Saturday, March 01, 2008

A Strikingly Bad Way to Make (and Not Make) Laws

There is of course, the old saying – Laws are like sausages; you never want to see either of them being made. With that in mind the ongoing Bolivian political drama of drafting a new national constitution is starting to make sausage-making look attractive.

Last year it was the opposition’s turn to set democracy aside. Adversaries of President Morales used street violence and physical and verbal assaults on MAS delegates to bring a two-month halt to the Constituent Assembly process in Sucre. In the end delegates there (absent the opposition) took up work, controversially, in an army base. It was an interesting strategy by the opposition -- first make it impossible for the Assembly to do its job and then declare that the Assemblky is useless because it isn;t doing its job.

Thursday in La Paz MAS took a turn at legislating-while-intimidating. It surrounded the Congress with large crowds from social movements sympathetic to the government, preventing, often violently, many opposition members from being in their seats when lawmakers voted on and approved holding a nationwide vote on the MAS-backed constitution. That May 4th vote would decide the political fate of both the new constitution and a separate provision capping the maximum size of landholdings in Bolivia.

Predictably, Morales and MAS proclaimed the vote a victory for “democracy and unity”, while opponents lambasted it as “illegitimate” and an abuse of power.

Anyone who has followed Bolivian politics longer than six months will also note that the shut-the-process-down strategy did not start with the opposition/move-the-capital crowd last year. Protests by dynamite-wielding Potosi miners outside an emergency session of Congress in Sucre in 2005 was a key reason that Senate President Vaca Diez did not take over from President Carlos Mesa when he stepped down. Then of course one could go back further and trace the lineage in even more extreme forms to Generals with tanks engaging in various rounds of unpleasant “regime change” in the 1960s and 1970s.

Today, the rival arguments, in a nutshell, are these:

MAS

From the start, the opposition has never been interested in negotiating a new constitution. It has been interested in blocking a new constitution – by demanding a minority veto on every provision and procedural vote, by exploding Sucre to the point where the Assembly couldn’t meet, and now by holding up the convening of an election to give the people a chance to vote and express their will. So, we either had to let them stop the process or rally our support and move without them. And in the end the people will decide on the constitution for themselves.

The Opposition

MAS isn’t nearly so interested in equality and democracy as it is in re-writing all of the rules of governance to strengthen their hold on power and to perpetuate that hold. Fist it rammed through a constitution without the opposition in the room and now they have rammed through legislation to bring that MAS-only constitution to a vote. While the new Constitution doesn’t give MAS everything it wanted, like unlimited chances at reelection for Morales, it lays the groundwork for giving them everything they want later by allowing future changes to be approved by just a simple majority of the Congress. MAS is pushing Bolivian democracy to the edge of a dangerous precipice.

And both the arguments above are a lot more true than not true. Hence Bolivia is headed toward very dangerous waters ahead. Again.

What next? A big question is this – will the opposition set aside its declarations of illegitimacy and illegality and fight for a NO vote in May, or will it boycott that vote? Both strategies are risky for the opposition, and you can bet there will be meetings all over Bolivia this weekend trying to decide what to do.

“Polarized” is now a word that fits Bolivia as a description the way “Butt-freezing cold” might apply to Minnesota in January.

Why is that? One reason is that, in a country where very old economic and political power arrangements are in historic play, the stakes are high and conflict is inevitable. Yet another is that both the opposition and the government seem hell bent to do everything they can to make the gap between them wider by the day.

Photo: A PODEMOS Congress member tries to make her way into the Congress building, Los Tiempos.

69 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a series of critiques being authored by Jorge Lazarte that expose just how ridiculous the new CPE is. There are several articles that are in direct violation of the Declaration of Human rights. Anyone who is interested in knowing what is going on, would be well served by reading these series of articles:

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080227_006195/nota_246_555093.htm

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080213_006181/nota_246_547761.htm

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080206_006174/nota_246_544422.htm

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080130_006167/nota_246_541121.htm

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080123_006160/nota_246_537489.htm

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080116_006153/nota_246_533902.htm


Contrary to what many would want you to believe, some of us repudiate the MAS' CPE, not because we want to protect the despicable racists elites in the lowlands, but because we believe that all human beings are created equal, we believe in one person, one vote, we believe in equal protection under the law, we believe in people being innocent until proven guilty.

