Friday, September 12, 2008

Where is Bolivia's Violence Headed?

Here's an updated look Sunday Morning at the crisis in Bolivia. We'll continue to update the Blog frequently.

The Massacre in Pando

The death toll from Thursday's massacre in Pando, outside the city of Cobija continues to climb. On Saturday the Minister of Government in Bolivia announced that another ten bodies had been founding in the fields surrounding the site of the violence, bringing the total to 30, according to a report from Radio Erbol. The deaths occurred when armed operatives of the local Governor set out to intercept a group of campesinos coming in from the countryside for a meeting. Their weapons included machine guns. The remote department of the country has been under a declared "state of emergency since Friday night, declared by President Morales. Shortly afterwards supporters of the Governor reportedly broke into a local gun store and left with a fresh supply of arms and ammunition.

For those wondering why the Morales Government decided to take the extraordinary action of sending in troops to Pando this weekend, taking control of its capital, the massacre of the campesinos is the answer.

Military Moves

In the face of a week of bloody conflict, the Morales government has taken the decision to dispatch the country's military force to the areas of conflict. The moves were first signaled by twin statements yesterday by Morales and the head of the nation's Armed Forces, General Luís Trigo, then followed by the declaration of a "state of emergency" in Pando and the taking of the airport there by force. Now Saturday morning there are solid press reports of the movement of tanks and troops towards the nation's eastern departments.

Friday in a speech in Quillacollo (near Cochabamba), Morales took responsibility for leaving soldiers and police defenseless against mobs in Santa Cruz and Tarija. “I want to say a truth, that perhaps I am guilty for telling the Armed Forces and the National Police not to use arms against the people and perhaps because of that some groups took advantage to offend and humiliate the Armed Forces and to the National Police,” said Morales.

Later, General Trigo announced Friday that, "We are not going to tolerate any more the actions of radical and violent groups that are only bringing confrontations between Bolivians, causing pain and suffering between brothers and threatening the nation's security." The General also sent a public message to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez that the Armed Forces would also not allow any intervention by Venezuelan troops in the current crisis. Yesterday Chavez declared the he was prepared to send in troops to "defend' Bolivia if the Morales government is toppled by the violence in the country's east.

Then on Friday night Morales declared a formal "state of emergency" (estado de sitio) in the department of Pando, the site of yesterday's massacre of campesinos trying to reach the city of Cobija. The declaration invokes a wide variety of suspensions of rights, among them: a curfew between midnight and 6am for any group of more than three people; a prohibition on carrying arms and explosives at any time; prohibitions against political meetings and protests; and the required closure of all bars and restaurants by midnight. The decree is similar to one issued by then-President Hugo Banzer in April 2000 in Cochabamba during the Water Revolt, though that curfew began at 10pm.

This morning La Razon and other news outlets report a movement of tanks and troops from La Paz and Cochabamba in the dorection of Santa Cruz and the east. A military commander is quoted, declaring that any movement of troops is strictly to protect public safety and to uphold the constitution, an intended response to underlying fears that the military might have some intent more sinister in mind.

No Gas in Cochabamba

As a result of sabotage against gas pipelines in the nation's east, at least come gas stations in Cochabamba have posted signs that they no longer have gas for cars and don't known when they will. A very large portion of the region's vehicles run on gas, in particular public transit vehicles such as Taxi Trufis. While many will switch to gasoline for now, which apparently is still available, this will certainly make transit more difficult and will raise the fares to cover the higher price of fuel.

Brazil Readies an Evacuation Plan for its Citizens

A Brazilian newspaper, Correio Braziliense has published a report that that the Brazilian government is preparing an evacuation plan for its citizens in the embattled regions of Bolivia. "The government now has a plan to remove the Brazilians from the regions of Bolivia where the conflicts between the government and the opposition are taking place, principally Santa Cruz," an official is quoted. The Brazilian government has also called on its citizens visiting Bolivia as tourists to leave and for those planning to go to cancel their visits.

Two Congress Members Reverse Position on Bolivia Trade Pact

In the wake of the Morales government kicking U.S. Ambassador Phillip Goldberg out of the country, two members of the House, Republican Dan Burton and Democrat Eliot Engel, have announced their withdrawal of support for extension of an important trade agreement with Bolivia that is key to textile exports from the highlands that are a part of Morales' political base.

"In the past, I have been a firm defender of the long term extension of the package of commercial preferences for Colombia, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia," said Burton. I have indicated time and time again that the people we help with these preferences are creating profitable jobs as alternatives to the illegal activities. Nevertheless, today I must say that, due to the decision of Bolivian President Evo Morales to declare to the Ambassador of the United States in Bolivia, Philip Goldberg, 'persona non-grata' that I can no longer support the extension of commercial preferences for Bolivia."

Tarija's Governor Heads to La Paz for Negotiations with Morales

The one good piece of news today is that Tarija Governor Mario Cossío announced that he was headed to La Paz this afternoon to open a negotiation on the current crisis with the Morales government. Radio Erbol also reported that Santa Cruz Governor Ruben Costas has endorsed the negotiation effort. "I am completely convinced that this is the last opportunity to begin a process of reconciliation and leave behind the process of confrontation," Cossio told reporters.

