Friday, August 29, 2008

Bolivia Takes Gold in 'Most Elections' Competition

I keep looking for an opportunity to write here about something besides Bolivian politics, really.

I'd like to write about the new baby cow near our house that occupies my daughter's attention some afternoons, or about the new oat and alfalfa plants growing in the fields these day. Or to even write a Blog post about my cousin Sarah getting picked as John McCain's running mate. But political events in Bolivia never stand still for long, alas.

According to a new study reported on in today's Bolivian press, the country is now in third place in Latin America for the highest rate of inflation (behind Venezuela and Nicaragua). This is not news, of course, to food shoppers here.

But I am willing to bet that Bolivia easily vaults to first place in another category -- most elections.

So far this year we have had a serious of legally questionable regional votes on autonomy, and a national vote this month on whether to keep the President, Vice-President and eight of the nation's nine governors in office. And yesterday President Morales announced that he'd like to keep Bolivia's 'election madness' going. By Presidential decree he is scheduling a national vote on December 7th – on the proposed new constitution backed by MAS, along with elections for governor in La Paz in Cochabamba (where the incumbents were removed August 10th by voters) and sub-officials in all nine departments.

Suffice it to say, Morales opponents did not receive the decree with squeals of joy. Leaders in five departments, the so-called 'Media Luna' have threatened to boycott the vote – which in this case doesn't mean not voting but actually blocking the vote from taking place.

If we strip away all the rhetoric and sideshows, however, and get to the core of the thing, it isn't rocket science. It's called r-e-e-l-e-c-t-i-o-n.

It boils down to this. Absent a change in the constitution Evo and Alvaro have two and a half years left in office, are ineligible to seek re-election and would really like to stay in power longer, much longer. So getting a new constitution, one that allows for Presidential re-election is a big priority and with a 67% support tailwind behind them you can bet they are smart enough to know that now is the time to go after approval of that constitution.

The opposition knows that too, boy do they. If they can block a new constitution all they have to do is run out the clock. Evo can't run and there isn't a MAS figure anywhere near positioned to replace him. Rumors abound about the opposition looking for an indigenous candidate it can call its own, with names such as former Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada Vice President, Victor Hugo Cardenas, among them.

So while there will be talk in the coming days of land reform and indigenous autonomy on the one hand, and MAS power-grabbing on the other, the sign that really hangs over all these political moves reads: "It's re-election, stupid."

But optimist that I am, I still hope that a break in the political clouds will linger just long enough to talk about that small calf in the pasture. His slow chewing of sparse grass may be more representative of Bolivian life day to day than any of the political machinations under way.

PS: I was just kidding about John McCain's running mate being my cousin.

81 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So that's your summary of a complex 100 page document to be enacted at the end of the year, reelection? What a joke, Jim. It is increasingly clear that you haven't even taken the time to look through the NCPE or talked with any of its serious supporters.

7:53 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

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9:40 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

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9:49 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

Norman,
Regarding Jim's joke cousin Palin and your claim that "Ethics is her strong suit", I have a question.

Setting aside her public corruption and abuse of power issues, I question Palin's "ETHICS" specific to her as a MOTHER OF FIVE CHILDREN:
If Alaskan Palin runs a national campaign (when Alaska is about four THOUSAND miles away from D.C.), who will raise her BABY, WHO SUFFERS WITH DOWN'S SYNDROME?

What's your Roman Catholic faith say about her ethics regarding subjecting a Down Syndrome victim, who is just a baby, to being raised with secondary if not tertiary regard?

10:10 PM  
Anonymous Marty said...

Very true about the cow. It just hopes it won't get wacked on the ass unexpectedly, much like the people.

10:27 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

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10:52 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

Jim's joke cousin/beauty contest winner is so "cool" that Romney and Huckabee stood no chance in McCain's vetting process. Sarah won their swimsuit competition and kept hitting it out of the park when she answered all McCain's questions with the same answer: "World peace".

She'll be a great VP once somebody answers her question, "Just what does a VP do?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pak-rH0dCeA

10:58 PM  
Anonymous I crause said...

Wow.
El Grindio is so insanely right wing, he even hates the Republican party.
Respect!
Or should that be Nanoo Nanoo!
And congrats for your cousin, Jim.
I hope she loses badly, obviously, but congratulations for the kudos nevertheless.At least she won't bring the kind of shame that being on the same ticket as Bush would bring (or was Bush on Cheney's ticket? All I remember is one had loads of telephone lines and one had loads of bags of pretzels.I'd guess it was the VP with the pretzels, right?)
Anyway,I should imagine it kind of puts your family on the map for a few generations and provides a few laughs down the bar.
Unless of course she wins and your whole family has to go into protective hiding.......!!!!:)
Incidentally, do you think she'll tell Big John to tell the IRI and their friends to stop messing with Latinamerican governments, elections, media, economy,blahblahblah etc.?
Never mind.
At least she's pretty cute.

11:46 PM  
Anonymous I crause said...

I've just seen the bit where you said she wasn't your cousin.
Please ignore the last email from after the last Nanoo.

I trust the cow actually exists?

11:48 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Jim, I opted not to say it on the last post, but I thought there was a difference between an "election" and a "referendum". It's a minor ponit, but in two consecutive posts you've chosen he wrong term and I can't believe that you don't know the difference. As to the CPE, thefirst anon has a point. Where can I find your detailed analysis Jim? To say it's all about re-election is ludicrous.

Grindio, work on reading for understanding. I do not support this vice presidential candidate selection. From what little I've read in the last 15 hours or so, while she seems very capable as a small town mayor and potentially competent as a governor, she is in no way qualified to serve as the commander in chief of the US. As to how she raises her children, that's what you could come up with on an ethics counterpoint?!?

2:44 AM  
Blogger chasqui said...