However, what makes the MAS CPE even more despicable is the fact that 95% of those 'constituyentes' that voted for it, have not even read it, did not even have access to the final draft.

My two personal favorite aspects of the new CPE: it will make criminals of all chapacos by outlawing their lazyness, and the article that will ban most of medicines, by outlawing all products of genetic engineering. I guess Bolivia will become No Country for Old Diabetic Chapacos.....

3:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the Mazis came for the oligarchs,
I remained silent;
I was not a Oligarch.

When they locked up the opposition democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a opposition democrat.

When they came for the criollos,
I did not speak out;
I was not a criollo.

When they came for the mestizos,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a mestizo.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What has happen in La Paz has NO name. EVO Morales and the MAS have crucified thenselves, this time to many all over the country. It turns out that the ·cambio· is lies, violence, division, murder, hate between people etc. etc.
"Poncho Rojos" who the hell do they think they are???? Payed by the MAS to do stupid things and be violent.
MAS and Evo LIR to all and pass everything under threats. Democracy.... they don't know what it means, nor Socialisims. They are Bullies, Mean and Ugly and cause us to hate, everything they so. I now see him on TV and switch him OFF. So do many. Do we vote for the new Constitution. I hope we the people are NOT STUPID, and do so. We need a new Consitution but NOT the one MAS has made up and forced upon us, nor the other one from the (Media Luna), but one that is is made by WISE men or women who know what a Constitution should be like.... for a country like Bolivia. After what was shown on TV the past days. we donot want a Bolivia run by idiots in the name of Socialism. MAS and Evo have turned out to be barbarians.
Cochabamba.....

4:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They gave you a taste of your own medicine in La Paz, dum dums.
What the mercenaries in Santa Cruz, Cochabamaba and Sucre have done is worse than what happen yesterday. Two women set up by the reactionary TV and press to show the OEA how she insulted the crows as dirty indians and naturally she was called a puta and push over.
What was doen in Sucre, Santa Cruz, Cochabamba was criminal but you rich people say nothing, because you are used to beat up indians day and night. So what is to kill a niger or an indian. Nothing for you abusive idiots. You are the eternal bullies, how you set up a bunch of people is like what the republicans are doing seting up Obama and Clinton for failure.
After all you have the money to play around with lies, sold out press and nothing but a comedy of lies, like in Iraq, and elsewhere in the world. Remember how Allende was set up by events so similar to Bolivia now? How quickly we forget. You people are criminals and liers basically the Civioos are the scum of human beings.
Crying babies now. Let us not play if you do not pass the ball to me, afterall I own the ball. Typical of crying babies of rich people. No decency, to accept defeat in the polls. If you are so strong and people hate Evo Morales, why don't you vote in the referendum? Cowards of the world united in the Medial Luna.

7:17 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

So you're saying you want the Media Luna to secede, Anonymous 7:17 p.m.?

7:42 PM  
Blogger BOLIVIA LIBRE said...

Must be sad for you Jim seeing how your ideal of democracy trough violent movement in the street is just another way of rising tyrants. I more or less can read your deception even if you want to camouflage it with the idea that the democratic fighters in congress didn’t want to move things around for the better of the country.

You, and obviously ano 7:17 PM didn’t want to mention that not only this self inflicted Coup de Etat by the maSSist was used to push the voting for their proposed constitution; at the same time they moved forward to, according to them, interpret the referendum law so the Santa Cruz autonomic proposal cannot go to the urns. Now, that is what I call fear from one side and misinformation from your side.

You ask what is the opposition going to do, it is going to revolt off course; there is nothing else to talk about, public disobedience is the next step and a counter revolution. We Bolivians have shown, for ever, that we have no stomach for tyrants. You can make sure is going to take a lot more than the Bolivian army and police, if they stay under Evo’s command, to stop the Santa Cruz referendum. I doubt the democracy fighters are going to oppose the referendum for the maSSist constitution, it is going to loose at least in half of the country and it has very few possibilities to win a majority in the whole country, since Evo’s middle class in La Paz and the university students have deserted him. The Santa Cruz referendum for autonomy in the other hand; is going to win by a landslide of votes, and the regime knows and fears it.