What an End to the Conflict Would Look Like

There is no question that these conflicts this week have pushed Bolivia farther toward the abyss than at any time since the return of democracy a quarter century ago. And what makes it so is the absence of any obvious way for it to end. This isn't October 2003 and the crisis surrounding President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada. His popularity was at rock-bottom lows and his departure was inevitable. Morales, freshly backed by 2/3 of voters, is not going anywhere (nor should he). On the other hand, the rebelling Governors also enjoy popular support in their regions and the mobs behind them aren't likely to back down.

So I look back to January 2007 in Cochabamba when I was at ground zero of the violence there that turned the city into a war zone for an afternoon and left three men dead. How did Cochabamba go from that violence to a fragile peace?

Most importantly, the leaders on both sides took the deaths as a wake-up call, a warning about how bad it could get. The backers of Morales took to the streets more peacefully. The stick wielding-youths of the city's middle class who backed the Governor stayed home. The angry cats of politics unarched their backs and stopped trying to scratch one another's eyes out.

The leaders in these conflicts, on both sides, have a huge moral obligation to call on their followers to abandon violence. In Santa Cruz those leaders only fanned it. But maybe blood will make even them wiser. We can hope. Then those leaders must use the fragile truce that comes to negotiate, for time to begin with, and then for some longer way forward with the time they buy.

The danger of course is that violence like that this week tends to only lock people into more opposing positions. Reconciliation with people you believe to be racists is not easy, nor is being on the minority end of the political stream roller that MAS has become.

The question in Bolivia tonight is whether those headed toward deeper conflict love their political positions better than they love their country. Let’s be clear. The issue is not gas and oil revenue, that's an easy fix. The issue isn’t even a new Constitution, a harder issue but also one where compromise could be found if both sides wanted it. The nuclear core of this meltdown is emotional and deeply rooted, wrapped in race, and history and privilege and fear.

But you can also bet on this. Those affluent owners of businesses in Santa Cruz – the cafes and the factories and the hotels – they aren't sitting around tonight happy as clams that their city has become globally synonymous with violent mobs. Their most prized week of the year, Epocruz, is less than two weeks away and there isn’t a hotel room to be had in the city for that week. If both sides are smart they'll use that as an opportunity to buy a week of peace and use that week to find a way forward that can hold. Or they can hold hands and jump over the cliff together, each side convinced in the rightness of their view.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever it takes to take the indio down boy ... Pando is like Texas... you don't mess with them ...

Pandinos git 'r dun ...

8:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Violence was brought by Morales, no doubts about this. Any solution will require lots of effort by all sides to build trust and a viable political agreement. However, Morales does not want a solution.
At least 50 Bolivians are dead, hundreds were wounded, troops are "occupying" Pando.

With the NAS out of the Chapare the only winners are exporters of a certain white illicit substance.

9:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pando is like Texas in that it has(had) a criminal Fernandez/Bush as a governor.

Having met Leopoldo Fernandez, I can tell you that the guy is pure evil. He doesn't have a single redeeming quality and I am not surprised that he hired Brazilian mercenaries to fire upon unarmed protesters.


ps ALL pandinos are indigenous. The few "whites" are mostly bastards who kept the "suarez" surname....

9:46 PM  
Blogger El Grindio said...

Anon 8:42PM,

Please keep posting. Could you please articulate in detail, the explicit meaning of:
1) "to take the indio down boy";
2) "Pando is like Texas"; and
3) "Pandinos git 'r dun".

I thank you in advance.

The Intellectual Author of "El Grindio", an intellectual property test marketing fictive disourse and narrative discourse with a human-like face.

PS. I look forward to meeting you in Los Angeles, San Diego or Bolivia, as appropriate regarding venue and forum.

10:14 PM  
Blogger Arthur said...

Hi Jim.

I would like to know more about the role of USA in the articulation of the opposition political forces. The accusations of Morales have foundation?

11:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many months ago I wrote in the blog hoping Morales would take the high road like Mandela did in South Africa. But his language or lack thereof left me convinced that he is incapable of compromise just as the leadership of Santa Cruz. He should not have followed Chavez but should have sought counsel of Lula. Revolution does not work and not sustainable. Morales should have taken an evolutionary path to achieve justice for the indigenous people of Bolivia. Politics of rhetoric is suicidal for a country like Bolivia. I had great hope for Morales and Bolivia. Now it is finished.

1:56 AM  
Anonymous Aureliano Buen Dia said...

Of course not Arthur. The government of the United States of (North) America has never ever ever ever EVER!!!!!! tried to overthrow a democratic government elected by its people.

Such poppycock, that the leader of the Free World would engage in such activities!

They didn't do it in Iran, they didn't do it in Guatemala, Chile, El Salvador, Grenada, Haiti, Venezuela...so how could they have done it now? Would they even know how?

But if they had done it, which is of course unfathomable, insane, irrational, and furthermore tasteless to even suggest.. they would have given the opposition lots of green dollars to play with.

Money does make the world go round, no? And it takes money to keep it that way.

Seriously, you'll have to wait 20 years and file a Freedom of Information Act request to put all these baseless lies about Goldberg's involvement to rest (this is how we found out about what the CIA didn't do in Chile in 1973).

The accusations, as the State department has said are baseless. That is, they are bottomless, they go down deep, deep into the soul of a continent... deeper than some of these opposition political forces might care to look, for their alienation from their patria profunda is severe, there is no magic to their realism because its an import, they fear Evo not because of his policies, not because he is an Indio de Mierda or Alvaro because he is a K'ara maricon

They fear change because it will force them to acknowledge to themselves that they are strangers in their own land... if only because they never bothered to meet the neighbors.

