Bolivia at the Abyss: A Special Report
Readers: Details are slowly trickling in about the inhumanities committed during the Massacre at Pando and its aftermath. Here is a collection of testimonies gathered by Radio Erbol.
Tonight the Democracy Center published a special issue of our newsletter, providing background on these events as well as an update. Tomorrow the Presidents of virtually every nation in South America will hold an emergency summit in Chile to offer their backing to President Morales. Argentine President has compared the threat in Bolivia to the bloody coup in Chile 35 years ago this week.
Our special report is below, embedded with links to other background materials published previously by The Democracy Center.
Jim Shultz
BOLIVIA AT THE ABYSS: A SPECIAL REPORT
At least twenty-five people are dead as the result of political violence. It is unclear if the nation will be able to steer clear of open civil war. The Bolivian and U.S. governments have taken turns kicking one another's ambassadors out of the country. The Presidents of virtually every nation in South America are convening in an emergency summit in Chile on Monday morning, with one of them calling this moment the biggest threat to a democracy on the continent since the bloody coup that installed Augusto Pinochet in power there in 1973.
This is the state of things in Bolivia and in Latin America as I write.
The Road to Confrontation
Bolivia's steady path to bloody conflict did not begin this week. The nation in the heart of South America bears the distinctions of being both the continent's most impoverished, as well as the most indigenous country in all of the Americas. Going back to the Spanish conquest, Bolivia's indigenous majority has always been driven to the political and economic margins, ruled by a whiter and wealthier elite in a political culture not unlike South Africa during apartheid.
That political imbalance began to change dramatically in 2000 with the now-famous Cochabamba Water Revolt. The Revolt, in which citizens took to the streets to take back their public water system from the Bechtel Corporation, signaled a rising up of the nation's most impoverished against economic policies imposed on the country in the 1990s by an alliance of wealthy leaders and global institutions in Washington, including the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.
In December 2005 the rise of Bolivia's impoverished and indigenous led to the landmark election of the country's first indigenous President, Evo Morales. And in turn Morales' arrival in power cemented and exploded the deep divisions between the country's wealthier eastern states and poorer western ones. Battles over a proposed new constitution, regional autonomy, land reform, and the division of new gas and oil revenue blew up into violent conflicts over and over again.
Last May, Morales, accepted a challenge from some of his opponents to put his political mandate, and theirs, to the test with an August 10th recall vote. Morales won that ballot with a huge 67% of the vote. That result and Morales' declaration that he would seek a national vote on his proposed constitution further radicalized his opposition in the eastern states.
On Tuesday, mobs of youths egged on by the region's political leaders ransacked and burned key offices of the national government in Santa Cruz, Bolivia's wealthiest department. On Wednesday the violence spread to the state of Tarija where mobs of Morales opponents invaded and destroyed the office of a local indigenous organization, leaving at least 80 people wounded.
Then on Thursday came the massacre in Pando, one of the country's smallest states but one controlled by the most violent opponents of the government. A group of indigenous campesinos, backers of Morales, headed to the local capital for a meeting, were ambushed by armed backers of the local Governor. The current body count from that attack is now 25 and climbing as more corpses are discovered in the surrounding fields. The Bolivian press has reported that machine guns were among the weapons used.
The Role of the U.S.
On Tuesday, following the violence in Santa Cruz, President Morales formally commanded the U.S. Ambassador, Phillip Goldberg, to leave the country. In retaliation the Bush Administration did the same, ordering the departure of Bolivia's ambassador to Washington. Morales cited Goldberg's suspicious meetings with two of the opposition governors on the eve of the attacks and declared, "We do not want people here who conspire against democracy."
Soon afterwards Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez jumped on the oust-the ambassador bandwagon, ordering that U.S. Ambassador out of the country as well. Then Washington ordered Venezuela's ambassador home. "The charges against our ambassadors are false and the Presidents of Bolivia and Venezuela know that," declared State Department spokesman Sean McCormack.
The U.S. has a long history of intervention in Latin America, and Bolivia has not been spared. For nearly two decades Bolivian governments been pressured by Washington to wage a "War on Drugs" in Bolivia, with serious collateral damage to human rights. Until Morales suspended the practice last year, the U.S. Embassy paid Bolivian anti-drug prosecutors a special salary bonus aimed at increasing the number of jailings each year. The bonus program produced impressive statistics for the Embassy to send to Washington, but at the cost of thousands of innocent people thrown in jail to boost the numbers.
Goldberg himself, who took over as Ambassador shortly after Morales' 2006 inauguration, has proved to be an inept diplomat over and over again. In June 2007 the military attaché at the Embassy in La Paz, a U.S. Army Colonel, decided to have a relative carry down 500 rounds of 45-caliber ammunition packed in her suitcase. The event spiked Bolivian fears of U.S. intervention and Goldberg made the public uproar even worse by going against the advice of senior aides, trying to downplay the incident as a minor mistake.
Last February, a young U.S. Fulbright Scholar revealed to ABC News that an Embassy official had asked him to gather intelligence on Cubans and Venezuelans in Bolivia. It also turned out that the Embassy was systematically asking U.S. Peace Corps volunteers to do the same – a direct violation of the laws governing both programs. Again Goldberg tried to downplay the incident as an innocent error. The Morales administration threatened to prosecute the official involved and he left the country.
I have seen Mr. Goldberg's diplomatic ineptness up close. Last year before an audience of 100 Americans in Cochabamba he made a joke about the lynching of a Bolivian woman, and dripped with condescension at the Bolivian government.
For its part, the Morales government has often used flimsy evidence to back its claims of a Goldberg conspiracy. This includes charges last year that the Ambassador carried out secret meetings with an alleged Colombian paramilitary operative, based on the two of them posing for a photo together at a crowded Santa Cruz fair. It seems unlikely that even an inept diplomat would hold a clandestine meeting amidst several thousand onlookers. Yet Morales waved the photo as evidence at a Latin American Presidents' summit.
Nevertheless, Goldberg was clearly back in the ineptness business a week ago when, in the face of new attacks on Morales by the rebel Governors, Goldberg decided to travel off and have cordial visits with two of them. Did the U.S. Ambassador pass along secret orders to launch last week's violence? No one but the participants knows what advice Washington's man offered behind closed doors, but I seriously doubt it was to unleash Bolivian Armageddon.
Morales' opponents, many driven by fierce racism, hardly needed a push from the U.S. Nor did a movement fueled by wealthy landowners need secret U.S. cash. Nevertheless, Goldberg's visits were one more demonstration of his chronic diplomatic tone deafness, this time setting off a major crisis in Washington's relations in Latin America.
The incident also cost both the U.S. and Bolivia one of the most competent Ambassadors either of them had, the Bolivian envoy to Washington, Gustavo Guzman. A respected former journalist, Guzman had established good ties with an administration in Washington that has very few of them to Latin America. Guzman noted, "We had achieved a channel of dialog [in Washington] that today, regrettably, has been lost."
What Next?
At this writing, the Morales government is in negotiations with one of the opposition governors, with each side looking for a peaceful way out of the crisis – maybe. There are forces competing between negotiations and battle on both sides. In response to Thursday's massacre Morales has also sent troops into the embattled Pando region and declared a State of Emergency there, which includes a curfew and a ban on political meetings. Road blockades have left parts of the country without fuel and with potential food shortages.
Politicians in the U.S., stuck in dueling tough-guy mode, have ignored the racist attacks and focused on the sideshow of Goldberg's ousting. GOP Presidential nominee John McCain warned, "…Bolivia's expulsion of the American ambassador there, reminds us anew of the dangerous trends in our own hemisphere." Democratic nominee Barak Obama issued a similar declaration through a campaign spokeswoman. "Obama is encouraging President Morales to reconsider his current path for the good of Bolivia, its people, and its future relationship with the United States." Two key members of Congress have called for an end to a Bolivian trade agreement over the Goldberg matter.
Latin American leaders, on the other hand, focused on the central issue at hand – the violence aimed at Morales supporters and the threat to Bolivian democracy. On Monday the Presidents of Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Paraguay, Ecuador and Venezuela (and likely Peru and Uruguay as well) will join Morales at an emergency summit in Chile to offer him their strong backing. Even staunch Bush ally, Colombian President Uribe, has rallied to Morales' side.