Ano 7:17 PM, thank you for your participation, your hate, racism and fear is so obvious that your words have the power to make people understand the hate and prejudice of Evo and his zealots. There is no possible excuse for this Coup de Etat to Bolivian democracy and the violence to the 2 women legislator by mostly cowardly male miners; that is why a full maSSist supported like Jim had to more or less denounce it.

I wander what your writings will be if Gorge Bush decides to take a few hundred of his extremist partisans plus some KKK and the ones in the NRA, orders the police not to intervene and takes congress. Kicking the shit out of the Democrats, not letting them inside and not letting the few ones to manage to get inside to speak and then pass all those laws he is crying about the Democrats are not letting them pass. I am sure you will not be using against the Democrats the same adjectives you are using against the maSSist opposition; are you capable to see your prejudice?

11:19 PM  
Anonymous Poncho Emputado said...

What has happen in La Paz has NO name. EVO Morales and the MAS have crucified thenselves, this time to many all over the country

Nope! they have not crucified themselves my friend.

You can bet donuts to dollars this will happen again.

You see, this action of surrounding the congress so that only MAS people get in and make laws has happened at least 3 times already under Evo's presidency.

Obiously this happens because we still don't have a judicial body to take care of law suits against these unjustices.

What are we, the rest of thinking Bolivia doing to stop this obvious illegality? (ano 7:17, you are not in this group).

Do we vote for the new Constitution. I hope we the people are NOT STUPID, and do so

Careful here!

We all know that, what MAS is doing is illegal regarding the CPE(we don't have to be rich to know this ano 7:17). But! and this is a big BUT, if we decide not to vote because we know it is illegal, then, the referendum vote would go beyond 2/3 of approval for the 2 referendums MAS just approved.

We all have to go to vote with a big NO against MAS' CPE...to let know the irrational Lineras that everything they did regarding the MAS CPE is ILLEGAL.

Moreover, it is time for us, the Bolivians, that we had been labeled as oligarch all this time, to do something.

Let's use the internet. let's bring all the rational people to congress in La Paz.

let's sorround congress and we will not allow any MAS congress person in.

Let's buy "suplentes" to make the minimun quorum.

Then, in few hours, let's make a law to allow congressional session in Santa Cruz.

And yes ano 7:17. I am filty rich, and it is time i started to use the money I made with my own efforts to organize an action FROM the people FOR the people, and against irrationals like you...pinche masista!

PonchoEmputado

PS. you will here more of my proposals on your emails.

12:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to take a moment and thank anon 7:17 for posting. Thanks for showing to the worldwide audience of this blog just the type of zealots MAS is creating.

You are so full of hate, misinformed, have no qualms in using the n-word, and perhaps most notably you are showing the trademark of the Evo regime: de-humanizing anyone who dares think differently. Your mission is not noble, you don't seek equality but revenge, you don't seek to build a country where all Bolivians can co-exist as the brothers that we are, but want a country only for a select few.

What worries me, is that your rhetoric is similar to the speeches one finds on the video-tapes from muslin suicide bombers: a nonsensical rant that makes very little sense.

I actually hope that this is a Bolivia Libre post, trying to discredit the MAS's supporters.

1:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evo Morales' and his bunch are the most inept bunch of fascists in Bolivia since, well ... Che and his little group were decimated over 40 years ago.

The Croats are Morales' Jews.
Beni is Morales' Katrina.

9:08 AM  
Blogger BOLIVIA LIBRE said...

Ano 1:06, you will not catch me writing as an ano, I do have my reputation and like my alias; only the Bolivia Libre posts with a link to my web page are of my writing. Sorry to disappoint you but the ano 7:17 PM is most likely one of Evo’s zealots; the rhetoric is very similar to what they shout in the street.

12:37 PM  
Anonymous noshitsherlock said...

Isn't the point rather lost in Jim's final paragraph that this fight is not about legal definitions of democracy. It is of course a fight about "economic power."

Of course MAS has broken some of the "democratic" rules and used public pressure to get laws through from land reform to now the constitution. But equally the Right in blocking the Assembly from meeting in Sucre, in beating up campesinos in Santa Cruz square, in saying they won't allow a referendum to happen is equally happy to ignore democracy when it suits them.

