Thursday, May 01, 2008

The Santa Cruz Autonomy Vote: What People are Saying

Readers:

The attention of most people in Bolivia this weekend, and thousands of others who watch Bolivia from afar, will be on the vote Sunday in the department of Santa Cruz on a proposed ‘autonomy’ plan. We’ve taken our turn at analyzing this situation more than once (including this post earlier in the week). So, on the eve of the vote we bring you a diversity of points of view on the topic, excerpted from various sources and gathered here on the streets of Cochabamba. This gathering of quotes and views was compiled by Democracy Center team members Aldo Orellana, Leny Olivera, and Yi-Ching Hwang.

On Sunday we’ll have correspondents all around the country to offer up first hand reports of how Bolivia reacts to the vote. Look for that here late in the day Sunday.

Meanwhile, one more reminder to our La Paz readers. Friday night I’ll be in La Paz with Naomi Klein for a joint event presenting Dignity and Defiance, from the Democracy Center, and Naomi’s book, Shock Treatment. Here again are the details:

Book Presentation: Dignity and Defiance and Shock Doctrine

When: Friday, May 2 – 6:30pm
Where: Palacio de Comunicaciones, Ave. Mariscal Santa Cruz, isq. Calle Oruro
Admission: Free
Presenters: Jim Shultz and Naomi Klein (with commentary by other guests)
Hosts: The Democracy Center, Fundación Solon, Editoriales Plural


Jim Shultz


THE SANTA CRUZ AUTONOMY VOTE:
WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING


Quotes from Some of the Key Actors and Analysts

...the “catastrophic tie” that the country has been in since 2003, continues. Neither of the political sectors were able to impose their vision of the country and neither reached a consensus in order to achieve an agreed solution.

-- Pablo Stefanoni, Director of Bolivia’s Le Monde Diplomatique magazine


The May 4th referendum is not about Autonomy, contrary to what is published in order to manipulate the Cruceño’s (Bolivians from Santa Cruz) feelings. It is a PROJECT OF STATUTE, therefore, it is the responsibility of all citizens to cast a responsible vote and be conscious of what is being legalized, because the statute will affect and impact the present and the future of the country and the department of Santa Cruz. However, the current Statute project does not have any constitutional framework and in its entire text there is not a single mention of the “Political Constitution of the State.

-- “Santa Cruz We are All” (“Santa Cruz Somos Todos”), an independent Santa Cruz movement, quote taken from an April 2008 publication.


The Santa Cruz statute of autonomy, initially driven by those in power during the neo-liberal governments, has been described by various governmental sectors as “illegal” and “anti-constitutional,” but can we deny its “legitimacy”?

-- Alex Contreras Baspineiro, ex spokesman for President Evo Morales


History shows with ample eloquence, the terrible consequences that the divisionary and separatist processes supported and induced by foreign interests have had for humanity.

-- Excerpt from a letter signed by a lengthy list of left-leaning intellectuals, artists, and institutions, from around the world ("The conspiracy to divide Bolivia must be denounced")


We believe in and we defend democracy, the Constitution, [Bolivian] laws, and we do not manipulate them for our convenience like the hegemonic and totalitarian central government does ... [The government] has tried to intimidate us and crush us with force.... They threatened civil war, planted the seeds of hate, manipulated their followers saying that autonomy would divide the country. Lies and perversities... [They squandered] public resources in a national and international campaign never before seen, lying, false, dirty...

-- Santa Cruz regional governor Ruben Costas, April 30


The La Paz Residents' Committee, which unites La Paz union leaders, business owners, and workers, reported that they have received all kinds of threats and insults from youth acting under the name "Unión Juvenil Cruceñista" (Santa Cruz Youth Union), and that this intimidation has been more intense in the period leading up to the autonomy referendum.

--Residents of La Paz receive threats of ethnic cleansing after May 4


Other Important Declarations

Organization of American States, European Union and several other neighboring countries have manifested that they recognize the national institution and that they will not recognize any expressions that put [the national institution] at risk.