The meeting was called by Argentina's President, Cristina Fernandez. A Buenos Aires daily quoted her linking the attacks against Morales with one of the bloodiest memories in the region's recent history.
"If we don’t act now, in thirty years we may be watching documentaries [about Bolivia] like those we see today about Salvador Allende [the democratically-elected President of Chile ousted by Pinochet in 1973].
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Bolivia at the abyss....thats just what the US and its allies in the bolivian right want. They want to make Bolivia ungovernable. Ironically, this is a method used by the bolivian left in the past.
Bolivias govt needs to take action against the rogues somehow were able to get and run around with military weapons!
Brian
Just how many people supported the far right white bolivians..THis is important because we are being misled by the scale of events to believe Bolivia is divided...NOT SO:
Here is an analysis of the recent elections:
http://boliviarising.blogspot.com/2008/08/bolivia-recall-referendum-final-numbers.html
It concludes:
'Conclusion
The press is quick to describe Bolivia as "a country divided". This is obviously far from the case. In fact, President Evo Morales enjoys popular support in six of the nine departments that make up his country. Two out of every three Bolivians voted for him to continue as their President. And as for the autonomy rebel movement, once you leave the city of Santa Cruz (not the larger department that actually voted for Morales), those who oppose Morales are few and far between.
Last Sunday's vote was called "exemplary" by the overseeing international neutral observers, and very few if any serious incidents were reported. It was undoubtedly an overwhelming victory for President Morales. However it also showed that the much talked about autonomy movement is not a nationwide curse, but in fact centred very much on one single city. Ruben Costas is now being shown as the Emperor With No Clothes (though perhaps we can leave him his underpants).
Once these figures are looked at closely, it becomes difficult to understand the ostensible claim of Santa Cruz and its push for autonomy. It cannot claim the backing of the wider department, because without the regional capital Evo Morales won the popular vote. By demanding some sort of breakaway from the country of Bolivia, a single city would be trying to usurp a geographical area many times larger than itself. The city of Santa Cruz has, of course, the right to vote the way it prefers. But if it pushed for the autonomy it demands, it would have to leave behind the greater region and become a sort of Bolivian Vatican City!
This is, of course, ridiculous. We should therefore see the call for autonomy for what it is; a single city's complaint against its national government, something that is common worldwide and not any reason to continue ignoring national laws. The time has come to recognize Santa Cruz for what it is, namely a city bent on anti-democratic behaviour and not the centre of some oppressed nation that deserves the world's attention.'
Brian
Why no comment on the recent meeting between Iran and Bolivia?
Evo is what we call terco (stubborn) there is no way he'll compromise.
There is absolutely no hope for dialogue. This will not end well
=(
Hey Jim or anyone else, who's really the top guy of the opposition? I thought it was Costas, but lately it seems thar Marinkovic is the guy behind the throne. Am I off on my assessment?
Either way it's a damn shame all around. Any news on whether the oppositions request to be at the meeting tomorrow was accepted? Media was reporting that they sent a letter to UNASUR
'Evo is what we call terco (stubborn) there is no way he'll compromise.
There is absolutely no hope for dialogue. This will not end well '
Anonymous, ever hear of Democracy? Even after the recent elections, the 'opposition' still is dissatisfied, and wants to destabilise the country in the hope of ousting Morales. What they want is power, not just a little but a lot.
Why has Morales and his govt to 'compromise'? What does this mean? You mean share power? Of just ensure that Morales and his govt dont work for the good of the native people?
"At least twenty-five people are dead as the result of political violence. It is unclear if the nation will be able to steer clear of open civil war."
I do not agree with the Democracy Center's above assertion of a possible civil war in Bolivia. It is clear from the facts that the recent massacre in Pando was carried by criminal elements hired by Leopoldo Fernandez.
The so called "insurrections" in the medialuna are nothing more than criminal acts perpetrated by hired goons.
Franco
It is incredible how you guys distort information.
Brian,
Do you know that the Prefectura in La Paz denounced days before the "referendum revocatorio" that there were 212,256 cases of people that could vote irregularly in the referendum? http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080806_006356/nota_247_646501.htm
Carlos Valverde (one of the most watched and respected journalists in Bolivia) took a small sample of the voting records in Santa Cruz and after he analyzed them he found that several people borned in 1700's had voted in the last referendum.
How about the scandal a month before the referendum in which the Bolivian national ID office was found to have issued thousands of cloned ID's with the help of Venezuela? http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20080714_006333/nota_249_631796.htm
Do you really think that after the massive fraud that the MAS orchestrated "two out of every three Bolivians voted for him to continue as their President"????
Santa Cruz has never "demanded some sort of breakaway from the country of Bolivia." Autonomy is a a just and rightful demand that dates back decades. - BTW I am from La Paz.
Let me give you an example: how would you feel if your local education, health, security authorities are appointed directly by a central government in which you/town/city/state has absolutely no participation in the decision?
I bet you would not like it.
Autonomy is not only the demand of Santa Cruz, are you forgetting that Beni, Pando, Tarija and Chuquisaca are also for it? Do you know that in La Paz, Cochabamba and even Potosi there is a growing sentiment for autonomy?
I am sick and tired of people with a Romantic view Morales, distorting the facts.
Please open your eyes. Evo Morales has not propelled change "in a democratic way, without guns; by the vote, the dialogue and consensus," as Bolivia Rising claims in one of their posts.
Morales has disregarded the rule of law in Bolivia, obliterated institutionality and divided our country with his caustic rethoric.
How can we talk about the democracy when the constitutional project of the MAS was approved "en grande" in a Military base in Sucre?
Do democratic governments send hordes of partisan cronies to block the opposition from entering the Bolivian Senate while fundamental laws are being unilaterally approved by the ruling party? (Juancito Pinto, Renta Diginidad, Ley de Tierras... three sieges and counting)
When the constitutional project of the MAS was approved in detail in Oruro, the articles where not read aloud, the president of the Constituent Assembly would simply read the number of the article but not its contents and then ask for a show of hands to approve it. Can this shameful spectacle be considered voting? Is slashing by almost 90 percent of the funds the "prefecturas" receive from the IDH a token of good will to build a national consensus?
When the city of Sucre - not a group, or a sector as the government comically characterized the entire city - took the streets in protest to what had been transpiring in the constituent assembly about their demand for "capitalia," two university students where shot by arms of a caliber only used by elite forces of the army and the police.
What about Yacuiba? Do you know that army commando that was part of the presidential palace detail was caught after he bombed a TV station on a SUV rented by the Venezuelan embassy?
And what about Cobija recently? I don't condone violence in any way.
I am quite saddened for what happened in Cobija.
But do you know that last Monday, journalist Carlos Valverde denounced that a congressman for the MAS (Miguel Becerra) and Juan Ramon de la Quintana were giving out checks, recruiting and arming people in Riberalta?
Morales and his ministers have not had any problems in sending its jackals do the dirty work...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT ABOUT THIS GOVERNMENT!!!!
Diego, 2:16am: Very good questions that few want to consider.
anon 2:16
You claim Balverde is a respected jounalist?
Pure crap, he and his family are tugs who stole land from the poor natives and now slave them in their fields.
Moreover he is member of the Nazi party just like his father who organized the Falange Facist Party in Bolivia.
So now on the press and TV that he owns can keep his propaganda.
You right wing asesins are used to lie and lie so much that is a shame.
The apartheid in Bolivia is real. The medival way of dominance has been interrupted by Evo so the mercenaries hired by Costas, Fernandez, Marinkovic and supported by Golberg are professional right wind squads killing poor peasants who hoped to have a better life and at last civil rights since human rights have long been dennied to them by the white wanabees.
STOP LYING PLEASE.
Ahhhh the fascist neo indigenous gringos and their ano henchmen are trying to have a party around here; some short comments about your distorted idea of the true in Bolivia.
Radio Erbol is a maSSist run institution, it is the radio version of TV channel 7; own and operate by Morale’s regime. You failed to mention that only radio Erbol and Channel 7 are allowed in Pando today, all other free press have being denied their right to inform the country and were forcefully and against their will being sent back to La Paz. So your collection of testimonies has one side only, yours and the one of the fascist mercenaries of Evo Morales.