The real fight is one over resources. Is it just a coincidence that the opposition Prefects (dominated by large landowners eg Marinkovich, Monasterios etc) have said they want the referendum to be about where the capital is rather than the maximum allowed landholdings? Is it a coincidence that their statutes allow departments to freely concede natural resources to multinationals and deprive indigenous communities (where many gas fields are to be found) from exercising any effective veto even if they bear all the environmental and social costs of extractive policies? No of course not. CONALDE is dominated by businessmen, landowners and recycled politicians who sold Bolivia for a pittance for years. But the hysterical right-wing nutters here will never address that question about who are the people who are supposedly championing democracy. They will never talk about the fact that there is no democracy in the media (which freely rants and raves against Evo in this supposed "dictatorship"), in the country's main companies, in the universities or all the other power centres of the elite who won't even accept moderate change.

The bigger question is if you can really deliver a real democracy where everyone is included economically and socially under the rules of "representative democracy". The experience in Bolivia and the attitudes of some of the commenters in this blog who squeal at any sign of change sadly suggests not.

2:31 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Hey Sherlock,

The rules of the game are that you get to vote for someone who will represent your interests in congress. You'll find the rules in the current constition of Bolivia. There are literally millions of Bolivians who had this right to representation denied them by the dictatorial machinations of Juan Evo Morales Aima. Morales didn't "break some democratic rules"; he undermined the basic law of the land - the constitution. He does this repeatedly because he does not respect the current constitution - never has. He does not respect democratic rule - never has. He supports getting things his way "by any means necessary". His criminal actions should be, and likely will be at some future date, held accountable.

Occasionally Juan Evo pulls a stunt so outrageous that even Jim feels compelled to denounce it in a watered down form. Unfortunately he also feels that he must balance it by draggging out some perceived wrong of the opposition. Jim, this is one time you really ought to just come out and call a spade a spade.

4:05 PM  
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5:00 AM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

Isn't the point rather lost in Jim's final paragraph that this fight is not about legal definitions of democracy. It is of course a fight about "economic power."

Ummm NSS.. I have a huge issue with the tired story of the "oligarchy" excluding the poor & indigenous from power for centuries. Reading you and Jim, you would think these Cambas had been running the country since independence.

BOLIVIA IS NOT EL SALVADOR..Chaos, factionalism, regionalism, and a world record number of regime changes, never allowed any sort of national elite to sustain the sort of hegemonic control needed to produce a proper oligarchy. Political and economic elites, did reach the top and wield power, but had to work to lock out the displaced elites. And to do so, they competed for attention of the military, politicians, middle class, workers, even indigenous groups. Nothing really got done. Even the fabled "Rosca" had trouble forcing any stabiliy, and faded from the scene.
Santa Cruz agro-industrialists are just another powerful faction of many that have cycled through Bolivian history. And that is Bolivia: factions at odds with each-other, in a deadlock, until some huge traumatic crisis re-arranges the playing board. Exclusion of the indigenous from political life, is not the deliberate work of a tiny minority, it is the result of the chaos created by a majority.

10:40 AM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

And reading their posts, you'd think that the gas fields were in the Altiplano, not the Chaco.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it very interesting that MAS haters such as Norman, Frank and Bolivia Libre are silent on Jim's comments on the opposition's unwillingness to compromise and their undemocratic interference with the constitutional assembly process. The hypocracy of their Evo bashing is obvious.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry anon, but there has never been an honest offer to compromise by the MAS. If you do know of one, please share it with us, but as far as I know this has never happened.

The only time I can recall at the moment is when the mayority and minority reports where due. The mayority report reflected the mainstream MAS point of view, and the minority report reflect the view of the radicals within the MAS. MAS did offer as a compromise the mayority report instead of the minority....hardly an honest negotiation.

3:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is "undemocratic" here is the constitutional assembly process, which exists only thanks to the violence and intimidation on defenseless women and other civilians by part of Morales' Storm Troopers.

I don't hate the MAS. I really don't. I just wind it weird they feel so lonely they have to resort to look at monolitos and other stones in unnatural ways.

The Croats are Morales' Jews.
Beni is Morales' Katrina.