Special spokes person of United Nations, (UN) believes that the Santa Cruz Autonomy Statute project violate the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, in respect to the indigenous peoples of the department.

The episcopal conference of the Catholic Church: “The approval procedure of the new constitutional laws and the departmental autonomy should occur within a honorable fulfillment of the established laws....”

The National Electoral Court sent a resolution suspending all referendums.

The Superintedent of Banks and Financial Entities (newspaper El Deber, April 16, 2008) informs that no banks, cooperatives, or financial institutions can demand a proof of vote for any financial transactions (Article 152, Electoral code), given that the referendum of May 4th “does not fit into the Political Constitution of the State, the Electoral Code, nor any of the laws of the Republic written by the National Electoral Court.”

Senator from the opposing Social Democratic Power (Poder Democrático Social- Podemos) party, Carlos Bohrt, assured that the statutes of autonomy of Santa Cruz, Pando, Tarija, and Beni will not be applied immediately after the results of each popular consultation due to the lack of constitutional backing.


And Opinions from the Street in Cochabamba

I hope that there are no violent confrontations between the two sectors, the opposition and the government. I would like [politicians on both sides] to put aside their self-absorbed, stingy attitudes so they can open their hearts and see just one Bolivia. This is a unique country where we have all the diversity to build a new country.

-- Anonymous Woman, Business Administrator

It is an important date, without any doubt, for the country’s democracy. Unfortunately the autonomy statutes as well as the political constitution of the state both have certain defects with respect to their legal approval. But without any doubt, [May 4] represents a reflection of what is democracy and the opinions of the population, in this case, of [the people of] Santa Cruz. I approve of it, in principle, even with all its susceptibilities and the threats from one sector to another. It is the people, a sector of the people that is making it known, and showing their wishes for the vote, and the other sectors, the opposition, well, in this case the government, they should accept it (the referendum). I would give [leaders on both sides] the advice of patience, patience and wisdom. Governing a country with so many different ethnic groups and cultural differences is very difficult....and dialog, a lot of dialog. Sometimes it is difficult to converse, it is bothersome, but one has to do it, it is necessary to communicate.

-- Jorge Uberhuaga, civil engineer


It is a date where there should be celebrations for Bolivia, because in reality autonomy, independent of whether there is campaign for a NO, will not stop. You will see that even in those departments that voted for a NO, there will be autonomy as well. It is not something that can be stopped. I think that the topic of autonomy is a celebration for Bolivia. [Politicians on both sides should] stop throwing more firewood in the fire...in reality in Bolivia we don’t need anymore provocations, what we need is that all the politicians, sincerely both the current administration and the opposition, go to the polls. Let’s go to the ballot boxes and trust that if they [the current administration] have done a good job, they will return to their positions, and that [voting] is the only way Bolivia is going to avoid deaths.

-- Alex Brañez, lawyer


First we should recognize that the May 4 referendum is going to happen de facto. I think there are people who support it based on just the slogans. There is going to be some absenteeism and people who criticize it. I think that May 4 will be just another election where symbolically the people are consulted in a fictitious democracy. I think that the moment of tension will be when the Regional General Assembly is created, which is what the statutes that they are voting on call for, because they are going to have to discuss what the competencies they will have. I would tell [leaders on both sides] not to fight racism with racism, to not deepen the differences between cambas and collas [people from the lowlands and highlands, respectively], that when they put forth ideas they should think about whether what they say could cause division and ethnic confrontations, which are hard to control and in which rationality does not exist. The causes can be traced to the media and the politicians who repeat these ideas. I think we should look at the things that unite us, not the things that make us different. I think that is the way.

-- Gary Rojas, Communications student from Santa Cruz, who resides in Cochabamba

This gathering of quotes and views was compiled by Democracy Center team members Aldo Orellana, Leny Olivera, and Yi-Ching Hwang.