Thank you for the rest of the report, it clearly shows how the maSSist regime was plotting against democracy and human rights to build their view of country trough violence, for many years.
The Americans didn’t ignore racist attacks; they took very seriously the racist attacks against them spilled by Evo, his cronies, and Chavez. Maybe according to you, racism can only be expelled by clear colored people, I wander how clear people need to be to you to be able to be considered a racist by their words?
Salvador Allende was ousted by the military; Evo is being challenged by CIVILIANS, another difference you don’t seem capable of perceive. I guess the comments written by Diego sound like Chinese to you.
To all people calling the democratic fighter of the eastern region fascist, I must remind you the the fascist are: Socialists, nationalistic and totalitarian; uppssss; are not those the MAS characteristics?
I am glad Diego said what needed to be said!!
In Europe we have the same tendency of viewing Evo Morales as the "Noble Savage". He is being generally regarded as an idealistic leader of a poor Third World nation who courageously defies the "Empire".
Why don't you give your readers a critical appreciation of Morales' new entente cordiale with Holocaust denier Ahmadinejad?
I missed a word about Vice President Garcia Linera in your analysis. Garcia Linera is to me, and many others, the Robespierre of the Bolivian 'revolution' - certainly an interesting and revealing character, and definitely worth a comment, to say the least.
Quintana - is this most Machiavellian key politician a staunch advocate of democracy in your opinion? Why did you not mention him?
You dwell on Goldberg's lack of diplomatic skills, and say nothing about Chavez??
Do you seriously believe that the Bolivians will tolerate an invasion by Venezuelan troops? Have you not heard or read what General Trigo said?
Maybe you underestimate the sense of dignity and national pride of the average Bolivian.
Nobody in this country believes that Chavez would "die" for Bolivia which is what this Caribbean despot recently declared in one of his daily TV shows.
What is your agenda, Jim?
Best regards,
Wolfgang
It's easy to tell that Jim was trembling with anger while rambling about Goldberg's "ineptness" and the Media Luna's "racism." One finishes his article with a "Huh?"
His article flunks the laughing test right after reading his brief description of the "Cochabamba Water Revolt" and "landmark election" of the "first indigenous president." Uh...Jim, thanks to Morales and his minions, he helped kick out TWO democratically elected presidents. Remember that itty-bitty detail?
Oh, yeah, and what about Morales' "proposed" constitution? It was "proposed" to the people akin to the manner a rapist "proposes" to his victim his intentions. That's a main reason for the mess Morales created.
Racism is a two way street, Jimbo. As blacks can be as racists as whites, indios and/or cholos can be (and are) as racist as the Bolivian whites. Stop demonizing one side (Media Luna and the US) while sanctifying the other (Morales and Chavez). Give out the facts from BOTH sides.
Morales' dead during his government are about to surpass Sanchez de Lozada's. He's in route to earn the "big G," so to speak.
Genocidal.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
So much for Chavez:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-09/15/content_10004350.htm
I like "anonymous'" rapist analogy. He is absolutely right: The way the constitution project has been put forward, and Morales'unwillingness to discuss the issue in a civilized manner are the main reasons for Bolivia being "at the abyss".
I agree with those who point out the shameless manner in which Jim Schulz distorts the facts.
Another distortion:
UNASUR is not meeting to offer support to Evo Morales. But to discuss which should be the alternative solutions for dialog to continue in Bolivia, before the war communists brought to this otherwise peaceful country, becomes the only path forward.
DC = BOB (payed bullshit that is)
Thank you Jim for your human honest jounalism.
Right wingers like bolivialithe bre types or the katrinajews are ignorant so ignorant or abnormal humans.
Nazis, fascists from Croatia, former nazi asesins who migrated to Santa Cruz and mixed among themselves and camba whores and produced types like Costas have runing the country for the past decades. Banzer, had Klaus Barbie as his chief of intelligence and they murdered anyone who disagreed with their abuses and corruption.
Now that a honest deomcratic government is in, they refuse to obey because they do not want to release their ill conceeived fortunes and millions of land stolen from the real bolivian people.
Bolivia will be free once Evo starts listens to the social movements and stop thinking he is gandhi.
Justice, and Jail for the the prefectos asesins like Costas, Fernandez, and civics like Marinkovic.
I hope Evo gets some vitamins from Chavez to get rid of the right wing mafia once and for all. Humanity does not need asesins of poor people. GO home fascists.
Citing Erbol is no different than citing Unitel. They're both far from objective. I would be very surprised if indeed the dead campesinos were "unarmed" and they were simply going over to meet to simply talk things among themselves. On the other hand, I would not be surprised if the Fernandez did hire his own paramilitary force. The whole thing smells to me like two rabid dogs that were given a little too much leash by their owners.
I would not expect Jim to objectively state the facts in the water revolt as he has a large stake on how this is percieved in the world, but the results are undisputable: Cochabambinos are worse off.
Regarding the war on drugs, the only and the only innocent victims are the vast mayority of Bolivians that do not want to earn their living of coca/cocaine/marihuana. Cocaleros are simply drug dealers, Coca from el Chapare has only one and only one possible use and that is to make cocaine. I'm always surprised at how DC a Jim never mention the fact that Yungas coca is the only one fit for human consumption, that most bolivians only need about a pound of coca a year to cover most of their needs. (we can exclude miners, but then we have a moral dilema since the acullico simply makes them numb against the pain of the socavon.) Do not try to imply that the mules, pisacocas, pasta-base manufactures and other in jail are ALL innocent victims. I've seen this a lot, people want to make a quick buck and do not care what are the consequences of sending a kilo of coke to Brazil, they just simply want the money. The fact that they are poor, brown and masistas, does not justify their actions and does not make them angels.
Now the comedy of errors at the Embassy should not fire conspiracy concerns, but should give comfort to Bolivians at how desperate the US is trying to find some traction. Long gone are the days that you would have Crazy Eddy's used TV store or Gringo Jim's pub as cover and clandestine headquarter's for covert operations. I think the fact that they are asking peace corps volunteers for gossip regarding venezuelans just shows how patethetic the post-cold war operations of the CIA are. Back in the 70s they had 5-star generals with clearance rather than college interns with hear say as their source. On the other hand, I think Venezuela has a far better espionage infrastructure, whose only purpose is not to help the poor of Bolivia, but to support the megalomaniatic ambitions of his narcisist leader.
I'm a strong Evo supporter when it comes to creating social justice and what not. However, it is terribly dissappointing that instead of fighting corruption, plutocracy, and burocratic delays and technicalities in the judicial systems, instead he is focused on fanning the flames of class warfare. He and his acolytes are simply bogged down in a marxist world where the need of creating an armageddon between the proletariat and the capitalists is the objective sine qua non of the revolution. To this mix you add their gringo paranoia and you have the recipe for economic disaster.
The evidence put forth by Jim, Evo et al does not prove nothing. A sensible person would need some kind of special kool-aid and chicha to believe that there's something rotten in Av. Arce.
As far as the final quote, we can all conclude that Ms. Kirchner quote is an extremely ignorant person who's engaged in populism for the uninformed masses. She's comparing apples to oranges in so many levels that I'm going to go short the Merval even more.
If Evo wants to truly change Bolivia, he needs to leave his marxist way of viewing the world, fire his Montesinos (Quintana & Rada) and start acting like a real politik and that means using the US and other foreign powers for the benefit of Bolvia and not recklessly trying to start a war with everyone that does not think like him. I think his defining quote is where he said something along the lines of "whenever I meet a capitalist/neoliberal/yanquee I just want to aniquilate him, I want to drestroy him." He needs to understand that Bolivia and the world is a big enough place for most everyone to share and cohabitate peacefully.
The Argentinian President's comment has a frightening truth to it. I am praying for everyone involved.
It looks like the Army went in to Pando not so much as to protect civilians as to sanatize a botched operation that MAS organized (recruiting and arming campesinsos from as far away as Guyaramerin and La Paz, to march on Cobija, to show not everyone in the East was for the opposition.)