But that is only half the story. Because these alienated political oppositionists have also sprouted roots, have also dug down deep into the patria profunda, are also as brown and Indian deep down inside as the rest. They love their country as much.

This political opposition was not articulated by USA, it needs to defend itself and its hard work, its communities and families, its legitimate Bolivian dream from the bogeyman Chavez and the communist threat, from the hoardes of indoctrinated "MASSIS" who want only to destroy and not to build.

So they make a mistake, they take Goldberg's money. They follow his advice. They think that CNN and Unitel will stop that which even Banzer's machine guns could not.

But now, the cancer removed, healing can begin. No outside interference, none, zip, what a beauty to behold!

As General Trigo has said: "to the Bolivian people, from whom we hail and to whom we owe ourselves"

How magic, how real, how fucked up and scary that the military is charged with bringing the left hand together with the right, to close the circle of alienation and distrust.

May they succeed, may the senseless violence and hatred and deathsstop, and the necessary dialogue ensue, for that is something that nobody from outside can impose, not Bush or Chavez or Lula or Fernandez or el todopoderoso Chapulin Colorado...only the open hearts of political leaders who have achieved their positions through close-heartedness and cunning.

Incidentally, to the reporters of the Los Angeles Times who wrote this article:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-latin13-2008sep13,0,3104454.story

Thanks! for being somewhat fair and linking to a great source for English information on Bolivia

2:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Grindio your sources are telling you the General wont follow Morales' orderes?

This could be very bad, Jim or anyone have any info regarding possible internal conflict within the Bolivian military.

I know many of the Bolivian Military (Army, Air Force, etc) are from Santa Cruz. Any indication if they sympathize with Costas and Marinkovic?

As I see it the Military is the only true law and order left in Bolivia. If it splinters, well then you can forget about the whole thing. It'd be over.

4:10 AM  
Blogger Walter said...

At times it seems like Bolivia is a country ungovernable without violent repression. The use of blockades and other illegal acts was also used by president Evo when he was in the opposition.

9:03 AM  
Anonymous galloglass said...

Interesting Jim...ALL other media sources other than ABI and ERBOL point to MASISTAS being behind the ambush. Anon 4:10, the great majority, I'd say 80-90 percent of the military, including high command, are from the occidente.
Llega a 14 el número de muertos de la masacre de El Porvenir, municipio ubicado a 30 kilómetros de la ciudad de Cobija, donde campesinos y funcionarios de la Prefectura fueron acribillados a balazos y machetazos en la víspera. El senador de Unidad Nacional (UN), Abraham Cuéllar, en declaraciones dijo que de acuerdo a la información confirmada de varios dirigentes campesinos y de comunidades rurales, se encontraron seis muertos más de los enfrentamientos de la víspera.

9:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Jim,

Thank you for a clear review of the facts and prognosis. However I think you have to analise also the recent declarations of president Hugo Chavez.
Perhaps the negotiations have to reach his views, since politicians and even the armed forces in Bolivia are too shy when it comes to criticize the agresive and impertinent threats of intervention.
Is it really posible for Evo Morales to take steps toward a peaceful agreement which means making concession about the Constitution?

10:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is anyone thinking about the "opposition" people in Santa Cruz? How should they react when the government is attempting to take their land and homes? The media coverage makes Cruzenos into the instigators of the violence. Let's have a some levered coverage of this crisis. Bolivia is my second home and the violence and chaos that has ensued in haunting....

10:35 AM  
Blogger BOLIVIA LIBRE said...

Interesting choosing of words Jimbo, so, when the poor people defending democracy from the ground up in their region are not from your political faction they are the “paid mobs of the oligarchs”, and not the valiant citizens fighting for their democratic rights without being paid, feed, stoned or drunk, yea! Right; I am also a bullshit believer.

Regarding the death in Pando, no matter how you want to put it, the deceased at both sides were killed by gun shoots; by the way, the only machine guns up north are the ones provided by Venezuela, along with the free millions of dollars to be use in the destruction of the opposition at the autonomist departments. Funny thing you didn’t mention the Venezuelan check given by Evo Morales yesterday in Quillacollo, more than 1 million dollars right? How many poncho rojos, I mean, maSSist SS, going to “blockage” Santa Cruz can you feed and arm in Bolivia with that amount?

So you learn; our constitution doesn’t allow to curfew one region only, is the whole country or nothing; what can I say, like Banzer, like Evo. Or should I said, like Evo, like Goni?

Lastly, you should go and live in Santa Cruz, with the “oligarchs” for a couple of years, so you will realize that Bolivia isn’t only the Andes; I assure you it would be an eye opener to you, an awakening. You will also realize this “revolution” isn’t about the owners of coffee shops but the protection of the democratic way of life of the majority people on the Orient and South of Bolivia.

11:02 AM  
Blogger mgrace said...