I don´t think there are words that can describe how revolting the events of today in Plaza 24 de Septiembre were. Sure the march was an affront to cambas, but it was them that chose to act the way they did.

I am not a fan of Evo economic policies, which I believe that despite their good intentions will only further poverty in Bolivia, but I support his social agenda. On the other hand there is absolutely nothing positive that I can say about the civicos.

I am far to hurt to say more, but I´m afrain that before the year is out, we are going to see a catastrophe.

3:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evo's defining comment...

....."I've learned that, above what is legal, there is politics. Given that, when my advisors tell me 'Evo, what you are doing is illegal', I just go ahead and do it and tell them: 'if it isn't legal, make it legal. That's why you studied..." ... Evo Morales

1:28 PM  
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1:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EVO = KKK * 1/K

DC = EVO

=> DC = KK

2:32 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

ANON = ABOVE
ABOVE = IDIOT
=> ABOVE ANON = IDIOT

4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Grindio, youre such a slut

6:34 PM  
Blogger BOLIVIA LIBRE said...

Interesting you mention that Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua, Countries leading the Socialism of the XXI century, have the highest Latin America inflation rate. Perhaps the strategy is to repeat it so many times for us to be use to it and not to worry, as you already said, these is no news to us. All do I must confess I am surprised you didn’t mention this is the US fault; papa Chavez must have forgotten one of your checks.

You don’t need to worry about December’s election, isn’t going to happen!; at least not in the whole country. It so sad to see how your motto of building democracy from the ground up is simply, building Evo forever from the ground up. You do have to worry about another category we are not please to be champions about; the ones related to civil unrest and violence. We were extremely close to a full scale civil war during our Agrarian Revolution, many do consider it one. And we already had a civil war between La Paz and Sucre; I hope you learned at list that from the failure of the constituent assembly.

Chasqui, what part of the social agenda in Evo’s proposal for new constitution you support? It will be interesting to know what you are talking about. I do share with you the sad view of Bolivia becoming a catastrophe by year’s end.

6:41 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

THIS JUST IN FROM GOD:

Republicans prayed for rain in Denver so as to cancel Obama's speech as evidenced in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohxdvio9n2Q

Responding to the above prayers for rain from the nut above and James Dobson and the Bush-"Religious Right" (as represented by Norman on this blog), God apparently:
1) sent Gustav,
2)caused cancellation of Bush's speech at the GOP convention and
3)caused Cheney to cancel his appearance at the convention

as referenced in this LA Times video:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-bush1-2008sep01,0,4266876.story

I humbly, reverently hand it to God, He has a sense of humor and a sense of wrath.

8:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This just in.... Grindio is a pole smoking... che loving slut...

Pink suits you

9:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/sfl-forum31latinsbaug31,0,23367.story

10:04 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

"Grindio is a pole smoking... che loving slut..."

Being Sunday and all, as in you are limited to your skill set, understanding, educational level and your uniquely personal child development issues, you mean this in a good way, right?

12:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You don’t need to worry about December’s election, isn’t going to happen!; at least not in the whole country."

"We were extremely close to a full scale civil war during our Agrarian Revolution, many do consider it one."

Bolivialibre,

Your fascists colors are showing loud and clear but I urge you to "wake up and smell the coffee". The pseudo 'Putsch' by Costas and Marinkovic will not come to fruition. Their so called "civil war" is nothing but a series of crimes perpetrated by a group of paid goons, the UJC.

Franco

1:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bolivialibre,

You call the recent Sucre revolt a "civil war" between La Paz and Sucre but there was no actual fighting between these two cities.

The Revolution of 1952 on the other hand was a bloody conflict in which the peasants, miners and disaffected army officers supported the MNR against the government and the oligarchy.

Needles to say, a conflict if it were to take place would be short and purely detrimental to Costas and Co.


Franco

1:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grindio and Norman,

If you want to know what McCain sees in Palin, watch his eyes. Thanks to the miracle of science (and viagra), he can channel his inner Clinton to prove he is not too old to be president and have his own Monica Lewinsky as nearby as the VP's office:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN5xbWtNSU

2:05 AM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

This just in:

Regarding the "Ethics is her strong suit"/"No it's not" debate, Norman and I can stop worrying about if Sarah Palin running for VP means she will not provide her Down's Syndrome infant with the proper care, love and time the little American with a qualified disability (a protected class) needs if she is out on the campaign trail.

Apparently, Trig Paxson Van Palin (the infant's name) is not Sarah's son.

He is her grandson; the son of her 16y.o. daughter, Bree, according to the Daily Kos. Sarah Palin's "fraudulent claims of maternity"-"that had been whispered among the Alaskan legislature" means "Sarah is a liar", according to these investigative reports (containing photographs, videos and timeline) filed by the Daily Kos:

1) http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

and

2)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/31/145838/319/386/581332


(I wonder if this is not a setup by McCain's staff that formerly worked for Bush under KKKarl Rove.)

3:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So imagine my delight, my absolute astonishment, when the hokey chick flick came out on the trail, a Cinderella story so preposterous it’s hard to believe it’s not premiering on Lifetime. Instead of going home and watching “Miss Congeniality” with Sandra Bullock, I get to stay here and watch “Miss Congeniality” with Sarah Palin.

Sheer heaven.

It’s easy to see where this movie is going. It begins, of course, with a cute, cool unknown from Alaska who has never even been on “Meet the Press” triumphing over a cute, cool unknowable from Hawaii who has been on “Meet the Press” a lot.

Americans, suspicious that the Obamas have benefited from affirmative action without being properly grateful, and skeptical that Michelle really likes “The Brady Bunch” and “The Dick Van Dyke Show,” reject the 47-year-old black contender as too uppity and untested.