37 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim,
I appreciate the way you do not censor the blog but, could you make an exception with the runescape propaganda. It is bothersome and totally irrelevant to the subjects that we care about.
Thanks

9:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Camba constitution writen by Costas, is that democratic? Are the croats, nazis, Antelos and racist white elite going to share the land with the ignorant cambas who are voting for a document that is going to keep them as usual? Carnaval, drugs, parties; that is all cambas care about. without the poor migrant collas they could produce nothing like before 1952. It is amazing how the children of collas are more sellouts because they are afraid to be identified with the collas, that is so pathetic, all cambas wanabees without any pride or decency.
Have they read the constitution? No they can hardly read or write, they are bussy with alcohol, drugs, and in comparsas. the people of santa cruz, with exceptions are ignorant, racist, stupid, fribolous, and deserve a governor like Costas, and the croats.
Let's create the 10th Department the Chaco and leave the cambas alone in their whore houses, enjoying their inmoral style of life.
Viva Bolivia, without lazy cambas.

8:00 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

I find it curious when I read comments like that of anon 8:00. He/she complains of racism while filling his post withthe same. He complains of ignorance and of Cruceños not having read the constitution, yet does not refute the Estatuto on its merits or content, but rather on wh ohad input to its drafting. The comments in Jim's post for the most part reflect the same... si o no, but nothing on the content. Anon, can you pick a particular article in the Estatutos that yuo disagree with and make a cogent argumnet without using the words Croat, Camba, Colla or Nazi?

8:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marinkovich

What last name so Bolivian that that takes (or it brought) the nazista that “inherited” best territories of almost all martyred Bolivia. He would be interesting to confirm the origin of its grandparents Jew-Nazis, come to Latin America, indeed of the Yugoeslavia Republic, by not being able to coexist in a country with the socialist system. Not even in the directed one by the founder of the towns nonaligned, as she were it Marshal Tito.

He is that the men of that recalcitrant sect, like whom they entered by Argentina, were part of which the victims of nazism became , despite being they those who caused the war Nazi-facist of extermination of the races that, according to those of Aryan blood, do not deserve to survive. Simultaneously to that phobia against “the inferior” races they took advantage of the confusion, consecuencial of the massacres, to appropriate the capitals hoarded by the industrialists German and, in the explosion, they made great deposits in the bank without North American facade and, with its “washed ” affluent conscience, they requested shelter in these countries where they were buying best earth; but the important industries, accompanied by the great communicational partnerships, from where they launch his criminal campaigns of terror.

The Bolivian Marinkovich already removed the criminal claws against the race that “… does not deserve to survive”. Before it maintained them encapotadas in white gloves like those of Goicochea, with which descabellaba and replaced governors to its measurement. Its interference because the vasallos of imperialism were blandengues and, by the same did not notice, the town was indifferent.

The man removed the claws, sure because North American imperialism, through its ambassador kosoveño Golberg gave the approval him for that the maneuvers took off. “A human” demonstration as Samaritan primeriza, indicative of which the facist Nazi feels like lady's man and strongly supported by the arms of a crazy person who goes way to the court of the world. Or but well, to the court of the towns, who is but strong that the three cats that maúllan in the “average Bolivian moon”. Although, if to see we go, the problem for this continent would not be the fact that the Nazi-Jew racist “maúllan” like cat thief. He is that, as we saw by television, those criminals who govern the well-off region but of Bolivia are killing to those who do not shout “secession already”. They persecuted a poor boy, who took a capotera of student in his backs; they fustigaron them until the faint and, once in the floor, they finished off it to kicks, with those revolting legs of the ignominy.

PODEMOS, NFR, UN, AND the putocrats of the opposition will applaud this criminal procedure of secession? In addition, as for a Bush diploma, the Nazi-Jew-racists of Bolivia it seems that they contracted the people of Súmate so that it takes a list to finish to them with the vulgar race that montuno supports to the “native and without Moral family” Evo, to those who as of next Sunday, will be killing of a ten every 4 hours. Previously, the “democrats” of Santa Cruz, headed by the “greater democrat ”, Branco Marinkovich, will moor and hands like a standing up nobody “indios al lazo”.