I'm in Santa Cruz right now, having been stupid enough to traverse the roadblocks coming in, thinking that it would be as easy to get out (my mistake). It's pretty peaceful now, in fact it's slow as hell. The plaza is emptier than usual at night, and there are no more protests there. There is broken glass on the street from earlier this week, and the government buildings are cordoned off (at least in the center of the city).
There has been no ill will towards me (I'm a gringo), although the waitress at the café last night told me to be careful when walking about.
Perhaps I'll go check out Plan 3,000 later today or tomorrow, when my stomach feels a bit better. Any suggestions from commenters here? Anybody think it would be dangerous to walk explore the city as a gringo? I'm thinking Plan 3,000 might be a bit harrowing, with the Goldberg fiasco and the legitimate distrust of U.S. coup-mongers.

11:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good to see that B/L is back from under the rock he dove under after getting his butt kicked by 2/3 August 10. Spin baby spin, tell us more why your relatives in Pando with the guns should get their way over a 2/3 majority.

12:06 PM  
Blogger Frank_IBC said...

mgrace -

Don't worry about going to Plan 3000. I'm sure the locals all bow down before God's Gift To Oppressed Brown Peoples.

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mgrace

I can't think of anything smarter to do than being a gringo and going to slum where from childhood they have been taught to hate them. It won't be as bad a Pearlman wandering around Iraq/Afghanistan...but close enough

2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing. Poor people killed by the mercenaries paid by Golberg and Marinkovic dollars and all I read here is bull shit.
No wonder the world is fucked, whether is in Bolivia or the US or China.
Same bastards, selfish individualist, crooks ruling the mafias of the oligarqhy. Paying the press, Fox, CNN and any drug adict or drunk to killed the poor who hope to get out of their slavery.
Palin is their woman, an ignorant red neck who will be elected to rule the world. And then the hypocrits talk about Morales being ignorant. At least he has morals, decency and wants poor bolivians to improve.
Bush mcain Palin all alike in the US, here in Bolivia we have the Costas, Marinkovic, Tutos, Gonis.
scum of the earth destroying the world.

2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do so many hicks comment on this sight?

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THERE IS NO QUESTION, AS A BOLIVIAN CITIZEN MYSELF LIVING IN THE U.S., I THINK, WE NEED A CIVIL WAR IN BOLIVIA JUST LIKE THE U.S.A HAD A CIVIL WAR TO KEEP ITS UNION. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN. WHAT WOULD THE AMERICANS DO IF CALIFORNIA DECLARED ITS AUTONOMY FROM THE U.S.FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? WOULNDT THEY ACT? I DO NOT THINK SO, NOR SHOULD WE NOT ACT.

AFTER 500 YEARS OF INDIAN SUBJUGATION, WHO ARE THE BOLIVIAN WHITE MINORITY TO TELL THE INDIANS THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE INDIAN SELF-DETERMINATION? IF THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS, THEN THE BOLIVIAN WHITE ELITE WANT A TOTAL WAR WHICH THEY WILL LOOSE.... TO THE WHITES I TELL YOU, YOU INSTIGATE A CIVIL WAR THEY YOU CANNOT WIN--BUT WHICH WILL LEAD TO A TOTAL INVATION AND SACK OF THE ORIENT BY THE ANGRY INDIANS FROM THE WEST. SO IN A SENSE I SUPPORT THE BOLIVIAN WHITE ELITE BECAUSE THIS WILL ONLY LEAD FOR A TOTAL INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF THE LOWLANDS BY ALL, ALL ALL BOLIVIAN INDIANS WHO WANT A PIECE OF THE PIE.

2:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ON THE JEWISH QUESTION:

LOOK, WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF HYPOCRICY, THE US GOVERNMENT IS SUPPORTING THE BREAK UP OF BOLIVIA-- TO DESTABILIZE LATIN AMERICA. SAME POLICY AS BEFORE, DIVIDE AND CONQUER. IT IS EASIER FOR THEM TO DOMINATE A SINGLE COUNTRY THROUGH POLARIZATION.. WAR AND CONFLICT FOR SOME EVIL AMERICANS APPARENTLY IS PROFITABLE... NO FAIR PLAY HERE. SAME WAY--LATIN AMERICANS ARE NOT STUPID--ANYONE CAN SEE THIS. TO THE AMERICAN POLICY MAKERS, I TELL YOU THIS--THE CHICKENS WILL COME HOME TO ROOST. WHEN THE HISPANICS IN CALIFORNIA, FLORIDA AND NEW MEXICO DECLARE THEIR INPENDENCE FROM THE U.S. DO NOT LOOK TO LATIN AMERICA FOR HELP. LA RECONQUISTA OF THE SOUTHWEST U.S. TERRITORIES IS UNDERWAY---BY THE MEXICANS...SO THE BREAK UP OF THE UNITED STATES IS UNDER WAY ALSO IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WHEN THIS HAPPENS DO NOT, DO NOT LOOK FOR BOLIVIA FOR HELP.

3:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 2:58

You're an idiot, it's nowhere near as black and white as you make it seem. I however don't expect you to understand seeing as you probably live in some US suburb.

mgrace

Not a very good idea friend. Plan 3000 is not Iraq/Afghanistan, but tell me if you were back in the USA would you have walked through Compton during(after) the LA riots alone just for kicks.

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear mgrace,

Coincidentally I just heard a discourse from Hugo Chavez, sending to hell to all "yanquiés de m....". I am still startled at the reactions of people as this events unravel. I am now in Tarija and it´s not a pretty picture either.
My advise is to stay at the hotel or your room. Don´t try to mingle too much. And don´t say you support any party.