La Asociación Nacional de la Prensa (ANP) condenó ayer la censura que el Ejército impuso contra los medios independientes que quisieron informar sobre lo que ocurre en Cobija. En un comunicado, la ANP “expresa su más enérgica protesta por la censura impuesta por el Ejército, en Cobija, a periodistas de medios independientes que se trasladaron hasta ese lugar para cubrir e investigar los sangrientos acontecimientos registrados en Pando en los últimos días”. La ANP señala que ese “atentado a la libertad de prensa y expresión” significa también transgredir la Constitución Política, que garantiza esos derechos. “Esta actitud hace suponer, razonablemente, que los militares pretenden ocultar de la prensa independiente alguna actividad que no quieren que sea divulgada”, señala el comunicado. Advierte, además, que esta forma de censura “es la primera que se registra en el país desde el restablecimiento de la democracia” y que fue cometida por una institución responsable de hacer cumplir la Constitución.
Piden el envío de una misión
Oficialistas y opositores exigieron ayer que una misión humanitaria se constituya lo más pronto posible en Cobija y el Gobierno aseguró que esto ocurrirá una vez que se pueda garantizar su seguridad en el lugar. “Hemos pedido que vengan periodistas de la prensa nacional e internacional y las misiones que sean necesarias para ver lo que ha pasado aquí, les daremos la cooperación que necesiten”, declaró el asambleísta del MAS Beimar Becerra. Hizo el mismo pedido el jefe de Podemos, Jorge Quiroga, tras advertir el riesgo de que el paso del tiempo permita al Gobierno consolidar una versión parcial de los hechos ocurridos en Pando. “Los bolivianos quieren saber la verdad. El ministro (Juan Ramón) Quintana está borrando las pruebas”, dijo al respecto el senador Roger Pinto (Podemos). El viceministro de Coordinación con los Movimientos Sociales, Sacha Llorenti, anunció que la misión partirá cuando haya seguridad. “Una vez que podamos garantizar su seguridad en ese lugar, esta misión va a salir, y va a salir lo más antes posible”, dijo.
The truth will come out though. Real Journalist from PAT etc will enter the area from Brazil. Remember 100 policemen were on the scene and watched the fight. The army is there to sanatize reports and why journalist are not being allowed into the area. There are tons and tons of wittnesses. There was an excelent radio report of the whole battle as it happened recorded on El Deber. One of the most amazing broadcast I have every heard. Why didn't Jim point readers to this? Why is he quoting Erbol only which is obviously partial to the government? Why is the government not letting reporters in?
The government was screaming massacre from almost before any information was out as a huge red hearing as they know they were about to get caught red handed fomenting armed violence just like their agent who blew up the TV station got caught red handed.
This operation was all planned well ahead of time by the government and why the U.S. Ambasador was kicked out out of the country, so they could have a scape goat for the violence they were planning. Everyone in Cobija knew tons of people were being shipped in to march on Cobija and why the autonomistas had planned a road block (not an ambush) for them. The violence started after an engineer from the Prefectura Pedro Oshiro was shot dead in his vehicle by the Massistas, along with another citizen from Porvenir. This was the tipping point. The Mas faction beat back the autonomistas and actually took the plaza of Porvenir for an hour. The Police tried to de arm the Mas faction but were beat back. That is when the true gun fight started as the game had changed and the natives of Porvenir got out their guns.
If Morales doesn't reign in Rada and Quintana who planned and carried out this operation the campesinos will end up rebelling against EVO. They didn't sign up for this. Many were duped into going being paid "100bs con almuerzo" to go to what they thought was a "congreso" but where given arms by the local MAS organizer. The whole plan of "conqistando el orienete, needs to be dropped by the government. Why not just live and let live and let the Easterners have modern self governing policital autonomy like the local people want? What is so bad about that?
The "acurerdo" looks promising but I don't believe it will happen unless the army has given behind the scenes signals to EVO that enough is enough.
To anonymous 9:50:
"Thank you Jim...thank you Jimm. ñañañañaña!!"
You are so stupid, you probably contribute with money to the DC. You can´t read, or understand what´s in the news all over the world.?
Bolivia is being overtaken by a totalitarian government imposed by Hugo Chavez from Venezuela. How does that help the poor, the homeless. Almost three years after EVO is in goverment, has anything changed for poor people in Bolivia??
Stupid stupid stupid one hundred times.
As for you Jim. Your lies and inventions are showing more and more. You are a shame to the U.S and a disgrace to journalism.
Boliviano de a pie
Proponen la desaparición del Comité Cívico pro Santa Cruz y crear otra organización
Santa Cruz, 15 Sep (Erbol).- La “corriente de responsabilidad ciudadana” propuso este lunes el “desmantelamiento” definitivo del Comité Cívico pro Santa Cruz y su brazo “paramilitar” Unión Juvenil Cruceñista, con el fin de pacificar el país a través del establecimiento de un diálogo nacional, que encuentre soluciones a los problemas que atraviesa el país....
Anyone looking at the posts by the peanut gallery above will come to this realization:
This comments section is infested with Free Republic (FREEPERS, for those in the know) "conservative" activists.
Nothing but disinformation, sloganeering, and name calling. Very easy to recognize the spiteful mentality that hate-fest produces in its members.
Anon 10:51
Very well said.
I'm often frustrated and amazed at all these news outlets including DC, who only portray one side. Most rational people who know anything about Bolivia know that Erbol might as well be coming from Evos office directly, while El Deber might as well be coming from Costas & Marinkovics compound.
We want an unbiased objective look and analysis at the events. I'm sorry Jim but your latest article is one of the most biased and poor one I have read.
Anyone have any idea what kind of immediate impacts this violence and resulting expulsion of ambassadors has had or will have on trade with the US? Any update on where the US trade bill stands? How many jobs are at stake here?
What is the on the Bolivian jobs market as a whole? We know that with the pipeline down, millions in national revenue is being lost daily. What about other smaller industries?
Jeff
Hey now 12:21,
First, if you dislike name calling then don´t call names!!! Comprende? Same rules for everybody. Is that fair for a communist freak? or need a little bit of meditation to land on the idea.??
Second: this blog should be closed alltogether because it is a source of misinformation from the person who writes it. In Bolivia this is called "falsificación ideológica" and it has a penalty of jail.
Third: Even if they were these Freepers you mention, they have in this case the truth closely attached to the facts. You are INVENTING things that are not true!
Finally: You should be making bags or buying a machine gun if you are in Bolivia. This is going to get ugly for all, I mean all "culitos blancos"
I am a frequent reader of this Blog but not a commenter. But since many new readers will be seeing this post, I think it is useful to make a point.
As most readers here know the comments section is generally a ranting forum for the same half dozen people who seem mostly interested in seeing who can insult the other the most.
They are also obviously English speakers who spend lots of time on the Internet and mostly don't even live here in Bolivia, not exactly a representive view of opinion here. The August 10 vote is a better representation of that.
Fortunately the narrow-minded and usually right wing perspectives of these commentators are not something they try to hide. So we can thank them for that.
It's a shame this can't actually be a space for intelligent debate, but these people chased away anyone interested in that a long time ago, as readers know.
So now they will also probably insult me for stating the obvious.
You rednecks and white trash right wing newborn republicans:
Only your type of people can state that Democracy Center or Jim are a disgrace. Well perhaps he is a objective journalist, and you only want to read what the Deber, Razon, Diario, Unitel Bolivision, PAT and other sold media lie about.
Any decent bolivian knows that what happened in Pando is just a sample of what Pinochet, Banzer, and the extreme right military did in Latin America in the 70;s.
Just read the open files of the libraries due to the Freedom of Information and it is as clear as water.
So stop justifying your propaganda of accusing DEm Cen of being a wrong.
FACTS are what I read here, and only because of that I show solidarity with this page.
All the bolivian media and other sources are full of distorted events and lies.
Have you read the newspapers today? Not even menntioned the over 109 dissapeared and over 70 death and more wounded.
However, the fascists and nazis of Santa Cruz Beni and Pando are still bragging about their "macho" actions. To you people kill poor peasants or poor native people is like killing dogs or pigs.
I am so sorry that you belong to the human race. Despicable.
Vote for Palin and the Mcbush and you will see how the usa will continue in despair. Huge deficit, huge debt, banks collapsing, soldiers dying in Afganistan and Iraq, for nothing but lies of your leaders who are nothing but puppets of the Oil companies.