While we wrote down the threat on the part of the Jew-Nazi-facists, Bolivia, with us, shouts with force: Mother country, Socialism or barbarism

8:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is, in practice, no such thing as autonomy. Practically, there is only a distinction between responsible and irresponsible dependence. - Wendell Berry

9:54 AM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Babelfish made 8:40 am's post even more delighfully incoherent.

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to agree with frank_ibc. The 8:40 posting was totally incoherent. Perhaps it should have been posted in the writer's first language and then let the readers translate.
Buffy :-)

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The vote on sunday is motivated as much by racism, ignorance, mob mentality, and hunger for power as Morales' own flawed constitutional vote.

By trampling on the democratic process and shoving his unbending agenda down Bolivias throat he has opened pandoras box.

Whatever the consequences may be, Morales need only look in the mirror for someone to blame.

-JP

2:19 PM  
Anonymous b-dogg said...

i hope cooler heads prevail in bolivia this weekend. be safe everyone. multi-ethnic democracies, what a tangled web they weave.

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In this age of emerging entities such as the European Union the retrograde “civicos” (Marinkovic the Croat and Co.) are planning to turn back the clock and create a BANANA REPUBLIC. Long Live the Banana Republic of the Media Luna (Half moon).

Franco

12:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What people-actually what former US officials- are saying:

"MANUEL ROCHA: Bolivia is a fiction. It is two people that cannot divorce, but have stopped sleeping in the same room for a long time."

Manuel Rocha is former U.S. ambassador to Bolivia.


Below is the URL for this "cut and paste"

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/05/02/bolivia_morales/

Franco

12:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 8:00 am

You have clearly stated why Santa Cruz, Beni, Tarija and Pando deserve their autonomy. Your comment is typical of the people of the highlands who are terrified and don't want to loose their centralist privileges. Thank you!

3:08 AM  
Blogger cebaehren said...

Jim!
My advice (click on the link!) about Anonimous Persons with dumb racists meanings:

No virtual cowards more!

3:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

¿ESTA ES LA AUTONOMÍA QUE QUEREMOS?

ESTATUTO DEL DEPARTAMENTO AUTÓNOMO DE SANTA CRUZ

Art.109. TÍTULOS AGRARIOS

El Gobernador firmará todos los Títulos Agrarios que acrediten la propiedad sobre la tierra y se encuentren dentro de la jurisdicción del Departamento Autónomo de Santa Cruz, los que, de acuerdo a principios constitucionales, causan estado y son irrevisables, salvo por la autoridad judicial competente, permitiendo su inscripción en el Registro de Derechos Reales

TITULO SEXTO DE LA REFORMA DEL ESTATUTO

Art.168. PROCEDIMIENTO DE REFORMA

La iniciativa para la reforma del Estatuto corresponde al Gobernador o a un tercio de los miembros de la Asamblea Legislativa Departamental.
La reforma del Estatuto deberá ser aprobada por la Asamblea Legislativa Departamental, mediante Ley de Reforma del Estatuto aprobada por dos tercios de sus miembros, salvo que sólo tuviera por objeto la ampliación de las competencias del Departamento, en cuyo caso, la Ley de Reforma del Estatuto se aprobará por mayoría absoluta.
Si la iniciativa para la reforma del Estatuto no obtuviera las mayorías previstas en el párrafo anterior para cada caso, o no se lograran los requisitos exigidos para su aprobación, no se podrá iniciar un nuevo procedimiento de reforma sobre el mismo punto durante el mismo mandato de la Asamblea Legislativa Departamental


SOLO EL GOBERNADOR PODRÁ ENTREGAR TÍTULOS AGRARIOS A SUS CORRELIGIONARIOS, CÍVICOS HACENDADOS Y SERÁN IRREVISABLES.