Friend

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mgrace:

Plan 3000 is a hellhole 24/7/365. The people who live there don't want to be there but don't have a choice in the matter. It's just a slum. Get over your curiosity. Then again, if you get your kicks gawking at a subhuman standard of living, have at it. Santa Cruz is just like any other city in the world, there are good parts and bad, Plan 3000 is one of the bad ones. All that being said, Bolivia's tourist industry doesn't need the embassy issuing more travel warnings because you were curious about how the other half lives.

The waitress who told you to watch your back probably said so because you look like you have a "mug me" sign on your back. She probably would have said the same to you any time of the year and not necessarily because of the troubles that are going on right now. I'm guessing you wear Tevas, take pride in your dirty feet, carry a Bolivian/andean woven backback over your "La Hoja de Coca No es Droga" t-shirt. You probably love the adventure of traveling in Bolivia's deathtrap buses and likely have an outrageous gringo accent. My recommendation is for you to sample the many fine vegetarian restaurants downtown or have a few pacenas at the Irish bar over the plaza, which is where I assume you received your advice from the waitress.

Sorry if my comments sound mean-spirited but my tolerance level for people with no common sense is quite low.

Sincerely,

A US Coup Monger

5:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:58 & 3:09: PLEASE DONT SHOUT, YOU ARE HURTING MY EARS. Really, if you support and intelligent argument, people will listen to you.

Thanks!

5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ano 11:02
How much do you get pay Goni? Or is it the Company In Action?
All you say is nothing but lies. Another "killing fields" by the holy manifest destiny. Afterall for you people brown natives are nothing but beasts to be exploited and then to be killed.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To ANONYMOUS 2:58 SHOUTER:
You asked what would we say if California suddenly demanded autonomy from the U.S. That is an ignorant question.

In California they already have:
Their own police, (state and local)
Their own tax structure
Their own education system (state and local)
Their own highway system and taxes
Their own governor and bicameral legislature
Their own State Court system (that allows Gay Marriage)

They determine their own fate and depend on the FEDERAL government for national defense, passports and international relations, federal aid of various sorts.

The U.S. is a federal system of 50 states.

I think that is what the autonomistas would like.

8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:56:>> You are way off base. The US has had far less involvement in the exploitation of native South Americans than Spain. You forget, Spain is the country that wrecked ours.

Now, we are sending our people to be slaves there! Freely sent! Incredible.

Please do not speak for all white people the way you do. Many, many gringos work and live in Bolivia trying to better the lives of the people around them while being blessed to have such good 'brown native' friends. The white people up North, by the way, have sent more humanitarian and social aid to this continent than ANY other country on the planet.

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:02

EXACTLY. A DEMOCRATIC WAY OF LIFE.
WE DON´T WANT YOUR INTERNATIONALIST LIES, WHICH, AS EVERY ONE KNOWS AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY READING, ARE ONLY A WAY TO GET A HOLD OF POWER FOR DECADES, ONLY TO TURN SOCIETIES INTO CORRUPT, HOPELESS, FEARING GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHILE THOSE IN POWER GRACIOUSLY ENTER THE RANKINGS OF THE WORLDS RICHEST.
BY THE WAY I WRITE FROM NORTHERN PART OF BEAUTIFUL LA PAZ, AND I CONSIDER MY SELF A PROUD PACEÑO. AND AS YOU KNOW MANY IN LA PAZ AGREE WITH ME.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS GOVERNMENT IS THAT THEY FORGOT WHERE THE LIES STARTED. MANY VOTED FOR EVO BECAUSE HE PROMISED BETTER SALARIES, NO CORRUPTION, BETTER JOBS FOR EVERYONE INCLUDING "INTELECTUALS" AND PROFESSIONALS (WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT). WELL TWO YEARS PASSED AND NOW WE ARE AT THE BRINK OF WAR. OK, LET´S GO TO WAR. EVERYONE WILL BE SURPRISED AT THE RESULTS. ONE THING IS A VOTED SUPPORT WHERE YOU GET PICKED UP AT YOUR HOME AND SENT TO TWO OR THREE PLACES TO VOTE FOR EVO AND THEN PAID 50 BS. ANOTHER IS TO BE FORCED TO TAKE A RIFLE AND KILL YOUR NEIGHBOUR. MY GUESS IS THAT EVERYONE WILL CHOOSE TO GRAB THAT RIFLE AND KEEP IT TO MAKE A FEW BUCKS LATER ON.
IF YOU WANT BLOOD IN BOLIVIA YOU´LL HAVE TO SEND MANY MANY MANY VENEZUELAN COMMUNISTS. AND AS MANY AS POSSIBLE BODY BAGS. (WE'LL TURN SOME COMMIES INTO CHICHARRÓN, FOR EVO AND HIS STACK OF PIGS).

21ST CENTURY COLLA

8:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gringos comunistas. Son una verguenza para su país.
Vayanse a meter debajo de un puente o algo comemierdas.

9:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

21ST CENTURY COLLA

Most of us on the blog do not read or respond to "shouting". Obviously you are new to blogging and don't understand the nuances of this communication. Get with the program!!
Buffy :)

10:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

some have not ever heard of the Marshall Plan? or a little something called WWII? Sounds like they're bitter because the Nazis didn't get to kill enough Jews or frenchmen, or perhaps they'd wished the rape of nanking would have lasted a little longer...who knows. For all of its defects, the world is a better places because of the US.