And you consider yourselves humans? No people you must have your brains full of violence and hatred to anyone who wants justice, democracy REAL democracy not the Florida type.
Thank you Jim and good luck, be careful with these ass holes. I never met anyone of your group, but you are the type of american who actually are the genuine ones. We love you in the world. Most people dispise the ones who write against your articles, and I personally do not like the bolivianlibre types. Just soldouts, malinches, and crooks.
Did you hear that Beavis?
AHuhehee.
She called us white trash...
AHeeheehee..
Yeah yeah.. White ... white trash
Ñiaahehee
Right back at ya!.. Lesbian whore!
Aheheehe!
It would be nice if Jim could provide the source of the quote "...with one of them calling this moment the biggest threat to a democracy on the continent since the bloody coup that installed Augusto Pinochet in power there in 1973."
Either Jim misprinted that or the South American president who said that is as stupid as stupid gets.
"Biggest threat to a democracy since Pinochet?"
Um...what about the military regimes in Bolivia during the 70s and early 80s? The tortuous presidency of Siles Zuazo in the 80s, constantly being threatened by dynamite carrying COB bipeds? What about Morales and his minions seriously damaging Bolivia's economy since the 1980s, and having (I'm being generous here) caused the resignation of democratically elected presidents Sanchez de Lozada and Mesa?
Sure there have been plenty of threats to democracy since Pinochet, Jim. Once of the main threats is president now, who is currently about to surpass Sanchez de Lozada and earn the big "G."
Genocidal.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
thanks as always for the news.
@Diego (and the other like-minded respondents)
You claim to be "sick and tired of people...distorting the facts", and so am I.
First, you suggest that the recent referendum was fixed and therefore inaccurate and favoring Morales, in spite of the abundance of international observers on site, who testify it wasn't so. The factual results should speak for themselves here:
http://incakolanews.blogspot.com/2008/08/bolivia-recall-referendum-final-numbers.html
Please note that 85% of all of the provinces voted favorably for Morales. Dispute these facts if you can--I'll wait.
Secondly in your rant, you ask "Is slashing by almost 90 percent of the funds the "prefecturas" receive from the IDH a token of good will to build a national consensus?"
Obviously not, but here are the facts you seem unwilling to acknowledge (read 'em and weep) :
http://boliviarising.blogspot.com/2008/07/evo-morales-hands-out-gas-bonanza.html
The above FACTS (Remember those pesky things? Do you actually know any?) totally demolishes two of your arguments, and therefore puts into serious dispute the rest of them in a "fool me once, shame on you" (you know the rest of the saying better than GWB, I'm sure) manner.
Given that you are obviously not stupid, I can only wonder why you claim as factual, statements so easily proven false? Are you in denial of the facts, or do you have an ulterior agenda (perhaps as an anti-Morales US-paid propagandist)??? If there is another reason, please tell us.
One can usually see when articles hit home by the responses generated, and in this case, given the rabid responses Jim's article has generated, you and the other like-minded respondents have been obviously gut-punched, and can only respond with lies.
Keep up the good work, Jim. I don't always agree with you, but it is apparent that this article hit home to a lot of people who for unknown reasons seem to want Bolivia to return to the days of neo-liberalism, when the elite were given all the wealth and land, and all that the indigenous people got was enduring hard work, virtual enslavement for little reward, and everlasting mierda.
Viva Bolivia for ALL Bolivians!
Regards,,,John
It's worth repeating, again:
"Anyone looking at the posts by the peanut gallery above will come to this realization:
This comments section is infested with Free Republic (FREEPERS, for those in the know) "conservative" activists.
Nothing but disinformation, sloganeering, and name calling. Very easy to recognize the spiteful mentality that hate-fest produces in its members."
Do any of the 'steely eyed capitalist' right wing nutsos that frequent this blog have any clue as to what the region's history is? Or are some of you actually interested in the survival of the white species, and you can all damn well assume the obvious thing from that statement.
Hey John,
We are not denying the facts, you are!!
If you love the poor so much, why the insults to the poor of your own country (rednecks, white trash).
You can´t tell your head from you ass, little less know about the history in this part of the continent.
Remember, when Che Guevara was in Bolivia in the 60s he was sold out by the same campeches you try to make look like slaves. THAT is a fact. THAT is an unchallenged argument that shows that this war is an import by obscure and cynical people like Jim Shulz and the Democracy Center.
And please drop the Freeper crap already!!
As usual, Jim has reported primarily one side of the story:
The “Referendum Revocatorio” of August 10th, had two questions, the first one on the President and VP has been addressed in full detail by Jim. The second was related to the “Prefects”, a quick review on Prefecto’s results will show that most of them are also big winners, and explains their position in the present crisis.
Comparison of 2005 and 2008 results:
Source: CNE
Percentage Percentage Percentage
2005 vote 2008 vote Difference
La Paz J.L. Paredes 38.0% 35.5% -2.5%
Cochabamba M. Reyes 47.6% 35.2% -12.4%
Oruro L. Aguilar 41.0% 50.9% 9.9%
Potosi M. Virreira 40.7% 79.1% 38.4%
Tarija M. Cossio 45.6% 58.1% 12.4%
Sta. Cruz R. Costas 47.9% 66.4% 18.6%
Beni E. Suarez 44.6% 64.3% 19.6%
Pando L. Fernandez 48.0% 56.2% 8.2%
Bolivia E. Morales 53.7% 67.4% 13.7%
This just in, from Newsweek:
Revolt of the Rich
Relations between Bolivia's President, Evo Morales, and the country's wealthy easterners were tense from the start. Since Morales's election in 2005, the eastern provinces, known as the "Media Luna," or half moon, which have grown rich on natural gas, have fought bitterly over a new constitution that would redistribute some of that wealth to the western provinces. The opposition has recently waged disruptive strikes. Protests began to take a more violent turn after Morales trounced the opposition in last month's recall election. This week at least eight Bolivians were killed in clashes. Opposition groups blew up part of a natural gas pipeline and vandalized government offices, causing millions of dollars worth of damage. They have also succeeded in disrupting trade with Brazil and Argentina, which rely on Bolivia's natural gas.
Relations between Bolivia and the United States have quickly deteriorated as well. Bolivia expelled U.S. ambassador Philip Goldberg for "conspiring against democracy" and in response the Bush administration sent the Bolivian ambassador in Washington packing. In a show of support, Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's president and staunch Evo ally, ejected the American envoy from Caracas. On Friday, Morales sent troops into the eastern provinces to restore order. To find out where it's all headed, Newsweek's Michael Miller talked with economist and Bolivia expert Mark Weisbrot, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, D.C. Excerpts:
**Newsweek: How serious is the fallout between the United States and Bolivia?
Weisbrot: I think it's serious. I think that this thing was coming for a long time. There had been a number of incidents. There was the incident with the Peace Corps and the Fulbright scholar [asked to spy by the U.S. Embassy]. And then there are the meetings between the ambassador and the opposition. Obviously he's the ambassador: he should meet with everybody. But the way he did and the timing of it was considered unfriendly. I think you have a bigger structural problem, which is that you have USAID funding groups in Bolivia but they won't disclose who they are. They are doing this now in Venezuela too. These are polarized countries. So on that basis both of these governments [Bolivia and Venezuela] just assume that Washington is doing what it has always done, which is to fund the people that they are sympathetic to.
How much influence do eastern Bolivia's large estate owners have? What kind of pressure do opposition groups exert in Bolivia?
Quite a bit. That's what this conflict is really about. You have the most concentrated land ownership in almost the entire world in Bolivia, with around two thirds of the land owned by six tenths of one percent―not even one percent―of the landowners. Obviously Evo Morales ran on a platform of land reform. He is not talking about confiscating huge amounts of land, but there is going to be some redistribution. There is the hydrocarbon revenue, which goes disproportionately to the Media Luna states with the opposition governors. So those are the two big economic reasons for this conflict.
Which one, land or hydrocarbons, is really the central issue?
That is a tough question. The hydrocarbons are more immediate because [the government has] already begun some redistribution there. Morales has not touched the landowners. So I guess you could say that [hydrocarbons] are the bigger issue.