3:39 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Anon 1:30,
I understand not going back to previous posts to see what's been said before, but I have voiced disagreement when I felt the opposition had undermined the current constitution. I'm less of a MAS hater than I am a supporter of human rights and the rule of law. I despise violations of rights by anyone, so when the opposition blocks roads and prevents fre transit, I'm opposed. When individuals take on themselves to beat up on indigenous, I'm opposed. Your comment though, and Jim's post are simply distractions from Morales' actions. He uses thuggery to silence legally elected representatives. Were his actions illegal or not? Were his actions comtemptible or not? Leave comparisons out of it; were they wrong or not? Should Morales respect the current constitution? Should he allow your representatives to represent you? Aren't you the least concerned when Don Evo decides who gets to be represented and who doesn't?

5:09 PM  
Blogger Boli-Nica said...

the 2/3rds debate took a lot of time, but it had major implications. Setting the percentage of votes needed for making major changes to a nation's document is huge. There was precedent there, Bolivia's existing constitution mentions two-thirds twenty-three times.
The Sucre thing was downright goofy, but the government should have simply included it in the agenda for discussion. The assembly was vested with powers to discuss any constitutional issue. Instead the government agressively rejected it, the opposition found a nice do-nothing excuse, and Sucre's residents became enraged they were not even being considered in the Constitutional convention held in their city.

What is surprising is that MAS could not even come up with a coherent, boiler-plate constitution, like the Civicos did. instead it looks like they took the MAS government plan and background text, and cut and paste it with the text that was circulating earlier on.

11:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Sucre thing was downright goofy, but the government should have simply included it in the agenda for discussion. The assembly was vested with powers to discuss any constitutional issue. Instead the government agressively rejected it, the opposition found a nice do-nothing excuse, and Sucre's residents became enraged they were not even being considered in the Constitutional convention held in their city.

I disagree Boli-Nica. The Sucre thing – despite being like you say downright goofy – was handled with more diligence by the government than it merited. The reason they couldn’t include it in the CA was because the CA was already waaaaay behind schedule, this was only going to stall things further.

It’s also untrue that the opposition found a nice “do-nothing excuse”; they infact did a whole lot of things to support the goofy Sucre thing. Not because they actually thought it made any sense, but because they knew it was a convenient new obstacle to blocking the CA. That this led to violence & a widening split in Bolivia simply served their purposes still further, Evo was the bad guy right?

The government, on the other hand, made a sequence of counter-offers to the city of Sucre, who would have gained a huge benefit from the issue. The final package (which I hope also goes to answer Anon 3.28’s question) included:

1. US$340 million for the construction of a new airport & road infrastructure
2. the creation of a new 4th state institution (the Poder Electoral) – which together with the Poder Judicial already seated in the city would have given Sucre 2 of the 4 bodies (on a par with La Paz)
3. splitting the Bolivian public administration into 2 units, one going to Sucre (again on a par with La Paz)
4. the opening, closing & key ceremonial seatings of Congress to be held in Sucre (important symbolic gestures)
5. Sucre to be written into the Constitution as capital of the Republic of Bolivia (an important formal symbolic gesture)
6. Sucre to be designated city for all future constitutional reform
7. Sucre to be the seat for the Instituto de Investigacion Forense, any trials against leading political figures (Presidents, ministers etc)

Etc etc

http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20071105_006081/nota_249_502424.htm

This was a package that frankly Sucrenos could not have hoped for in their wildest dreams, & offered them prospects in terms of economic development, jobs & as near as dammit equal status to La Paz as could be viably conceived, that would have transformed this sleepy little backwater into becoming once again a key Bolivian city.

Sucre chose to reject it, insisting on the capitalidad plena – a we-want-it-all-so-give-it-to- us attitude that is sadly representative of many Bolivians’ inability to reach a compromise. While Sucrenos will have to accept their responsibility in missing this historic opportunity the opposition’s support of this All-Or-Nothing strategy was clear for all to see. To say now that they did nothing & played no part in the sad affair is hugely misleading.

And somewhat revealing. Because the truth is that Sucre – a city after capitalidad plena - & the opposition – who want autonomia & as much power as possible transferred out to Santa Cruz & their own hands – have nothing in common. An autonomista is by very definition for the erosion of a capital’s status & power. Be it in La Paz, Sucre or Timbuktu. And that’s why they’re now saying they had nothing to do with the issue. Tiraron la piedra y ahora esconden la mano.

People of Sucre, you were duped.

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Norman, I’m Anon from the SOA thread, sorry for the slow response on this one. Before getting to your questions on what happened last week in Congress, a bit of info which I hope is not new to you & without which it’s difficult to understand what took place (& why).