LA MODIFICACIÓN DE SU "ESTATUTO LOGIERO", SÓLO PODRA SER REALIZADO POR LOS "LOGIEROS" Y NO POR EL PUEBLO

¡¡¡ LOGIAS - FASCISTAS !!!
¡¡¡ ESTATUTOS - RACISTAS

7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

School of the Americas,General Freddy McKay.

His name and his brother's are being circled around as being part of the military coup being planned by the bolivian armed forces and the usual (facists, masons, white rich elites, the Company In Action, cholos sellouts)
Evo wake up, the hienas are around you.
25 Jan 87 - 20 Jan, 1989
Cadete Mackay Peralta Freddy Cadet Combat Arms Basic C-2 24 Feb - 25 Apr, 1975
Cadete Mackay Peralta Johnny Jungle Operations Crs OE-8 21 Nov - 8 Dec, 1967
Cadete Mackay Peralta Johnny Cadet

7:24 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

I picked up the paper today (Sat - 3 May), and on the back page of El Deber is a full page add from the Corte Nacional Electoral that starts off with "La Ley del Referendum establece que en la actualidad sólo el Congreso Nacional puede convocar a un reférndum departmental." I just had to chuckle... ISN'T THAT THE WHOLE POINT!!! Why should only the national government be allowed to poll the populace about regional matters?

8:01 AM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Is 7:24 p.m the same jackass who posted the rumors about schoolchildren being forced to attend Autonomist events and flyers calling for the genocide of indigenous?

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8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim,
I appreciate the way you do not censor the blog but, could you make an exception with the runescape propaganda. It is bothersome and totally irrelevant to the subjects that we care about.
Thanks

8:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political Anonymous in a DEMOCRACY? (Link)

And what is this gibberish?

8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't thing that anonymous @ 8:40 am was incoherent. One should not attack an honest effort to write in English with disingenuous statements. Anonymous @ 8:40 raises an important point - that there is much land to be owned in Santa Cruz, Beni & Pando, and that the people that are currently motivating the Santa Cruz farce are little more than Nazis reborn.

"La cabra tira al monte," in other words. Lower class people in Santa Cruz have been conditioned for decades to hate the Kollas, and are probably beyond mental repair at this stage. Perhaps the only viable strategy at this point is to focus on the UCJ, neutralize it, and toss the leaders into some prison in the Altiplano.

To Frank_IBC: You are a complete ignorant, en cuanto a la politica Boliviana se refiere. What are you doing here, in the end?

10:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't thing (sic) that anonymous @ 8:40 am was incoherent"

You failed to understand that 8:40 used Babelfish (or another translator) to translate his/her rant. He/she would have been better off writing in his/her native language and let us decide the merits of the comment.

11:36 PM  
Anonymous Bolivian who has no reason to hate anyone said...

Bolivia is certainly troubled land and while we Bolivians abroad wish a peaceful outcome for all concerned we also realize there are many powers on this uneven playing-field.

I tried to make some sense of the Babel-translated rant of Anonymous 8:40 as well and I think it is referring to the leaders of the CAINCO and other large landholders having arrived to Bolivia as Jews being persecuted by the Nazis. Once settled in their new land, they didn't rock the boat by denouncing that many amongst them were also Nazis and like the famous Klaus Barbie, very active advisors of the military-political elite running the country.

I too thought, awh...not again with some cheap anti-semitic shot at a Bolivian issue far removed from the Gaza strip politics...until I saw this article authored by Daniel Bush, titled "Jews Leaving Bolivia as Morales Favors Socialism, Iran, Chavez."

"...The proposed constitution calling for increased state control of private-sector
enterprise is being fiercely opposed by many middle- and upper-class Bolivians, including the country’s Jews. Four of Bolivia's wealthiest provinces have launched autonomous movements in response to the proposal."

Here is the link:
http://jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/2008042320080305bolivia.html

Unfortunately, the JTA unlike the Democracy Center erases all good comments and there were many including some highlighting the fact that a near 2 Million Bolivians had fled the country long before Morales was elected in order to find jobs abroad, but alas the JTA only left the 3 non-sensical and hate filled (toward Indians in Bolivia) ones.