I was in Bolivia a couple months ago and I met with the Central Bank and the ministries. The government has $ 7 billion in reserves right now in the Central Bank, which is an awful lot [considering] their whole GDP is only $13.2 billion. Most of it is owned by the prefectures, the provinces, so they have a lot of money. So it is hard to explain why they would raise such a fuss over the government wanting to take a small part of that and use it for some pensions
for people over 60, which also goes to their own residents.
How does this tie into the recent recall election in Bolivia? Wasn't that election meant to resolve this impasse between the Morales government and the opposition provinces?
It did show some things. First of all, Morales got 67 percent of the vote, which is as big as you get in politics in the world without fixing the election. And the other thing it showed is if you look at the Media Luna provinces, while it's true that the opposition won, the vote for Morales also went up enormously as compared to what he got in 2005. So his support, his mandate, really increased quite a bit since the 2005 election. What you are seeing right now is that the people who could not win anything at the ballot box are trying to use other means. They are cutting off the gas, which is very serious.
What are the financial consequences of opposition groups disrupting Bolivia's natural gas pipeline?
It's huge. It's more of a problem for Brazil than it is for Bolivia: they get half their gas from Bolivia and more than half in the industrial region of Sao Paolo. For Bolivia it is quite a lot of money. It is a $100 million estimated just to fix [the gas pipeline] and $8 million per day of revenue lost as well. But it is even worse than that because the opposition can really sabotage the whole economy. Everything that the government is doing in terms of the next five years as far as extending gas supply to Brazil and Argentina, if Bolivia can't be a reliable gas supplier then those countries are going to have to look elsewhere. So it is a form of serious sabotage. The [Morales government] is calling it "terrorism."
Will Morales's mandate enable him to act more forcefully toward the breakaway provinces or is he going to have to wait for the constitutional referendum in December?
I think he is going to have to do something. The government has been very pacifist and I think they don't get enough credit for that. Most governments in the world would have sent in the military in force and a lot of people would have been killed. He has been extremely restrained. He has tried to avoid violence at all costs and the opposition has been emboldened by that. They just keep escalating. Now they are taking it to a different stage and I don't know how much more the government can just try to ignore it. They really depend on these gas exports, as do Brazil and Argentina. Brazil issued a statement the other day that said they will not tolerate an interruption in the constitutional order in Bolivia. Whether that means they will send troops, I don't know.
Does this have a financial impact on the United States? Or is the decision to expel the Bolivian ambassador simply a quid pro quo response? Is there real money at stake for the United States?
I don't think there is really anything at stake for the United States. If [by antagonizing Morales] they push Chavez too far, there is always the chance that he could cut off oil. But it is unlikely.
What type of fallout will there from Morales' use of troops in the eastern provinces?
It depends on what the [government forces do] and on their capacity for crowd control and using non-lethal weapons. Look at what happened prior to Morales: they are still trying to extradite the former president [Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada] for all the people who were killed in the demonstrations back then. Morales has been on the other side of this and he knows that things can get out of control. So he is trying to do everything to avoid that but it's not easy when you have an opposition that is not operating by the same rules.
It is quite obvious that all the know-it-alls that have invaded this blog are ignorant of history. This is a common feature of U.S. 'conservative activists.' Socialism is a GOOD THING if your country is WEAK and VULNERABLE to CAPITALIST PREDATORS.
Let this political process take its course. The Neoliberal model has failed everywhere, including Chile, and Latin America requires something other than University of Chicago bullshit to get out of its morass.
interesting...so how do you plan on finance a socialist state in a poor country?
I'm not sure what you mean by neoliberlism. Croony capitalism has and will fail everywhere. On the other hand, free market reforms are a success in S. Korea, Singapore, China, Ireland, Taiwan, Vietnam etc., etc.
On a separate topic. The gov't appears to be Leopoldo Fernandez's best friend. They are already saying he's guilty and thus giving him a get-out-of-jail card by making it obvious he won't get a fair trail. I for one would love to see the old drag-bbq-your-intestines-in-front-of-you-make-you-eat-them-before-we-quarter-you on him, but unfortunately its not on any CPE. However, the Bolivian Justice Dept. should watch their words regarding this case. Right now, they are practically the best allies Fernandez could hope for.
To the practiced smartass @5:25:
Q. What is the only country that has succeeded with open markets, without a large amount of protectionist policies?
A. England, while going about colonizing 1/2 the world, and forcibly opening markets.
Learn more history.
To so many above:
1939: "Peace in our time."
1973: "What people in the Santiago stadium, you are obviously wrong."
2008: "Thise campesinos in Pando all shot themselves, bad aim I guess."
El Gobierno restringe el ingreso de la prensa y misiones a Pando
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Con el argumento de que aún no existen las condiciones necesarias de seguridad, el Gobierno impidió hasta ayer el arribo a Cobija de una misión de ayuda humanitaria y de los medios de comunicación, excepto el oficialista canal 7 y radio Erbol.
“Porque es una zona militar y en esa zona todavía siguen habiendo bandas armadas de narcotraficantes y de la gente de la Prefectura”, justificó anoche el vicepresidente Álvaro García Linera cuando fue consultado sobre esta restricción, que para la oposición oculta la intención de que la opinión pública no conozca versiones imparciales sobre lo que ocurre en esa región.
El sábado, el Gobierno se había comprometido a trasladar hasta Pando a una misión humanitaria conformada por la Cruz Roja Boliviana, la Unión Europea, la Asamblea Permanente de Derechos Humanos, la Conferencia Episcopal y el Defensor del Pueblo, pero finalmente dejó a los miembros de estas instituciones con las maletas preparadas para el viaje, que nunca se realizó.
El presidente de la Cruz Roja, Abel Peña y Lillo, explicó ayer a La Razón que las gestiones fueron realizadas con el viceministro de Coordinación con los Movimientos Sociales, Sacha Llorenti. “Nos dijeron que nos llamarían para el viaje y esperamos hasta las 11.00 de la noche, pero no se contactaron con ninguno (de los representantes de los organismos) y entonces decidimos abortar. Yo llamé personalmente al teléfono que me dio el viceministro y nunca contestó”.
Dijo que incluso habían preparado 850 kilos de insumos médicos y sanitarios para socorrer a las víctimas de la violencia en Pando. “El asunto es que no tuvimos la cooperación suficiente o no hubo cumplimiento de acuerdos en el Gobierno”, lamentó el representante de la Cruz Roja.
No obstante, dijo que las autoridades del Gobierno se contactaron con los miembros de la misión ayer para ofrecerles su traslado en el mismo día, lo que no se pudo concretar debido a problemas operativos. “Seguramente viajaremos este lunes”.
Al igual que con la misión humanitaria, el Gobierno negó a los periodistas una autorización para llegar a Cobija. El sábado, un grupo de medios organizó un vuelo chárter a Cobija y cuando todo estaba listo para el viaje, el Gobierno ofreció trasladarlos conjuntamente una tropa militar.
Los periodistas de La Razón, ATB, PAT y uno independiente aceptaron la invitación y llegaron a Cobija al final de la tarde, pero los militares les impidieron abandonar el aeropuerto arguyendo motivos de seguridad.
Con el argumento de que se había declarado alerta roja y que los militares no podían garantizar la seguridad de nadie, un oficial les ordenó abandonar la ciudad y los condujo hasta una aeronave que los trajo de regreso a La Paz. Sin embargo, se quedaron en esa ciudad los periodistas del gubernamental canal 7 y de la radio Erbol, discriminación sobre la que el Gobierno y las FFAA no dieron explicaciones.
Este domingo, ante la negativa del Gobierno para autorizar el arribo de un vuelo chárter al aeropuerto de Cobija, una decena de periodistas de diferentes medios privados de comunicación partió rumbo a Brasil para ingresar desde ese territorio a Cobija.
Las restricciones que aplicó el Gobierno fueron interpretadas por la oposición como parte de una estrategia para direccionar la información que se conoce sobre los incidentes en Pando. “El Gobierno, con todo su aparato, está limpiando las pruebas”, dijo el señador Roger Pinto (Podemos).