Instead, they embrace 72-year-old John McCain and 44-year-old Sarah Palin, whose average age is 58, a mere two years older than the average age of the Obama-Biden ticket. Enthusiastic Republicans don’t see the choice of Palin as affirmative action, despite her thin résumé and gaping absence of foreign policy knowledge, because they expect Republicans to put an underqualified “babe,” as Rush Limbaugh calls her, on the ticket.

They have a tradition of nominating fun, bantamweight cheerleaders from the West, like the previous Miss Congeniality types Dan Quayle and W., and then letting them learn on the job. So they crash into the globe a few times while they’re learning to drive, what’s the big deal?

Obama may have been president of The Harvard Law Review, but Palin graduated from the University of Idaho with a minor in poli-sci and worked briefly as a TV sports reporter. And she was tougher on the basketball court than the ethereal Obama, earning the nickname “Sarah Barracuda.”

The legacy of Geraldine Ferraro was supposed to be that no one would ever go on a blind date with history again. But that crazy maverick and gambler McCain does it, and conservatives and evangelicals rally around him in admiration of his refreshingly cynical choice of Sarah, an evangelical Protestant and anti-abortion crusader who became a hero when she decided to have her baby, who has Down syndrome, and when she urged schools to debate creationism as well as that stuffy old evolution thing.

Palinistas, as they are called, love Sarah’s spunky, relentlessly quirky “Northern Exposure” story from being a Miss Alaska runner-up, and winning Miss Congeniality, to being mayor and hockey mom in Wasilla, a rural Alaskan town of 6,715, to being governor for two years to being the first woman ever to run on a national Republican ticket. (Why do men only pick women as running mates when they need a Hail Mary pass? It’s a little insulting.)

Sarah is a zealot, but she’s a fun zealot. She has a beehive and sexy shoes, and the day she’s named she goes shopping with McCain in Ohio for a cheerleader outfit for her daughter.

As she once told Vogue, she’s learned the hard way to deal with press comments about her looks. “I wish they’d stick with the issues instead of discussing my black go-go boots,” she said. “A reporter once asked me about it during the campaign, and I assured him I was trying to be as frumpy as I could by wearing my hair on top of my head and these schoolmarm glasses.”

This chick flick, naturally, features a wild stroke of fate, when the two-year governor of an oversized igloo becomes commander in chief after the president-elect chokes on a pretzel on day one.

The movie ends with the former beauty queen shaking out her pinned-up hair, taking off her glasses, slipping on ruby red peep-toe platform heels that reveal a pink French-style pedicure, and facing down Vladimir Putin in an island in the Bering Strait. Putting away her breast pump, she points her rifle and informs him frostily that she has some expertise in Russia because it’s close to Alaska. “Back off, Commie dude,” she says. “I’m a much better shot than Cheney.”

Then she takes off in her seaplane and lands on the White House lawn, near the new ice fishing hole and hockey rink. The “First Dude,” as she calls the hunky Eskimo in the East Wing, waits on his snowmobile with the kids — Track (named after high school track meets), Bristol (after Bristol Bay where they did commercial fishing), Willow (after a community in Alaska), Piper (just a cool name) and Trig (Norse for “strength.”)

“The P.T.A. is great preparation for dealing with the K.G.B.,” President Palin murmurs to Todd, as they kiss in the final scene while she changes Trig’s diaper. “Now that Georgia’s safe, how ’bout I cook you up some caribou hot dogs and moose stew for dinner, babe?”

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina

5:32 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

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10:45 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

E-G, Two things. Re "THIS JUST IN FROM GOD..." I take it that you do not believe in Him. There are an awful lot of warnings against false prophets in the scriptures. I don't recommend it.

Concerning Sarah Palin. Once again I believe that she is a poor choice for VP and you should plan the democrat victory party at your leisure. Your post however does nothing to impugn her ethics (on the contrary actually) and everything to demonstrate the extraordinary love of a mother for her child. Assuming that Daily Kos' allegations are true (not a certainty, out not out of the question), then what you have is a mother that loved her daughter so much that at the height of her political career she was willing to put that at risk for her daughter's sake. Let's face it, a daughter having a child out of wedlock is not news anymore but it can be devastating to a sixteen year beginning her life. Moreover, knowing beforehand that the child would be born with a genetic illness or “defect”, she proved her metal, her character, and her convictions by bringing the child full term rather than taking the easier solution and ending the child’s life when no one would be the wiser. She chose life. There are fewer and fewer Down’s Syndrome children being born today, not because of any great advances in medicine but because parents are screening them out and choosing to end the child’s life rather than accept God’s will and give thanks for the loving, living gift of a child. Take your blinders off E-G – that is heroic.

10:46 AM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

Norman wrote'Re "THIS JUST IN FROM GOD..." I take it that you do not believe in Him.'

Normy, did you ever go to college? An accredited college where you had readings and essays and term papers to write (which develops reading comprehension and issue identification)? I don't mean one of those big schools or community colleges (like those Palin attended) that don't require that and test by scantron (which develops multiple quessing skills or repetition, which is what you do re: Repuke speaking points)?

The point being made was not that I think I'm God and what I wrote was from God (a blasphemous thought). Phony Repuke "religious" leaders prayed that God rain on the DNC event at Denver's stadium and got Gustaf instead so I think Gustaf is an act of God as defined in insurance riders (whereby you get no coverage unless you buy seperate insurance for each type of natural disaster).

Since you have a problem reading and comprehending, how about if you try to learn the point by way of a song:

First the intro from Huffington Post:
"God is angry at the Republicans for trying to ruin everything that is good so he is sending a hurricane back to New Orleans to coincide with the RNC. Hopefully God is just sending a warning and all will be well along the coast and we will elect Barack Obama president and put things right with God and his son, Lord Baby Jesus. In the meantime, here is a song to track the storm and/or pick up your credentials by...."