Three laws were passed in Congress last week:

i. a law reducing the time-frame for calling a referendum from 120 days to 60 days, & setting the date of 4th May for the referendum to approve the new Constitution

ii. a law (initially approved by middle-of-the road Carlos Mesa) specifying that referendums can only be called by democratically elected members of Congress (thereby excluding Departments from being able to do so at least until their members are also elected under popular vote.)

iii. a law calling for a referendum vote on May 4th asking citizens to specify what the maximum size of personal land-holdings should be for land reform in Bolivia

The significance of these can only be understood if we rewind a couple of months to when the CA approved the new constitution. The sequence of events, which I’ll try to recount dispassionately, is as follows:

1. the CA has a deadline to approve the new Constitution of Dec 14th, after which it loses its mandate to draw up the new magna carta. 18 months into the job, negotiations between the government & opposition in the CA are at a deadlock, not only are there no prospects for progress but the situation in Sucre (where the CA convene) has disintegrated into violence. In the certainty that no result will be found before the mandate expires the CA rushes through approval of the Constitution without the opposition’s presence in Oruro a week before the mandate expires.

2. the opposition denounces the new constitution as illegitimate & counters with threats to speed up the autonomy process. On December 13th the department of Santa Cruz responds by publishing its statutes for autonomy. The Prefects also dispute the using of the IDH gas funds to pay for the new Dignidad pension scheme to elderly Bolivians. Xmas brings a much needed break to the heightened political tensions in the country.

3. meetings in January between the government & prefects to resolve these issues make little progress & on the government’s announcement that the Dignidad pension scheme will be paid out from February (the previous Bonosol scheme had expired end of 2007 leaving with pensioners with no income) the opposition decides to unilaterally go ahead with their referendums for autonomy, Santa Cruz most notably setting the date of 4th May for theirs.

4. with Bolivia facing severe flooding the government proposes a 60 day hold on the autonomy & constitution questions so that priority can be given to the emergency. The opposition refuses insisting that the Dignidad pension scheme should also be halted for a truce to be possible.

5. in late February the flooding subsides & attempts are made to try to re-open negotiations, again largely unsuccessful (although on the IDH question the government’s proposal to compensate the Departments goes a long way to bridging at least the officially stated financial discrepancies.) The government expresses its dissatisfaction with the autonomy process moving ahead (particularly the one in Santa Cruz with its impending 4th May date), despite there being no agreements either on modifying the constitution or setting a date for the referendum needed to approve it.


It is in this context that the government decided to push through the 3 new laws last week, which allowed them to set the same date of May 4th for the referendum on the constitution. The objective being to spoil the opposition’s autonomy party (as in fiesta) that day. The 120 to 60 day reduction was key for this to be possible, & was pushed through in the well-noted controversial circumstances in the closing hours of the month of February (with the weekend in between there was effectively no more time available for the referendum to be held on May 4th).

Developments since then are from the government’s side an invitation to modify the laws passed last week:

http://www.erbol.com.bo/noticia.php?identificador=4171&id=1

& from the Opposition a call to accelerate further their autonomy referendums.

http://www.laprensa.com.bo/noticias/03-03-08/03_03_08_poli3.php

In short, the political situation in Bolivia is precipitating into a race against the clock, with both sides trying to beat the other in becoming the first to get popular support (through a vote of referendum) for their own agenda. As a way of not having to talk with the other side ofcourse, which sadly appears far too obvious an option to be worth contemplating.

I know I haven’t answered your questions, but I hope this gives you the context in which to frame them more objectively, we can get on to arguing a bit about who’s more to blame later if you like.

My best.

2:03 PM  
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It seems that by forcing down businesses' throats to raise salaries by 10% Morales wants to go back to the good ol' UDP hyperinflation days of the early 1980s.

Please include Morales as "Dumbest" alongside the guys in "Dumb" and "Dumber."

The Croats are Morales' Jews.
Beni is Morales' Katrina.

2:36 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Well if you're going to start using reason on this blog, I'm leaving ;) Gotta run; actually have some work to do today. Valid points worth thinking about before snapping off a response.

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Blogger Boli-Nica said...

anon 1:15.

