, awardwinning international alternative news)as of several weeks ago.
And "Democracy Now!" seems to have as tenuous a grip on reality as you do.
When the current nomination for Sec of Defense or whatever was confirmed...
Your extreme lack of precision doesn't help your case.
It is so ugly I am leaving the US within a week to work on organic WWOOF farms.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
In the United States, a Federal statute known as the Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of the military of the United States as a posse comitatus or for law enforcement purposes.
The practical disuse of the posse comitatus, and its continued twilight existence as a theoretical legal power, is, like the militia, a subject for the debates about the meaning of the U.S. Constitution Second Amendment.
Anon 9.45, thanks for coming back.
Bolivia is not a transparent, liberal democracy.
Ok, that’s a start I suppose. A concession well beyond what many posters on this blog would be willing to make.
But there's no reason it can't be.
Umm. How about the fact that those at the top of the heap have no reason for wanting to let this happen?
Many things need to be changed.
Yup. Problem is a few very powerful don’t want this at all, & a significant amount of others have lost the courage to attempt it.
Respect for the rule of law, the culture of corruption, and perhaps a bit of monopoly busting.
Sounds frighteningly similar to many of the things one hears from Evo. Yikes.
However, I don't think the cure for what ails Bolivia is the MAS/Evo remedy.
Could even (partly) agree with you on that. But let’s try to move this forward one step. Evo’s not the problem right (we’ve established what these are already & they’ve always been present in Bolivia.) He’s just not the right solution to the problem. So who is? Any suggestion welcome. Needs to be acceptable to the majority of Bolivians though to be viable, the type of people who don’t have a habit of posting on this blog, or even owning or having access to a computer. And may have radically different points of view. In the absence of any viable alternative, I’m at a loss too Anon but, if only to be practical, suggest working with Evo rather than totally against. Start by breaking with those at the top of the heap. Or crazy bloggers if smaller steps help.
Evo should institute some of DeSoto's ideas and get Bolivia into the 21st century.
A somewhat vague prescription. Will read up on DeSoto. In the meantime do note that Bolivia is already in the 21st Century, albeit running on 19th Century wealth-power-influence hardware. Version of software completely meaningless unless hardware fundamentally revamped. Even Wordstar Version 2.0 won’t work on a 200 year old typewriter. Pointless to complain about lack of Windows XP. Suggest chucking away old hardware. Painful but necessary.
However, this goes against MAS' collectivist tendencies.
A problem for those of us unconvinced by collectivist tendencies I daresay. Weigh up against risks of not allowing the majority – deluded though they may be – the right to try an idea of their own. Piss-poor success record of alternatives tried so far in Bolivia by the rest of us grants no rights to moral high-ground, much less to continued monopoly on the process.
About media control: I watch Unitel, Bolivision, PAT, and read almost all the papers.Unitel, El Deber, and the Estrella del Oriente all have a bias. Do they frame the news a certain way? Can Unitel be pretty yellow in its journalism? Sure, but so are Indymedia, the Nation, and Telesur at times.
“Media control” isn’t the issue. Control of pretty much every thing that counts in Bolivia is more like it. Those experiencing difficulties grasping this point may be suffering more “partiality” issues than they care to admit. Prescribe 5 years of living in indigenous community with access only to Indymedia for information. Hell, I know. But likely to modify point of view. Even marginally. Which is a useful start. Builds comprehension, element currently sorely lacking. Pet project while you’re away: work on the software with them indios (find or build a new & better Evo). In the meantime, take comfort in the knowledge some of us will keep chipping away at that need to dump the hardware.
Now let’s go back to the top & start again.
Bolivia is not a transparent liberal democracy. Hey, maybe we just found a good conversation-opener with your new indio buddies?
Ok, go on… we almost got a bit of dialogue finally working, jeez..
how on earth did that happen?
Jhonny Fernandez is an anomaly on that list Boli-Nica. I left him on it by virtue of it showing how even new (at the time) populist media in Bolivia could make inroads into the system only with the help of a lot of daddy’s money & political party, not to mention the family’s political connections. You seem to imply that this is evidence of the plurality & opportunities in the system. I argue the exact opposite. Very few (any?) representatives of the majority in Bolivia can count on a rich & powerful Daddy, an inherited political party, their own media group, a job as Mayor in one of Bolivia’s 2 biggest cities, & fewer still (none) are credible as defenders of the under-privileged.
Stuck in a wedge between the truly powerful established oligarchy & an unrepresented majority desperately looking for someone – anyone - to give them a bigger say in things, even privileged wannabes were destined to enjoy Andy Warhol’s 15 minutes of fame & not much more.
That’s why when MAS came along they found such fertile turf, fertile enough to become in a few years the biggest party in Bolivia & blow the existing party system away.
Your dismissal of the Monasterios, Asbuns, Garafulic & company as “a couple of MNRistas & an ADN guy” merits little comment.
A bit rich though from someone who appears to laud Palenque’s & Max’s “spurring of a competitive & lively press”. And all too typical of those who from one side of their mouth purport to desire a fairer Bolivia, but the moment this means actually changing something flee for cover.
Have the courage to stand by your convictions Boli-Nica. Or be honest & admit that the most you’d accept for the poor in Bolivia is a sham of representation, sufficient to keep them quiet without actually changing anything, & your conscience clean.
In any debate about US military power, the facts are determined by a hidden elite. The rest is entertainment. US/Canada are now a military zone per mostly unreported presidential directive. To learn more, go to democracynow.org. This story was on Tuesday, 2 weeks ago. Kathleen
It is more difficult to find those who are willing to identify themselves as part of the problem, and accept or create change - than to hear from those who complain or make sweeping statements with no specifics.
I am coming to Bolivia but lack a visa. Does anyone know if I can apply for one in Argentina or Ecuador, or even Mexico, rather than here?
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