Now the link to the referenced song entitled "More of the Same":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cbcv5fWxa0

3:46 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

Normy, what proof do you have that Palin knew she was having a "Down Syndrome Baby"? If she takes on faith the baby she conceived why would she get ultrasound scans or whatever?

What's heroic about Palin's laughingly, ridiculing a cancer victim or laughing at that lady's weight issues?

I suppose you thought it heroic of Bush to bravely don a flight suit in front of a banner declaring "Mission Accomplished" while being far out to sea and away from the scene of where thousands of young Americans died so that Bush's big oil patrons could once again control the oil Saddam wrested from them.

As to who you claim is heroic: "an op-ed in the Anchorage Daily News ripped into Gov. Sarah Palin's appearance on a morning "shock jock" radio show as "plain and simple one of the most unprofessional, childish and inexcusable performances I've ever seen from a politician."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/palin-laughs-as-opponent_n_122776.html

4:07 PM  
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4:16 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

This just in from McCain:
Bristol Palin apparently did not get the "abstinence only" memo from her mother's political campaign. McCain announced today that Palin's 17 y.o., unmarried daughter confessed to her mother that she is pregnant (again?).

Guess Bristol is a "hottie" more ways than one and that she cannot be controlled by her mother. Her mother would be a 72y.o, recovering 4-time cancer patient's heartbeat away from being commander in chief/president should they get elected.

The soap opera from Alaska just gets more melodramatic.

4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me be sure I have this right. Instead of Romney for vp, McCain chose a mother of five who has a baby with Down's Syndrome and another child who is pregnant?

Doesn't Palin have a lot on her plate already to be out campaigning for the ticket?

5:32 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Nope, never went to "college"…
- THIS JUST IN FROM XYZ
- The point being made was not that I think … what I wrote was from XYZ How could I have been so confused? BTW, what difference does it make if Paul Hipp from the Huffington Post also blasphemed? Regardless, it wasn’t a debate point, but simply advice.
As to the governor, I’m afraid I don’t have proof that Palin knew the child would be born with Down’s syndrome, just news reports: Mom rejects abortion after Down syndrome diagnosis

In December, her doctor told her that prenatal tests indicated the child she was expecting in May would be born with Down syndrome...

Studies in the late 90s showed that more than 80 percent of prenatal Down syndrome diagnoses end in abortion.

Last point: I said that when so many are disposing of “defective” children, the governor’s decision to accept this child and to love this child as the Lord created him was heroic. You retorted with What's heroic about Palin's laughingly, ridiculing a cancer victim or laughing at that lady's weight issues? Which of us has a reading comprehension issue again?

There are so many areas you could choose to attack her on… her lack of foreign affairs experience, her lack of military experience to then lead the US military (should Mr. McCain pass on), her lack of diplomatic experience, anything. But you consistently choose the low road. Debate ideas. Quit mudslinging.

6:46 PM  
Blogger BOLIVIA LIBRE said...

Franco, Franco, your ignorance oozes from your pores; profusely, at least for somebody that thinks can argue about what is happening in Bolivia, historically. Go ask your patrons why the constitutional assembly failed? Ask them why Chuquisaca was requesting for Sucre to be, once again, the sole capital of Bolivia? You do know that Sucre is the capital of Bolivia and La Paz is the House of the Government, do you?

Rewarding the “crimes” you are mentioned, are you saying that Evo Morales is a criminal? Because what the opposition is doing today in Bolivia is exactly the same thing Evo did for many years and until he got in power. I like it, Evo the Goon, makes him sound like a very ugly fiction character of the Star Wars saga.

Grindiot, you keep being the same sorry human being you demonstrated you always were; whatever happened with the millions you where losing because you spend so much time writing in this blog, or is that you get paid to do it now? gossiping about a women’s private life regarding taking care of her children or grand children or her ability to get to high positions just because of her “looks”, just because she is from the “wrong” political party is low, very low. Let’s see who close to the bottom of the drain can you get?

By the way, quiet interesting Mrs. Palin is not adequate to be commander in chief of the US but you have no problem of a total ignorant, racist high scholar from Orinoca to be commander in chief of Bolivia. Are you saying that Americans are better, or more important, than Bolivians?

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey angry chihuahua, how much lower can go? There is no limit to your hate. Are your political arguments so meaningless that you are forced to attack a 17 year old girl? Leave the children alone you pathetic freak!

9:19 PM  
Anonymous social capitalist said...

Even if you don't believe the December election is all about re-election (sure, it's more complex than that), I am surprised there are no comments indicating outrage - or at least concern - that is is about re-election at all. Whether or not we are in agreement with Evo's economic and social agenda, any government seeking to maintain itself in power by changing the rules should be of concern to the democracy-minded.

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Her daughters sound like an easy hook-up, waiting to happen.

With 5 kids in the family, I guess they learned a lot from their hot-blooded mom and dad. (Hot blooded like McCain who at least is not a closeted Republican homosexual, like most of the Republican politicians)

So much for the abstinence Palin and the Republican phonies preach.

10:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does all this unwed teen mother stuff mean.

Jim, does it set a precedent with an official title like "First Unwed Teen Mother"?

Will she qualify for welfare, which in Alaska is a lot due to oil royalties?

So much for setting an example for urban teens.

What a family. Hos in the White House. Maybe her daughters listen to too much hip-hop and have low self esteem.

10:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

National Enquirer Staff writes:

All this stuff about 17 year old ho doing the nasty and getting busted and outed as a ho on a national press release by Mccain is way too much fun.

Anonymous homies are in the HOUSE! Represent!

I vote Mccain if both families live in the white house and allow cameras in for a reality show. Call it "Desperate White House Housewifes".