La ANP condena la censura
La Asociación Nacional de la Prensa (ANP) condenó ayer la censura que el Ejército impuso contra los medios independientes que quisieron informar sobre lo que ocurre en Cobija. En un comunicado, la ANP “expresa su más enérgica protesta por la censura impuesta por el Ejército, en Cobija, a periodistas de medios independientes que se trasladaron hasta ese lugar para cubrir e investigar los sangrientos acontecimientos registrados en Pando en los últimos días”. La ANP señala que ese “atentado a la libertad de prensa y expresión” significa también transgredir la Constitución Política, que garantiza esos derechos. “Esta actitud hace suponer, razonablemente, que los militares pretenden ocultar de la prensa independiente alguna actividad que no quieren que sea divulgada”, señala el comunicado. Advierte, además, que esta forma de censura “es la primera que se registra en el país desde el restablecimiento de la democracia” y que fue cometida por una institución responsable de hacer cumplir la Constitución.
Piden el envío de una misión
Oficialistas y opositores exigieron ayer que una misión humanitaria se constituya lo más pronto posible en Cobija y el Gobierno aseguró que esto ocurrirá una vez que se pueda garantizar su seguridad en el lugar. “Hemos pedido que vengan periodistas de la prensa nacional e internacional y las misiones que sean necesarias para ver lo que ha pasado aquí, les daremos la cooperación que necesiten”, declaró el asambleísta del MAS Beimar Becerra. Hizo el mismo pedido el jefe de Podemos, Jorge Quiroga, tras advertir el riesgo de que el paso del tiempo permita al Gobierno consolidar una versión parcial de los hechos ocurridos en Pando. “Los bolivianos quieren saber la verdad. El ministro (Juan Ramón) Quintana está borrando las pruebas”, dijo al respecto el senador Roger Pinto (Podemos). El viceministro de Coordinación con los Movimientos Sociales, Sacha Llorenti, anunció que la misión partirá cuando haya seguridad. “Una vez que podamos garantizar su seguridad en ese lugar, esta misión va a salir, y va a salir lo más antes posible”, dijo.
La Razon Sept. 15, 2008
WHo about some real facts and not half truths Jim...
1. It was the military group commander's (not the attache)family friend (not member) who brought the 45 ammunition in for Col Jim Campbell (who is an avid competion shooter and invited many Bolivia Military leaders to the range at Sargento's Club).. AND she did claim it with customs (it was all leagal)...that is why charges were not made nor was she detained for long. What the hell does that have to do with the ambassador's ineptness?
2. All embassy employees are instructed to look out for cuban so-called doctors who are alsoactually carry out intellegence and subversion on behalf of the bolivian government so that it can keep track of the oppostion... NO one was ever asked to spy on them or even collect information... We are to report them only if unusual issues were seen.. that is all THAT IS NOT SPYING like the actions done every day against american and Bolivian citizens every day by Bolivian, venezuelan and cuban intel. It WAS a mistake by the Asst RSO to brief it to PC volunteers. So again, what the hell does that have to do with the ambassador's ineptness. That asst RSO was sent home by the ambassador before morales's regime asked for his expulsion
3. Jim you are correct only on one account. The ambassador was right down condesending about Morales's regime WITH CAUSE. He had every reason to be. Morales is as inept as a leader as any vSouth america leader could be, he has a bi-polar vice president with a terrorist back ground, Quintana is a foaming at the mouth marxist/conspiracy nut who was a derelict military officer, and Rada is a plain sociopath... all part of Morales's clown show of a ministerial cabinet.
All of the employees at the US embassy who have had to deal with such a sorry excuse for government agree. I have first hand seen collosal ineptitude, corruption, and down right lies spewed by the ministers to our faces.
Our ambassador did his best to put up with an administration hell bent on using the US as a scapegoat for their failure to govern equitably... a regime hell bent on power and that has to have an enemy to exist...
BTW all of AMB Goldberg's meetings were out in the open... AND his last one with Costas in Santa Cruz there was a press conference that went with it. Hiding I think not!
The events in Por Venir are as horrible as anyone can imagine. What happened there is too important for there not to be a full OPEN OBJECTVE investigation that will require international investigators. It looks as if the Governemnet is not going to allow that. There is no one in Bolivia objective enough to do it.
Once an imparcial thorough investigation is done then judgement can be made, and then those responsible for the slaughter should be severly punished. If the government doesn't allow a full imparcial investigation it will throw a shadow of doubt over those found guilty. If the prefect ordered a Massacre he should be punished to the full extent of the law, if he didn't and it was a horrible confrontation that spun out of control then those that pulled the triggers not in self defense should be punished. There area at least 4 dead on the eastern side. Those who pulled the triggers on them should also be punished. The final consequences of this tragedy are yet to be known. All sides should reflect if their political agendas are worth more dead. Both sides should pull back away from the cliff that Bolivia is falling off of and foreign provecators should callarse.
For ballance and context on this blog the following article from La Razon should be read.
LEOPOLDO FERNÁNDEZ, prefecto del departamento de Pando, asegura que el Gobierno, el Ejército, la Policía y la Iglesia sabían días antes lo que iba a pasar.
• CON EL PULGAR ARRIBA: Leopoldo Fernández saluda a la gente en una calle de Cobija, en la jornada de ayer.
Contrariamente a las acusaciones que pesan en su contra y a las advertencias de detención, proceso judicial y condena de 30 años de cárcel sin derecho a indulto por genocidio, el prefecto de Pando, Leopoldo Fernández, sostiene que los enfrentamientos armados en la localidad de Porvenir, en los que murieron al menos 13 de las 15 víctimas en el departamento, estaban preparados por el Gobierno para provocar su caída.
Indica que no considera necesario un estado de sitio y apunta a que el Gobierno busca hallarlo culpable. Esta es la entrevista vía telefónica de La Razón con Fernández, quien ayer estaba en Cobija a la espera de su arresto por parte del Poder Ejecutivo.
¿Qué hará con el estado de sitio y la presencia militar, lo resistirá con movilizaciones?
No hay ningún tipo de resistencia a esta disposición desatinada, arbitraria e innecesaria que toma el Gobierno. El argumento es por los sucesos del jueves en Porvenir, acá en Pando, y para llevar la investigación.
No hay la necesidad de ni un solo militar, las condiciones estaban dadas. Hemos conversado con la representación de las Naciones Unidas y con el Defensor del Pueblo (para que vengan); ya tendrían que haber llegado, pero el Gobierno no ha autorizado la posibilidad de aterrizar al avión de ellos acá en Cobija. Seguro porque les interesa una investigación que me inculpe, como ya lo han dicho, creo que hay un mandamiento de arresto para mí y tienen que hacerlo bajo su control, que no participe nadie.
Quieren mandar una comisión del Congreso, bienvenida. Si tiene que haber una investigación, lo importante sería que sea con gente que la garantice.
¿El diálogo puede avanzar en medio del estado de sitio?
Es muy difícil, de todas maneras se están haciendo muchos esfuerzos de nuestra parte. He pedido que no sea un obstáculo y además el Conalde ha dado señales con el levantamiento de algunas medidas que existían como los bloqueos. Lamentablemente el Gobierno lo ve eso como una debilidad y debiera hacerlo más bien como un enfoque de que hay predisposición para hallar soluciones mediante el diálogo. Todo esto es una farsa del Gobierno, ya lo ha demostrado en otras oportunidades, el pueblo boliviano está siendo timado. A nosotros (a los prefectos) se nos ha tomado el pelo muchas veces en este, entre comillas, escenario de diálogo, que es propiciado por el Gobierno. Sin embargo, aunque las expectativas para el diálogo son pocas y parezca paradójico, hay que tener esperanzas
¿Quién controla Pando, usted o los militares?
Yo sigo siendo el Prefecto. Se ha estado especulando de que yo ya no estuviera acá, que hubiera fugado, nada de eso es verdad, es un embuste más del Gobierno. Ellos controlan militarmente, pero nada más que eso, nosotros tenemos la aceptación del pueblo, hemos sido elegidos, y si hubiera sido verdad de la responsabilidad en este tipo de matanza, oiga, qué clase de gente hay en el departamento de Pando para que no sea el propio pueblo el que repudie este genocidio, como lo califica el Ejecutivo. Por mi parte, al contrario, yo creo que aquí hay una repulsión por todo lo que ha sido la planificación por parte del Gobierno para que se dé esto, para que se pueda dictar el estado de sitio y para hacer de Pando la cabecera de playa que necesitan para seguir consolidando su proyecto en todo el país.