12:26 AM  
Anonymous FuerzaCamba FuerzaBolivia said...

Autonomous on May 4, 2008

May 4th is posed to be an important day in history for all of Bolivia.
It is the day the States (Departamentos) of: Santa Cruz, Tarija, Beni, Pando, Cochabamba, and possibly Chuquisaca are leading a critical revolutionary movement in opposition to the central government of Bolivia, to transform their departments into autonomic political states moving towards a “federal country system”, similar to that of: Brazil, USA, Great Brittan, and Argentina. Most people don't seem to know that Bolivia has a “Centralized government”, or exactly what that means.
Bolivia’s centralized government (located in La Paz) has complete control over: police, taxation and other government functions, the political authority extends over the entire economy. There are no state congresses, Legislature, or law making bodies. There are many problems with current political system.
Taxation: The current tax law “Lavantamiento del once Porciento” says only 11% of the income produced by ones state actually makes it back to own department. Money that is used for: Roads, Schools, and Police etc. The other 89% goes to La Paz, and stays there, helping with city projects, government building etc, those funds and government support rarely making it to other states.
This ratio in unfair for all states, but cuts deeper for those in Eastern Bolivia, which produces 65% of the country’s Gross Domestic Product, and Santa Cruz alone produces over 30% of the national GDP.
State government: Due to the lack of traditional “State government”, each state is treated the same way, even though having their own separate issues. It is like a having the same taxes and projects in the diverse states like: California, Maine, Illinois, and Georgia. This “one size fits all” attitude does not work; Bolivia is not a homogenous country. The county differs in: People (Ethnical background), Culture, Education, Income, Language and Land, just to name a few. Bolivia’s land changes from: High Mountains, Alti-Plano, Grand Chaco, and Lowland forest in the Amazon Basin. There are many different industries: Agricultural (Soy, Sugarcane), Mining, Petroleum business, Factories, Technology Companies, all of which have different needs, that are better addressed by region.
Ethnicity: I would also like to note Bolivia is not just a “Comunidad Andina” (Andean Community) as Evo Morales states. Almost 2/3 of Bolivia is not even in the mountains, and does not belong to the Aymara/Quechua: Ethnical, Cultural, or Language group. Coca is also something tied to the Andean culture and is not, of any consequence to the Eastern States in which have no businesses with it.
The majority of “Cambas” (people from Eastern Bolivia) are “Mestizo” and mix of Spanish and Indigenous decent, not white. The culture of Eastern Bolivia has been built around the indigenous cultures of their land (the Guaranies, Moxeños, Chiquitanos, Guarayos, and Chiriguanos all peoples for the Amazon Basin). Many monuments dedicated to their “mixed heritage” have been built around the city of Santa Cruz, like that of: Grigota, and La Madre India. A large number of words like: Camba, Cuñapé, Taita, Cunumi, etc., have all been borrowed for these local people.
Further Problems: The draft constitution put forth by the Central government in Late 2007, threatens the Businesses, Jobs and land-holding citizens of Santa Cruz. The fact is the constitution was not even reached legally. Evo got it approved, without the presence of opposition representatives, because they were not able to enter the hearings. Mr. Morales knew there were many Bolivians opposing his “new” constitution, and was unable to reach the 2/3 votes needed approve the bill.
Land Reform: There has been a strong reaction since land reform laws came in to affect, because it does not just concern the elites, but all Bolivians. According to the new bill, land owners who are not using their land productively will have their land redistributed to the, Indigenous Aymara and Quechua people of the Western Mountains. This law was targeted to gain rights to the fertile lands of the Eastern Bolivia. It is the middle to lower class people who are loosing the land reform battle. They are the ones who own land but don’t currently have the means to work the land, so they are forced to sell their land, because otherwise it could be possessed by the government, and given away without compensation. In affect these people are stripped of their rights, and robbed of land that they paid for, or was past down to them.
President Evo Morales and MAS
President Evo Morales is the leader of the “MAS” party (Movement toward Socialism) and a “Cocalero” (leader of the coca growers union). Mr. Morales is also friends with (Left-Wing) Leaders: Hugo Chaves (Venezuela), Rafael Correa (Ecuador), Fidel Castro (Cuba), and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran), all of which have anti-US sentiments.
Why Autonomy?
In short the Autonomists want a true democracy, for too long they have felt over looked and want a say in their own future. They want the chance for every region to manage its own: collection of taxes, form own internal laws and have more control over production of their resources. They would have a chance to, elect a state governor and have elected assembly with the powers to vote on state issues. With this state government they will be able to write its own polices on: taxes, telecommunications, housing and land.
Santa Cruz would have the opportunity to form and run its own police force.
They do not want to secede from Bolivia, they intend keep some level of coordination with the national government.
Current changes
Police: Santa Cruz has already taken steps to create its own police force, the current police force under the Bolivian government is under funded, undermanned, and the wages made by officers are low, resulting in an ineffective force that can be paid off.
Recently, the state government in the department of Santa Cruz have put their foot down and decided to keep more funds, to put towards paving roads, and other city works projects. Much of the mid to outer rings of Santa Cruz city, (and subsequently their neighborhoods) are still dirt roads. The process is slow due to low funding, but with more money to work with and a newly formed state government it will speed up the process.
Jobs: There has been a decline in available work for years in Santa Cruz as in most of Bolivia. Many families and youth alike are looking overseas (USA, Spain, Italy, Great Britain) for a better future, people who, if had other options would happily stay in the land that they love. Autonomy would change this; more money flowing in to their states will create more jobs, and new businesses again, jump starting the economy.
La Paz has also had a hold on any Government and Political jobs in Santa Cruz, breaking the power hold of “La Paz’s Central Government” will open new job and opportunities, previously lost to people from La Paz.
I have heard people use the word “Renegade” to describe the departments of Santa Cruz, Beni, Pando, Tarija, Cochabamba and Chuquisaca for waning to declaring their Autonomy, May 4th 2008. My question: Is it “Renegade” to want to stay democratic, to want to stop a socialist from driving up the price of goods? Is it “Renegade” to want to collect your own taxes from the revenue your state produces to go towards better: schools, roads, police forces, and over all quality of life.

12:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would want to read here an interview with Alex Contreras Baspineiro explaining to us all why he is no longer at his post. The Democracy Center would serve us all well to clarify that nebulous passage late news from Bolivia.

What did Evo mean by saying "He quit because he had too much fun." ?

3:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally “Autonomous”

After years of dependence on the central government- who is now seen as “centralist” and anti business-, the “richest region of Bolivia” is finally becoming “Autonomous” under the leadership of “entrepreneurs” and “self made men”. Actually these barons of Soya and other farm produce want autonomy because their funnel of cash from the central government was taken away by Morales.

The previous presidents of Bolivia pandered to the “self made men” of Santa Cruz for years by giving them free land and aiding their “miraculous” growth through loans from the IMF and other institutions of “development” as well as the mineral riches of the Highlands.

They were happiest under their biggest contributor President Banzer, a former dictator born in Santa Cruz, and continued their stellar rise “through hard work” under such figures as Tuto Quiroga, Banzer’s vice president, who became president in 2001.

We all know about Goni the opportunist-and Drop out of the University of Chicago- who tried to “save” Bolivia through his “terapia de shock” an economic plan that was celebrated by Bolivia’s foreign creditors as a master plan to get what they were owed. This economic hero, who now resides in the US, is probably eyeing the events in Santa Cruz with great interest because that “democratic process”, if successful, will bring him great returns.

Alberto Quispe Huallpa AKA Franco

PS: Quispe and Huallpa are very common last names in Boliva…Like Smith and Jones in the US.

8:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Franco, the success of Santa Cruz is not only because of visionary civic, political and business leaders. It is also mainly about the effort of millions of cruceños, immigrants and foreign investors that have come together to actually WORK productively creating a competitive and dynamic agroindustrial model that now wants to be destroyed by Morales by not allowing exports. Your attempt to downplay the effort of these millions of hard working people is truly pathetic and demeaning.

9:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The authoritarian and unproductive nature of traditional communist regimes is totally incompatible with decentralization and autonomy. As simple as that.

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A Camba constitution writen by Costas, is that democratic? "

Just like in the states, if it passes whatever process is in place to get on the ballot to be voted on and subsequently gets enough votes, then it represents the will of the people.

Part of democracy is about accepting that there is a real possibility that a majority may disagree with one's particular viewpoint for equally valid reasons as yours. I'd challenge Jim to at least defend what is clearly a democratic process even if he and his horse holders disagree with the outcome.

So, at the end of today, the important thing will be what people vote rather than what people are quoted as saying.

Bert

10:24 AM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

Only a leftist could use the words "illegal" and "vote" in the same sentence.

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Only a leftist could use the words "illegal" and "vote" in the same sentence."

Frankie, your comment seems to be a put-down for the leftists. In simple terms a leftist is for the rights of the common people and a rightist is for the wealthy. In simplistic terms does that exemplify your attitude?

Buffy :-)

1:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frank_IBC:

I asked you earlier - what is your purpose posting in this blog?

Are you going to answer?

2:28 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

I think I'll just leave him in suspense.

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please allow me to post the following messages to Mr. Morales and his administration:

1) The cruceño referendum carried out yesterday was just the tip of the iceberg; there are 3, 4 perhaps 5 more to come.

2) Bear in mind that “No hay peor ciego que aquel que no quiera ver.” Roughly translated as “ The worst blind man that there can be, is the one who refuses to see.”

3) What are you going to do when you run out of those big
petrobucks from Caracas?.

4) Let’s face it. Cambas do not hate anyone, but your everlasting hatred towards Santa Cruz make us support the autonomist movement. with all of its paraphernalia. Even though we may not agree with all of its terms and proposals..

It`s simple, just try to be nice and sincere with Santa Cruz for once.
We have the God given right to choose our fate. That’s our way of lifestyle and no one is going to make us change our mind. No one. Viva Santa Cruz.!!!
.

A Pasadena Camba
(I`m not a jew, croat, nazi, racist, big landowner, politician, mason, faggot,lazy, junky or whatever)

10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in San Julian for the vote and they burned the ballot boxes and chased after the poor notary here who barely escaped with her life. Then they went and Knocked UNITEL station off the air early in the morning (right after the Cardenal voted) so we couldn't see how things were going in SC. I guess the news was too calm for them. Nice guys those MAS folks. It was calm other than that. As we had no way to follow the news on TV I listened to "el hombre invisible" on radio FIDES, and got a great report that lasted all day and night. They had a team following the vote all over the department. The hombre invisible was amazed at the results. And the abstenciones was only about 30 percent even with the violence in a few places. So go figure. In the presidential elections the abstention was 35 percent or so. So an overwhleming victory for autonomy. Being in S.J. glad it is over so we can get back to work. People here really just want to finish harvesting or finish planting.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why isnt that democracy undermining US ambassador, Goldberg sent packing? So long as hes there, this sort of thing will happen until either Bolivia is cut in two, or Morales govt is removed.
Its foolish given his past record, that he was ever allowed to set foot in Bolivia!
Who is responsible for his being allowed to be ambassador there?

http://machetera.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-ambassador-of-ethnic-cleansing/#more-217

Brian

9:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

85% of the voters in Santa Cruz said "por qué no te callas Jim?"
You better do that before people in Beni, Pando and Tarija do the same. Stop your "goebbelian" massaging of the information and start seeing and listening all, not only those you choose to see and hear.

12:25 PM  

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