It could have a lot of hot teen sex, Mccain's wife in a wet tee contest with Palin (like pops mccain wanted her to do in that wet tee contest about miss buffalo or whatever). The residuals and royalties could go toward paying down the debt Bush left. Perez Hilton could be the White House press dude. Way cool.

Mccain Palin for president and wife swapping in the white house.

= Perez Hilton & National Enquirer

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11:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Franco, Franco, your ignorance oozes from your pores; profusely, at least for somebody that thinks can argue about what is happening in Bolivia, historically."

Bolilibre,

Ignorance, particularly of Bolivian history, is your forte, not mine. Your nonsense sentence ("We were extremely close to a full scale civil war during our Agrarian Revolution, many do consider it one".) about the 1952 shows ignorance beyond the sweat glands. I know of entire families blown away by military mortars and have heard in detail of the dead bodies piled up in the morgues of La Paz.

Regarding Sucre,
Sucre or La Plata, prior to the "independence" from Spain was an administrative city for the Audience of Charcas. It was the 'Bolivian seat of government’ until 1898.

The city of Philadelphia in Pennsylvania was the capital of the US until 1800.

You don't see the president of Temple College, a college in Philly, advocating for "capitalidad plena" like the 'rector', Jaime Barron, of the Universidad Mayor de San Francisco Xavier in Sucre.

Mr. Barron, like all the civicos, has a provincial mind. He is stuck in the banana republic pages of Bolivia. It is a darn shame to see them all, including the clowns in the "media luna" departments, flying their flags and singing ridiculous anthems.

Moving the capital to Sucre would be a useless economic waste that would only benefit Barron and his Sucre "civicos". I bet you they are waiting like hungry wolves for the jobs "capitalidad plena" would bring.

Franco

12:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the best they can come up with: "Bristol Palin WASN'T pregnant with Trig because she IS now pregnant!!"

Kinda like saying "I didn't rob the 7-Eleven because I was robbing the Qwik-E Mart at the same time!"

Billy T

12:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay the course, people: you got something going with this Sarah-Palin-Not-Pregnant story.

How DO we know if Bristol is really 5 months pregnant?

Maybe she's only 3 months? Maybe she is only pretend-pregnant and will have a pretend-miscarriage in one month and then all evidence is wiped out? I give Palin one more week....she will be gone and McCain is toast at this point.

Funny how they picked today to announce this who-knows-if-it's-true story, when they were hoping Gustav would be the top news. Gustav didn't turn into a Katrina and now we got time on our hands picking their flimsy story apart.

Billy T

12:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It blew up in the faces of the GOP. Who can respect a young woman who is having a child in a few months while her mother is running the country? She needs to stay home and take care of her family first. Do the right thing--resign from the race and resign from the governorship. Family first.

1:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Palins eloped on Aug. 29, 1988, and their first son, Track, was born eight months later, a fact that Maria Comella of the McCain campaign, declined to elaborate on"
Hmmmm ... "eloped"..."first son"... "eight months later"... hmmm. Like mother, like daughter.

So much for those stump speeches about abstinence.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02palin.html?hp

1:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is this woman accepting the GOP nomination? She should be home with her family raising her disabled infant son and helping her teenage pregnant daughter.

She is not a mother with true Christian values but, instead, another narcisistic politician megalomaniac trying to get what she hasn't earned, isn't intelligent enough for, ill-prepared for, nor deserves. Not only does this display poor judgment but proves that those representing me as a Christian, aren't really at all...neither representing me nor truly Christian.
Jonathan Ames Lapp

1:49 AM  
Anonymous Marty said...

Socialist capitalist said..."any government seeking to maintain itself in power by changing the rules should be of concern to the democracy-minded."

Good point, lost amid Sarah freakin Palin. Apart from staying in power indefinitely, why does he want a new constitution anyway? Jim, perhaps explain iin future blogs what's in this proposed constitution, what are its controversies etc?

Saludos

1:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These comments, just trying to comment and respond has been a task. In a word- weird. Not your father's buick as a VP candidate. All of a sudden news about the Republican party is must-see/must-read/must-comment. If they were jealous of O'bama's stardom, they are countering it with a bonafide Britney-esque celebrity. And I do not believe this was their intent. I think they have been broadsided by this. Tell me you dont think McCain wishes he had picked Lieberman as of today.

1:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim,
You need more bandwidth or something. I'm an occasional reader and I had a hard time getting my comment printed. Here goes:

If it is right to support a family like the Palin's who have an unwed pregnant teen, why doesn't the Republican party praise programs that do the same for unwed pregnant teens around the country? Instead, they cut programs, use unwed pregnant teens as scapegoats for the social ills of society, and refuse to fund more programs that will do for most unwed pregnant teens what the Palin's will be able to do for THEIR pregnant teen. Irony.

2:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bolivalibre, would you feel comfortable with a former sports journalist, beauty pageant runner up, educated at Idaho State as the CEO of the largest investment bank in the world where your investment / retirement portfolio is housed?

Why is it that the USA as a country actually SEEKS OUT the least qualified *average joe* for the most difficult and complicated job in the world??? One that requires knowledge of everything from the inner workings of world financial markets to foreign policy. AND YET, people are actually believe a barely educated PTA Mom from a barely unpopulated state is *perfect* for this job??

Celeste

2:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boludolibre:
Your heroes are the scum of the earth. Racist, fascists, ultraright religious zealots, mafiosi, crooks and hipocrits.
Sad, really sad.
Mariconvick, Costas, Sarah Palin, chenes, george, hitler, goni, tuto, reyes villa.
What a bunch of libres like you.