¿Se cumple el estado de sitio?
No, en absoluto. Hay tranquilidad, no había un solo militar por las calles. Están en el aeropuerto que lo han tomado. Hoy (ayer) hubo una marcha por la paz, aparecieron algunos militares, pero se llevó la marcha.
¿Siguen tomadas algunas instituciones estatales?
No, porque nosotros habíamos tomado la decisión, hace tres días, de clausurar aquello que no se maneja bajo ese régimen centralista, y en nuestra consolidación de nuestro proceso autonómico estamos llevando adelante en cada uno de los casos un proceso de institucionalización con directores ad hoc, encargados de llevar adelante este proceso dentro de las vías legales. Por lo tanto, eso de ver a las instituciones públicas como si fueran un fortín, quién estaría adentro y quién afuera no es lo principal, sino cómo va a ser su funcionamiento y también quién la va a administrar.
¿Teme ser detenido?
Por supuesto, siempre uno está preocupado. No sé cómo se puede hablar de un proceso de investigación y ya hay una operación militar para mi detención. Yo puedo darle esa garantía al país de que voy a estar aquí en Pando y podía decirle al Gobierno que no gaste tanta plata, que no haga tanto show que esta farsa no tiene sentido, que no voy a escaparme, que voy a esperar a las comisiones.
¿Participaron empleados de su Prefectura en Porvenir?
No, el Gobierno anda hablando de sicarios, funcionarios, que peruanos, que brasileños, que francotiradores... eso es lo que tiene miedo el Gobierno, de que con un proceso de investigación se aclare todo aquello. Si fuera verdad todo lo que señala el Gobierno, cómo podría el pueblo pandino estar tolerando que yo todavía siga siendo su autoridad.
Ojalá toda esa dureza que utilizan conmigo, respecto a lo que serían las sanciones a mi persona por culpable —ya me culpan y sindican sin previa investigación—, puedan aplicar a las personas que resultaren responsables de un buen proceso de investigación. El Gobierno no va a tener cómo explicar esto tarde o temprano.
¿Qué es lo que sucedió en la población de Porvenir?
Con tres o cuatro días de anticipación ya lo sabía el Gobierno, el Ejército, la Policía, la Iglesia Católica. Ya lo tenían preparado todo, votos resolutivos, renuncia del Prefecto, toma de la Prefectura, desde qué punto iban a salir, cómo iban a llegar a Cobija... hemos pedido que estas instituciones intervengan para que esto no ocurra. Cuando se quemó las dos camionetas de los campesinos que llama el Gobierno y que venían en una marcha pacífica entre comillas, esas camionetas reventaron como un polvorín, tenían un arsenal adentro. Durante varios minutos se dieron disparos, alguna gente caída de ese bando tenía cintillos de colores diferenciados, seguro para distinguirse ante la eventualidad de una refriega como se dio, esto es una demostración más de que había planificación. Tengo tranquilidad y la participación de sicarios y funcionarios de la Prefectura es una más de las mentiras, los embustes a los que nos tiene acostumbrado este Gobierno y con su capacidad de información que tienen que estereotipa la realidad.
¿A raíz de ese polvorín se dieron los muertes?
No. Eso fue al final cuando termina la refriega, en una avenida de Porvenir y con la Policía al medio Eso de emboscada no hubo. La Policía con 50 efectivos estuvo durante la balacera, ellos pueden decir cómo comenzó la cosa. Por eso no se permite que venga nadie a ver este tema, para eso es este estado de sitio, para crear las condiciones de llevar una supuesta investigación para tener una documentación fraudulenta, pero aquí en Pando todos saben qué es lo que ha pasado realmente.
La Razon Sept. 15, 2008
Ok, listen you 21st century quack rebels.
Why is China moving faster toward a market economy. Why????? If socialism is such a great idea?
And why is Cuba still using their 50´s cars left by the people who used to be the oligarcas in the island more than 50 years ago!!! For heaven´s sake, people....Wake up already!! Cubans live a life full of MISSERY. They have to work from the moment they turn 11 years old, cutting sugar cane or collecting oranges in exchange for what is supposed to be a free education, a gift from Fidel Castro.
A medical doctor in the island makes little more than 30 dollars a month!!
Please, don´t dare repeating that socialism is good for a weak country. That is the biggest lie, and if you can´t see it then it´s because you are either brain damaged or payed up with the intent to send Bolivia and bolivians to their worst nightmare.
Jim, you are leaving out one important detail: Marxism. People in the east don't want to watch as everything they own and have worked for gets confiscated by those who for whatever reason produce nothing. Would you like it if I came in and took your Democracy Center and all its computers and office space just because I could? And then told you you were an exploiter and couldn't get a new one because you were the enemy of the people? That's what is going on in Bolivia today. Until Morales can learn to govern without stealing from others, or at least stealing so much, there will be people out there willing to pick up a rifle and fight him, especially when there are foreign troops around defending his brand of sos Marxism first perfected in the soviet union. Those sorosite-trained venezuelan opposition people did come down and try to reason with the media luna people and tell them to do what gandhi did, but in light of the lotta good that's done them in venezuela, which is to say none, the crucenos see no point to that hippie soros stuff. Nor do I.
Why don't you tell your little buddy Morales to quit stealing from others, quit chasing out foreign investment, quit chasing out all the local talent and get back to me about the result. You would be shocked. But then again, you would no longer be the richest guy in your barrio anymore, so I doubt you could take it.
CHAVEZ = HITLER
MORALES = MUSSOLINNI (WITH THE WORST HAIRCUT EVER)
ANON 10:12pm
You going to here crap about the evil US embargo but Fidel and Che ruined the economy from the get go... the Soviet Union subisdized Cuba with more money than any other gov in history...
But don't forget that Cuba is stil suffering under one of the most brutal totalitarian governments in the world...
No passports to travel., How many cuban tourists do you see anywhere?..
btw the Cuban doctors in Bolivia have thier passports taken away when they get here and are issued a bolivan carnet.
No internet, no tv or radio but gov channels, and no cell phones becuase the overbearing communist regime wants to keep the people from the truth.
Over 40 cuban doctors a year have been granted assylum by western governemnts since getting to Bolivia
Hey Julio,,,
You claim that “We are not denying the facts, you are!!”
My reply is if that is so, then factually dispute the facts I presented, instead of posting such weak and scurrilous attempts at insults.
You claim that I made “insults to the poor of your own country (rednecks, white trash)”, and I never made such statements. Prove me wrong, Julio.
And then explain to all viewers just who it is really that can’t tell one’s ass from their head?
You tell me to “please drop the Freeper crap already!!”, and again I made no such statement.
The real topper, as far as your self-ridiculing statements are concerned is your last one, where you claim “that this war is an import by obscure and cynical people like Jim Shulz and the Democracy Center,” and hilariously try to blame this war on Jim and the DC. What a HOOT! (Believe me—even your mentor Karl Rove would be embarrassed by you.)
Friendly suggestion: Try a reading comprehension course before further posting, please. Or stay out of the booze. Or better yet,,,both.
You’re just embarrassing yourself (not to mention humanity in general).
With deservedly lesser regards,,,John
Jim you are correct only on one account. The ambassador was right down condesending about Morales's regime WITH CAUSE. He had every reason to be.
Morales is as inept as a leader as any South america leader can be, he has a bi-polar vice president with a terrorist back ground, Quintana is a foaming at the mouth marxist/conspiracy nut who was a derelict military officer, and Rada is a plain sociopath... all part of Morales's clown show of a ministerial cabinet.
All of the employees at the US embassy who have had to deal with such a sorry excuse for government agree. I have first hand seen collosal ineptitude, corruption, and down right lies spewed by the ministers to our faces.
Our ambassador did his best to put up with an administration hell bent on using the US as a scapegoat for their failure to govern equitably... a regime hell bent on power and that has to have an enemy to exist...
BTW all of AMB Goldberg's meetings were out in the open... AND his last one with Costas in Santa Cruz there was a press conference that went with it. Hiding I think not!