All what you wrote (specifically on Sucre and in general on the Constituent) are worthless without a timeline.
You lay out supposed MAS positions on Sucre, but when were those concessions offered? At the very end if at all.
And that is the problem, the government has repeatedly followed a pattern of first of lambasting the oppositions position very publically, sometimes even calling marches in support of its policy (capitalidad).

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry Boli-Nica but you're wriggling.

That last offer to Sucre was made in October. Followed others made in September. Violence in Sucre erupted in August, just weeks before. The CA was open till mid-December.

Bearing in mind that timeline, the substantial cost of the packages offered (not something you can allocate for in a few minutes), & the fact that accepting an offer takes the time you need to say "OK", there was plenty of time for an agreement if Sucre had wanted it.

Unfortunately Sucrenos had lost all sense of reason. Thrown into the opposition's frontline to stall the CA all they could come up with was violence, disorder & we WANT IT ALL (capitalidad plena)!!

Hence missing out on a historic opportunity that may never again come their way. And certainly won't ever be offered by the Opposition or the Oriente.

Good people of Sucre, you were duped.

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Blogger Boli-Nica said...

From El Deber, a timeline that shows part of what the government has done to impose its view of "democracy." Concessions in November vs. concessions in August make a huge difference. Particularly when they wield both the weight of the state, and social movements freely, and talk double (and triple).

“1.- Modificación a la Ley INRA
El 29 de noviembre de 2006, los grupos afines al Movimiento al Socialismo impidieron el ingreso de la oposición y habilitaron dos senadores suplentes para aprobar la Ley INRA, 44 contratos petroleros y convalidar un acuerdo de cooperación militar con Venezuela. Dos días antes ya se había instalado el cerco en el Congreso mientras el Gobierno, los prefectos, agropecuarios y cívicos intentaban un diálogo para concertar la modificación a dicha ley.

2.- Teatro Gran Mariscal
Un año después, en noviembre de 2007, los mineros, cocaleros y campesinos fueron movilizados a Sucre para cercar el teatro Gran Mariscal y enfrentar a los chuquisaqueños que pedían la reinstalación de las sesiones de la Asamblea Constituyente exigiendo la capitalidad plena. Finalmente, el 24 de noviembre los asambleístas masistas decidieron sesionar en el cuartel de la Glorieta, donde se aprobó el texto en grande de la nueva CPE, mientras que afuera se registraron enfrentamientos violentos con saldo de tres muertos y más de 250 heridos.

3.- Recorte a los recursos del IDH y Renta Dignidad
El 27 de noviembre de 2007, el MAS movilizó a los mineros, cocaleros, campesinos y pobladores de El Alto, que cercaron el Congreso, mientras que los parlamentarios oficialistas con el apoyo de los mismos senadores suplentes, aprobaron la reducción de los fondos del Impuesto Directo a los Hidrocarburos a las regiones y el pago de la Renta Dignidad de Bs 200 mensual a los mayores de 60 años. También se aprobó la ley de convocatoria a la Asamblea Constituyente y se incorporó el traslado del cónclave a otro lugar del país.

4.- Aprueban en detalle el proyecto de Constitución
El 9 de diciembre de 2007, los masistas convocaron a una sesión en Oruro, pero restringieron el ingreso de los constituyentes de la oposición, y decidieron aprobar en detalle el proyecto de Constitución Política del Estado. Para la oposición, prefectos y cívicos fue un procedimiento ilegal. Tras 17 horas de una maratónica sesión, 164 asambleístas, en su gran mayoría oficialistas, más algunos aliados aprobaron en detalle la nueva Constitución Política del Estado.

5.- Se aprobó tres leyes
El pasado jueves 28 de febrero, el partido del presidente Morales aprobó en una cuestionada y maratónica sesión del Congreso la convocatoria de dos referéndums para validar su proyecto constitucional el 4 de mayo, entre las airadas protestas de la oposición y con la ausencia de varios de sus diputados que no pudieron acceder a la sesión por agresiones de los movimientos sociales. Una de las que se llevó la peor parte fue la diputada de Podemos, Ninoska Lazarte.”


Groups as different as MAS-ally Movimiento Sin Miedo, Bolivia's Lawyers Bar and Judicial Association, and the Association of Municipalities (led by a MAS ally) have all criticized the government for its attempts to impose the Constitution.

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