2:49 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

- With 5 kids in the family, I guess they learned a lot from their hot-blooded mom and dad.
- So much for the abstinence Palin and the Republican phonies preach.
- What a family. Hos in the White House.
- Stay the course, people: you got something going with this Sarah-Palin-Not-Pregnant story.
- So much for those stump speeches about abstinence.
- Why is this woman accepting the GOP nomination? She should be home with her family raising her disabled infant son and helping her teenage pregnant daughter.
- She is not a mother with true Christian values but,...


What a sad tale of hypocrisy, and I don't mean on Sarah Palin's part. Read John Chapter 4 and not just to find blog fodder.

Marty, as to why a new constitution, I‘ve been asking the same question, and perhaps Jim is right. Perhaps re-election is all this has been about since morales first proposed it. The current constitution provides ful protections for all Bolivians regardless of race/origin. Bolivia has a plethora of laws to do the same. Bolivians simply neither respect their constitution nor their laws.

4:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What a sad tale of hypocrisy, and I don't mean on Sarah Palin's part"

Hypocrisy? Excuse me but maybe if you read your bible instead of spent your time spinning this we would have something human and honest instead of the Republican "family values" hypocrisy circus.

It is confusing to me that the Palin family considers it normal to hide their daughter’s marriage and her pregnancy, unless there is something untoward going on behind the scenes. Why was this a secret?

If my daughter was about to marry the father of her child, the news would not have to be forced out of me by some mudslinging rumor.

If it is a private matter, it is Palin who has violated Bristol’s privacy by making it public in order to protect herself against these attacks. It also seems odd to me that this is presented as “Bristol Palin chooses life” when it is first of all “Bristol Palin chooses unprotected premarital sex.” I did not know evangelical Christians favored that; how open-minded.

Why is the father’s identity a secret? Why is this marriage being treated as a family shame? Why isn’t he standing next to Bristol, grinning like a bridgegroom to be?

This all seems very bizarre, and I can’t help wondering whether Bristol planned to marry this man three days ago, and what pressures she is under behind the scenes.

5:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After attacking the morals of the Democrats for years, we find this. And Palin is presenting it as a wondrous gift and her unsupervised daughter as beautiful. And the Bozo above is blaming the liberals for talking about it. Who are these people and why have they been inflicted on us?

To complete the Palin Family Values Show - Bristol might wed at the convention. Gov. Mike Huckabee could officiate. She is, after all, living proof of Mrs Palin's home schooling skills - you know, one of her qualifications to be the Vice President of the United States.

5:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Moderator Norman,
Include this in your "sad tale of hypocrisy":


The Racist Republican view of America:

African-American teenage pregnancies in urban areas = the destruction of "family values" by liberal principles.

white, Republican teens (like Bristol Palin) get pregnant = a glorious day for traditional values.

Racist hypocrites!

6:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those to whom this is applicable:

Now that the Daily Kos has retracted it's report of the Palin/baby/grandmother/Bristol incident; how do you feel that you believed the lies of this smut publication?

And can you believe it...Republicans actually have heart? That they support unplanned pregnancies, white OR black? That they love children being given birth and also those giving birth?

The US, including and especially the Republican party, give more aid to the rest of the world than any other country on Earth (in 2005, 40% of ALL aid to the African continent came from the US).

I agree with Norman, please raise the bar, cease the name-calling and stop the bile from flowing.

BTW, I thought this was a blog about Bolivia...?

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ultraleft kooks here are so incensed that Obama can't do better than be statistically tied with McCain that their best recourse is to foam by the mouth and bark against a 17 year old girl. My comment?

Down, boy!

Funny. No wonder they are always in the losing team!

(I suspect part of their frustration is that Hurricane Gustav didn't cause a Katrina-esque disaster in New Orleans thanks to the government's excellent coordination and preparation, and that Bush's "surge" strategy is so successful that once violent Anbar province has been returned to the Iraqis. Bush is already being vindicated!)

Jim, it appears that the CNE has spared us from another referendum. Naturally, Morales' government doesn't accept the ruling just because it doesn't like it.

Speaking of globetrotting Cuchi Cuchi worshipper, he of impeccable "sovereign" and "dignified" credentials (yet constantly flying in Venezuelan airplanes and a Venezuelan crew), demonstrated once again his "democratic" and "culture of life" mantra by visiting and praising those champions of liberty and tolerance such as Khadafi and Ahmadinejad. Maybe he's searching for advice on how to better repress the masses...

Now Morales (an apparently pedophile wannabe) can include in his dysfunciontal political family (Castro is his "wise grandpa" and Lula his "big brother") a "crazy uncle" like Khadafi and a "brother from another mother" like Ahmadinejad.

Weirder and weirder.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina

8:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So right you are, Anon 7:43:

Americans gave out almost $300,000,000,000 for charity in 2007.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-25-charitable_N.htm

Religious conservatives, irrespective of income, gave more to charity than secular liberals. A behavorial economist from Syracuse University, and a registered independent, Arthur Brooks, wrote a book confirming this. My favorite quote of this article: "For too long, liberals have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of American society. Although they usually give less to charity, they have nevertheless lambasted conservatives for their callousness in the face of social injustice."

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/204/story_20419_1.html

The icing on the cake: states that normally vote Democrat are at the bottom of the ranking in the Philantrophy Index.

http://www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org/cfp/db/generosity.php?year=2004

Why am I not surprised?

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina

10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Media Luna" acquires an Arctic outpost?
Palin was (is?) a member of the Alaska Independence Party.

12:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Croat jew from Katrina:

Have anyone ever told you that your brain is the size of Palins mouth?
You are so boring....

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Have anyone ever told you that your brain is the size of Palins mouth?
You are so boring...."

You are lowering the bar...come on, keep it up there.

5:17 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Anon 5:46, thanks for encouraging me to read scripture. It’s outstanding advice for all of us.

Alright, you say that you’re confused that the family hid the daughter’s pregnancy and plans. Have you considered that perhaps the daughter did not confide in her mom and dad? Perhaps she only disclosed it when the rumors started about her having been the mother of Trig. I don’t know for sure, but I do have an 18 year old daughter. She can feel intimidated about telling me her mistakes, and I’m no governor. As far as “Bristol Palin chooses unprotected premarital sex.”, she made a mistake! I would drop the word “unprotected” as well; it’s irrelevant to the situation. She should not have had premarital sex at all. She did however and must now deal with the consequences. Fortunately she believes in the sanctity of life. I’m glad you never made the same mistake, but if you had, how would you as a Christian deal with it? John chapter 8. As to her getting married to the father, I would encourage her to think twice about that. Christian marriage should not feel forced or compelled.

Anon 5:58, I’m sorry you don’t see the difference. Believe me; it isn’t that Christians don’t sin. We fully recognize our sinfulness, but we admit that sin is wrong. We don’t glory in it. BTW, I don’t recall attacks on the morals of the democrats as a whole. Many are exceptionally well grounded in Christ. Did you have a specific instance in mind?

There's a lot more I'd like to go into, but this probably isn't the forum.

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Quit mudslinging and debate ideas"

Although discussion about families of candidates may be off limits, as both Barack Obama and John McCain have argued, the news that Bristol Palin, 17 and unmarried, is pregnant does raise two questions that should legitimately be part of the conversation about the candidates.

First, what does it say about the judgment of a parent — father or mother — who takes on tasks that will necessarily keep that parent away from family and preoccupied (at least I would hope preoccupied) with the state of our country, at a time when two of the five children in that family are in particular and poignant need of special attention?

What does this say about Sarah Palin’s raw ambition?

And second, what does it say about John McCain’s judgment that he knowingly asked a parent in this situation to be his running mate, without apparent consideration for the effect that this would necessarily have on her family, and particularly on those members of her family most in need?

What does this say about John McCain’s cynicism?

What does all this say about the commitment to family values so loudly endorsed by so many McCain supporters?

5:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That the daughter of Gov. Sarah Palin is pregnant is not per se relevant to Governor Palin’s credentials to be vice president.

But her lack of significant qualifications and experience with respect to national public policy, her relatively limited education, her lack of international engagement and her rejection of science in various arenas are.

Given that Governor Palin is willing to impose her views on private family matters on others, in terms of her opposition to abortion and her commitment to abstinence-only sex education, it is legitimate to question such a parent’s responsibilities to her children.

In pursuing the vice-presidential nomination, was Ms. Palin willing to put her ambitions ahead of the interests of her daughter?

Surely she knew that her nomination would bring worldwide attention to her daughter’s pregnancy.

So much for family values.

5:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmm, let me get this straight: JFK and Clinton had youngsters in the Whitehouse; Obama is running and he has two young children...

It's alright for Democrats to ignore their children, sacrificing them for their party (and country), but NOT for Republicans?

If it was a Democrat making the same decision, you would be lauding him/her.

One more note: be careful when you dive into the 'inexperienced' argument as it WILL come back to bite you. Looking from a completely unbiased opinion, it would be easy to come to the conclusion that Obama's experience doesn't rival Palin's. Maybe equal, perhaps it could go either way.

Cheers!

7:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog reeks of sexism.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina

8:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bringing this back to the Bolivian connection: at least Obama AND Palin have better than a fourth grade education.

Then again, those of you arguing against Palin are the same ones that boast Mr Morales' achievements with his lack of formal education.

9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Barack Obama is not ready. Barack Obama's never run a city, never run a state, never run an agency, never run a business, never made a payroll, has never really negotiated," Giuliani said.

The media have scrutinized Palin considerably more than they have Obama, he said.

"Why did Barack Obama get a pass on his experience? And why is Sarah Palin's experience, which, from the executive point of view, is considerably more than Barack Obama's, under such scrutiny?" Giuliani asked.

9:37 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

Good point (anon 9:37). I've been a critic of Palin's minimal foreign policy experience and had considered Obama's complete lack of executive experience. Maybe that's why everyone's focusing on ancillary issues.

10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"JFK and Clinton had youngsters in the Whitehouse; Obama is running and he has two young children"

In those households the mother attended the child or two children as the case may be. Their family values did not result in Carolyn or Chelsea running amok and getting pregnant while teenagers which shows they were taught moral values better than the daughters of this Republican Brittney Spears from Alaska.

Contrast those families with Palin's brood of five, including:
* a "special needs" baby with Down's Syndrome that requires constant attention; and
* a pregnant, apparently promiscuous, unwed teenage daughter whose bold rebellion against her mother's hypocritical ways-like preaching "abstinence" while not practicing it (5 kids and counting) -was shown to the world when McCain outed her in his press release.

That Palin admitted being a pothead until about two years ago might explain things, don't you think?

Question: Does Palin know where her other daughter is (not the 3y.o.) and is she knocked up too?

3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, 3:46:

Fathers are not capable of taking a part in parenting their children? For example, when mom is working? Obama may very well have to contend with the same problems since, if he is elected, will obviously be ignoring his children.

Perhaps Chelsea didn't get caught...? Maybe she and her mom believe in abortion...? Maybe the circumstances just aren't the same? Don't jump to conclusions.

Abstinece should be practiced during marriage? "like preaching "abstinence" while not practicing it (5 kids and counting)" Man, I hope for your wife's sake you aren't married.

Palin is a "Pothead" because she admitted smoking pot (legally in Alaska) a couple times? Most of our politicians have come clean about that INCLUDING Bill and Hillary. Palin gets blasted for her honesty?

If you think that EVERY parent can prevent rebellion in their children you must be living in a fantasy world. Or have a six year old mentality. You obviously have NO credentials to speak on parenting.

6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Norman and 6:22,

People are not attacking Palin's daughter, they are rightly pointing out the hypocrisy of a Republican establishment that has advanced the politics of character assassination and undermined the Freedom of Religion in pursuit of power. The internet should be replete with apologies from Republicans for supporting right-wing media, religious, and party wackos who bludgeon and litmus test fellow Americans with some Biblical passages when politically expedient, while not doing so with other passages like those on fidelity, fornication, shell fish, swine, and indentured servitude. Christian Fundamentalists in the Republican Party and Media that want to impose their particular religious interpretations on others can't have it both ways:

Either, a pregnancy is a personal matter SEPARATE from government (as most open minded freedom loving Americans argue), or it isn't.

Christian Fundamentalists want to impose non-medical/religious-only beliefs on people outside of their church in a nation where your pledge of allegiance means you swear not to do that. By advocating the enforcement of her spirituality into law, Palin invited us to do something we shouldn't have to: to examine the consequences of the imposition of Palin's religious beliefs on those of us who don't share them. Hypocrites deserve worse than being put in front of a mirror that reflects the "family values"/"I'm more Christian than you" that were used to distract the nation from a rational and substantiated discussion on issues that are most deserving of our attention.

Christ was the first to advocate a separation of church and state when he declared "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Matthew 22:21, see also John 18:36). Don't you dare use him to hide your lack of integrity, self-reflection, and moral courage. Not even someone who Christian Fundamentalists believe is fit to run the country and pick Supreme Court justices; who embodies their "Christian Values"; is able to keep her adolescent daughter abstinent. If you don't want people to look at how well the politics that puts "abstinence-only education" ahead of adolescent welfare worked out for your daughter, do us all a favor, mind your own business and remember your oath to uphold the Constitution means real American patriots would sooner die than allow their or anyone else's religious-only beliefs to be forced onto others.

6:18 AM  
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8:08 AM  
Blogger Norman said...

Wow anon 6:18 AM, good points! Sorry if my response is a bit long winded, but you bring up a lot. First thanks to 6:22 PM; you made points that I thoroughly concur with, although perhaps Chelsea was perfectly proper. Your point on rebellious children is supported throughout history, scripture, and by every parent of a teenager. We still love them and are there to support them even when they make critical mistakes.

6:22, I’ll address some of your concerns in order. If I agree with you, I’ll say so.
As to Biblical passages on fidelity, fornication, shell fish, swine, and indentured servitude, first understand that we are not held to Hebrew law. We are not Jewish. At the council in Jerusalem [Acts of he Apostles, chapter 15] the apostles debated this issue heavily and came to the conclusion that the Gentile converts to Christianity should not be held to such things as circumcision, Jewish dietary law (shell fish, pork), etc. 'It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us not to place on you any burden beyond these necessities, namely, to abstain from meat sacrificed to idols, from blood, from meats of strangled animals, and from unlawful marriage. If you keep free of these, you will be doing what is right. Farewell.' [See also Peter with the centurion Cornelius in Acts chapter 10]. Jesus cuts right to the chase though with the Pharisees in Matthew Chapter 15 [vs. 1-20]. Note how he finishes:"Are even you still without understanding? Do you not realize that everything that enters the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled into the latrine? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile. For from the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, unchastity, theft, false witness, blasphemy. These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile." Paul, further reinforces this in his letters, explaining that in our freedom from the law we are still to avoid sin (such as fornication and adultery as you rightly point out.)

Concerning Palin’s religious beliefs and trying to force them onto others; look into her actions and statements as governor. She believes in creationism but said she would not use religion as a litmus test in appointing members to the school board. She opposes same sex marriage but complied with an Alaskan state Supreme Court order and signed an implementation of same-sex benefits into law. Palin's first veto was used to kill a bill that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. Simply put, it appears that she agrees with you to a great degree.


So what about the religious right and abortion? Pro-choice frames it as a choice and pro-life frames it as the taking of an innocent life. There is not a whole lot of room for compromise on that yet Palin seeks middle ground there. She belongs to Feminists for Life, a group that has spearheaded efforts to make sure pregnant and parenting college students, who have the highest abortion rates in the nation, get tangible help like medical referrals, child-care, and assistance in completing their education. She recognizes the need to do more than say she opposes abortion. There must be alternatives and assistance.

Well, you went a bit over the edge with your last paragraph, but I suppose you wanted to end strong. Let me say that when Christ said render unto Caesar..., he was telling the Pharisees to submit themselves to the authority of God and to the authority of the state and quit trying to trip me up with trick questions. He does not say to separate them, but to obey both. Saint Paul goes further in Romans chapter 13 saying that our earthly leaders are put in place by God. Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. This is not SEPARATION of Church and state, but union. Nevertheless, I concur that religious freedom must exist.

Now you started off saying that people are not attacking Palin’s daughter, but to a great degree that is not true. She got pregnant out of wedlock. That is wrong. She should have refrained. Scripture is full of examples of disobedient children in God fearing families though. Isaac’s son Jacob was a deceiver, a liar, a cheat and a blackmailer. God worked with him over decades and he became Israel, father of the 12 patriarchs. The first 10 patriarchs threw their brother Joseph in a well and then, rather than kill him (their first plan), they sold him into a life of slavery and lied to their father about it. God worked with them over the decades and turned their hearts. What is the Christian response to a rebellious child? It is to love, forgive, and support; let God work with them. Look at John chapter 4, John chapter 8. Look at Joseph’s reaction to his pregnant bride-to-be. Governor Palin’s response to her daughter was one of love, forgiveness, and support. Her response to other pregnant teens has been the same. Do you really see this as hypocrisy? Isn’t she rather the kind of centrist Republican many have been saying we need?

Sorry for the length of the response, but I thought you brought up very valid points worth a thoughtful response.

9:04 AM