10:55 PM  
Anonymous Andres Ibañez said...

Marshall Plan ? I like the idea ... let`s start with the jew who writes this blog and then Evo and his ministers, that would be fun.

Anyone knows where Jim lives in Cochabamba ?

11:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 11:57 PM

What a moron you are! Jim is not a Jew. He's just a good old German/American who got lucky and met a fantastic Cochabambina. As I did.
So, don't show you idiotic prejudices on this blog.
Buffy.

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

El Deber reported a complete history of the battle of Pando. An engineer for the Prefectura was shot dead in his vehicle after running into a truck load of MAS supporters who were aremed and had arm bands to identify themselves. The truck load of Masistas entered triumphantly into a non MAS owned village and "took" a house and killed another oppostion leader. Citizens of the town went and got their guns, one with a machine gun, and a long gun battle started. The massistas ran out of ammo and ran into the woods with a hail of bullets following them. A complete tragedy. But it was started by Massistas armed and organized by MAS. This needs to be on the record. The massistas were out looking for a fight and found one. One of the "campesinos" had naval military credintials found on his person.

I have lived 20 years in Bolviia and the area around San Julian and let me tell you Evo has created new hate among Bolivian brothers that never existed before. Coyas and Cambas always existed peacefully and respectably in Eastern Bolivia. Bolivians, both Camba and Colla are not naturally violent people. The violece has been fomented!!! Just read the vial, hate mongerig Rehtoric Evo has spewed against Cambas from his earliest years. He has counted on race and class warfare to implement his program. This has been a central part of the MAS strategy from the beginning. The coutry will be run like a sindicato from now on. The hate generated will last generations and this is Evo's biggest sin. A complete tragedy.

The world press, ignoraant of the Eastern Bolivia reality, spins it against the Crucenos but the story is a fight of modern democratic regions against effective class warfare promoting, hate mongering socialsist centralism. =

It won't go away even if Evo jails his opponents. The only way Evo can win by force is to become worse than Mugabe and that looks exactly like what will happen. 16 dead in the last two days!!

The difference in Bolivia and Zimbawi, (and the army knows this) is that S Cruz is a pioneer area and a gun culutre and everyone owns a gun. Imagine California seding troops to Texas to whip the Texans into shape to become good socialist. It won't work. It will just be very, very bloody.

Evo holds all the cards. He could decide tomoarrow to truly get consensus on the contitution and to retur the IDH and the conflict would be over. But it appears EVO has chosen the bloody way and is determinged to have it ALL HIS WAY. It is all in Evo's hands. He holds all the cards, and he is going to take the whole pot, but boy at what cost!

If Evo tries to be Mugabe and crush and jail all his opponents the problem will only grow VERY bloody. Pray for Bolivia. Pray the Army won't send fathers against sons, and sons agains brothers. This a tragedy of epic proportios. Look at Sri Lanka and the Tamil Tigers. The Tamil Tigers got their start this way when a minority simply wanting legal democratic autonomy was crushed. A 20 year civil war was the result. Look what happened in the Balkans, when hard liners ignored local elections, and would not give Autonomy to regions who could peacfully locally self govern themselves. Evo is committing a horrible mistake sendig in the Army and arming his MAS base. This is going to end very, very badly.

anonomous for obvious reasons.

12:34 AM  
Anonymous Jose Arcadio said...

Erbol.com.bo reports the complete opposite, the deaths were caused by mercenary gunmen hired by the Prefect of Pando, a well known associate of Banzer's ADN political party dating back to the dictatorship from 1971-1978.

Personally, I don't know what happened, but given that there were multiple factually coinciding reports from bloggers, traditional news sources, and independent journalists of opposition, UJC, and fascist intimidation and attacks against journalists throughout the "media luna" the past week, I have to believe that this was a fascist move and that unarmed or underarmed campesinos were massacred.

However, this is not about whether or not capitalism is good or bad, the Empire exists or not...or whether we blame Hugo Chavez or Phillip Goldberg for the more than dozen dead in Pando.

this is about building a lasting peace by BOTH sides reaching into their hearts to dialogue, for the good of all Bolivians.

Andres Ibañez was a great fighter for the rights of the lower classes, the Igualitarios wanted equality of opportunity and treatment.

Can anyone really believe that he would have approved of this kind of "autonomy"?

1:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lo que no está claro es quién disparó primero. Según las versiones de varios pobladores de Porvenir, ellos se movilizaron para bloquear los camiones en los que venían los zafreros. Admitieron que maquinaria de la Prefectura los ayudó haciendo hoyos y barricadas en el camino, pero aseguran que por la madrugada estaban desarmados. El primer enfrentamiento fue sin armas de fuego y los afines al MAS hicieron huir a los pobladores de Porvenir, que se reagruparon y volvieron con un grupo mayor, a las 7:00. Según ellos, en ese momento fueron sorprendidos por los masistas, que comenzaron a dispararles con salones calibre 22 y escopetas.
Por el lado de los oficialistas, la historia da la vuelta. Miguel Becerra, líder de la agrupación ciudadana Movimiento Amazónico de Renovación (MAR), asegura que la balacera se desató después de que un funcionario de la Prefectura de Pando atropelló a dos campesinos. “Luego, todo fue una confusión”, añadió.
En Porvenir, un hombre que aseguró que estuvo al frente del grupo autonomista dice que los oficialistas se armaron en la hacienda que Becerra tiene en la zona. “Salieron con salones, escopetas, pistolas y hasta gases lacrimógenos”, relató el hombre.
En ese momento comenzó la tragedia. Los zafreros mataron a dos personas, un poblador de Porvenir, que cayó con un disparo de salón en el cuello, y el funcionario de la Prefectura de Pando Pedro Oshiro, que fue capturado en su vehículo y matado con un disparo ascendente que le entró por debajo del mentón y otro tiro en la sien.
“Después nos persiguieron. Nosotros nos dispersamos en el monte, porque nuestros propios vecinos de Filadelfia nos estaban esperando por atrás. Por suerte conocemos bien el monte y pudimos llegar hasta Porvenir. Ellos se vinieron por el camino, quemando todo lo que encontraban y disparándole al que se les cruzaba, hasta que llegaron a la plaza de Porvenir, tomaron rehenes y se parapetaron en el medio”, cuenta un testigo.
Allí los encontró el contingente policial que llegó hasta la zona, sólo con equipo antimotines. El comandante de la Policía de Pando, coronel Silvio Magarzo, tuvo que replegarse al fracasar sus gestiones para desarmar a los masistas.
La situación cambiaría pronto. A las 10:30, luego de una hora de ocupación de Porvenir, un grupo proveniente de Cobija, distante 34 kilómetros del centro del conflicto, llegó en unas volquetas del Servicio Departamental de Camino e igualó el poder de fuego. Pronto, los pobladores de Porvenir sacaron sus armas y comenzaron a atacar a los zafreros. Incluso, un poblador utilizó una ametralladora descrita como ‘pequeña, pero con buen calibre’.
En ese momento, la Policía se replegó y los afines al Gobierno comenzaron a retroceder y replegarse hacia el monte. Seis cayeron en el mismo pueblo y una treintena quedó herida. Los enfrentamientos se prolongaron hasta las 14:00 y se teme que haya muchos más muertos de los reportados en el hospital Roberto Galindo de Cobija.
De ambos lados había una organización para la matanza. Los oficialistas se reconocían entre sí a través de cintas amarillas amarradas en las muñecas. También había personas con cintas rojas y verdes. Consultada sobre este distintivo, la delegada presidencial de Pando, Nancy Texeira, reconoció que ellos pertenecían a la policía sindical.
Al mediodía, los zafreros que persiguieron a los de Porvenir se convirtieron en perseguidos. Como no conocían el monte, se encerraron cerca de la barranca del río Tahuamano. Ahí fueron acorralados y, cuando trataban de cruzarlo, fueron alcanzados por los autonomistas, que les tiraron en el agua. “Les dispararon como cazando troperos. Esos cuerpos se los llevó el río, están en el monte o en los arroyos. Esas cifras que sacan en la tele no son ciertas, por lo menos hay veinte muertos más”, dijo el poblador de Porvenir. “Es una pena lo que pasó, pero ellos (los zafreros) tampoco eran cristianos”, añadió.
Cuando los cuerpos comenzaron a llegar a Cobija, se desató más la violencia. Jóvenes salieron a quemar y saquear los ‘negocios de collas’ y buscaban por toda la ciudad a Miguel Becerra y al asambleísta del MAS Beimar Becerra. Los dos fueron identificados por 15 rehenes que fueron llevados hasta el Comité Cívico. Antes de ser entregados a la Policía, dijeron que ambos les ofrecieron Bs 200 por día para ir a un congreso campesino en Filadelfia, pero luego les dieron armas para pelear.
Todos los que tuvieron alguna alianza con el Gobierno han pasado a la clandestinidad y temen por sus vidas. “Lo que pasa es que aquí todos somos familia y estas cosas que han pasado duelen mucho”, dijo uno de ellos, que pidió no ser identificado. Se teme que los enfrentamientos continúen.

http://www.eldeber.com.bo/2008/2008-09-12/vernotaahora.php?id=080912025512

2:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Copy cats in Bolivia:

Every republican I know loves violence, killing - animals in person, people by proxy (that's why war is so popular with them), think there's nothing wrong with torture or killing civilians including their children, or anyone at all of a different culture, race or religion. They actually quote the bible as justification for their disgusting lack of humanity, with the god given right to destroy all those who aren't christians but after manipulating them for every cent that can be bludgoned from them first, and any sidelines of toture can be just considered an entertainment bonus. How that differs one iota from the fundamentalist beliefs of the terrorist sects is a big mystery to me. They are two of a kind. The most self defining description of a Republican is greed for money and things it will buy -if it takes destroying the planet and its wildlife and habitat and environment to achieve that goal so what? If the ruthless can be kept in power and those are the ones who usually are, you can control or limit the education of the ones who aren't so there will always be a huge field of undereducated to exploit until its all wiped out by manmade catsstrophe - a nuclear war (No, Bush, not nucular)or climate corruption from all that oil that should have been eliminated many years ago and would have but for republican greed..

4:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quoting EL DEBER is like copying the outbriefs from Marinkovic.
Distortion, lies.

4:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PROUD Paceno:
You claim to represent most pacenos. What a lie. You represent the few rich ones who lost their easy money way of life when your daddy and relatives were taking all the money to banks in Miami, and Europe.
Your frugal way of life as a Hijito de papa, made you waste the money, therefore you want to milk the cow again.
Only blind stupid rich people can see no further than their noses.

Go home to Miami corrupted pseudo bolivian.

4:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elite backlash
What do you do if you are living in a country where a government looks like taking back thousands of acres of your land (most of which you stole but hey you have been allowed it up to now)? Or perhaps you are a business leader who has proudly had government in your pocket, yet now they pay little attention to you and keep doing things that just don't make "good business sense." Or perhaps you are white and a small minority in a largely indigenous country but have always had members of your family in power, and suddenly the government is taken over by loads of ignorant people who look frighteningly like your sweet housemaid.

Well I guess you might look at changing the national government, but they have received more votes than you ever did, so you opt to take control of local government which is a bit easier. Then you push for more power and autonomy. When the government doesn't look like giving you what you want, still keep their money on the purse strings on which your local power depends, and worse of all threaten to deepen their programme of changes, you start to get desperate. Maybe you decide to organise some strikes, marches, pay bands to write cheesy lyrics about freedom, hope bit by bit you can make the central government's work impossible and that their supporters will start to wane.

Then you have a referendum, and you can't believe how stupid your own countrymen are because they vote in ever larger numbers for the government - even goddamit from your own region. Hey, isnt democracy meant to be on my side? Isn't that what Bush promised? What is one to do?

Well in Bolivia in the last weeks, we have seen exactly what the Right does. Go back to their paid groups of thugs and get them to violently take offices of the Government to create chaos, and if possible some violence and even martyrs if that can get the government out. Because the elites lack subtlety, they also decided to mete out the most violence on the National Land Institute (responsible for land redistribution) and NGOs linked to human rights, indigenous rights and land redistribution - and hey why not, the recently nationalised telecommunications company which somehow is reducing prices and threatening companies which their friends control.

Conflicts always mean a bit more press coverage - although you can be sure it will be more if it is Evo rather than the prefects - but this is where the absence of context as ever leads to strong misreprentation of the power dynamics in Bolivia. If you read any press you will likely hear that the conflicts are the age-old rivalry between the east lowlands and west highlands, that "opposition groups" in the East are opposed to constitutional plans and want more revenue for the region, and of course that Evo Morales is a Leftist close to Chavez.

What they nearly always fail to mention are any of the following facts:

- that the opposition is led by business elites and big landowners who have spent vast amounts of money, tactics of intimidation, and violence to push the message that regional autonomy will improve people'slives
- despite this fierce campaign and the almost complete absence of central government, the opposition's popular support is still limited to the cities whilst the central government's support grows ever more
- that the central government's nationalisation more than doubled the revenues for the Eastern regions
- that the Right who fought the Constitutional Assembly for a year saying everything had to be approved by two-thirds suddenly don't want any further popular votes now that two-thirds backed Evo in a referendum in July

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evo has ordered the arrest of Leopoldo Fernandez. THIS is the reason why I voted for Evo, not to institute a CPE sin pies ni cabeza, throw childish tantrums against imagined US plots, nor to split the country in 35 nations.

Ideally they will capture him alive, find out that there is not enough gas in the plane or room in the truck bed and do what Clark Griswold did to old aunt Edna's dog.

Anyone who is familiar with Leopoldo Fernandez knows that this would not even come close to justice. This is the most despicable type of character. A true psychopath who orders murders the way Grindio orders pizza. Even Guantanamo would show him some mercy, the kind he never had not even for children or gringoes themselves (personally knowing a few that lost tons of money to him and his thuggish mannerisms)

If Sta Cruz is Texas....Pando is the heart of darkness and Mr. Kurtz must be eliminated

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First to Buffy: my mistake. Thank you for correcting me. And please excuse me the last paragraph that was very silly too.

Now to 4:41: Me corrupted? Uhmmm... I don´t think so. Accounts in Miami?... That would be sweet!! but, no. Sorry.
Hijito de papa?, well my daddy is a god fearing catholic with great values and thank god I can still hang around with him and enjoy his stories and every day lessons. He´s paid for my education, I learned english at the CBA and now I can provide a little bit to his retirement days. Is anything wrong with that?
But let´s go back to your bitterness against these so called Hijitos de papá.
You know they are everywhere in the world. Maybe you are a papito to one of these Hijitos, but an angry papito of course. So angry I bet you would really pick that riffle and shoot me had you the chance.
Which brings me to question, where will you be when the war starts? I fear you are looking for targets... be they bolivian or american. Are you planning to bomb a building? Will you bomb a café full of rich (miami) hijitos de papitouuu? And then what?
Interpol?....FBI...CIA.... Maybe they´ll finally catch you crossing some border.
What I see here is a war of gringo against gringo as much as it is a war between bolivians. You have brougth your war to Bolivia.
Well, as I said we will play it on for whatever it´s worth. We have no other option. It´s another charade anyway.
To close, I am convinced that the idea behind internationalist communist ruling is to stall development in the countries where it´s targeted. Who benefits from this? Crime (drug traffic, prostitution), natural resource exploitation (Soros, Goni) and of course competing productive countries intentionally or not(Perú, Venezuela). So to me the war you have brought to my country in sheep´s clothing is probably being funded by criminals or very cruel and ambitious business people. Of course somebody has to stop the nonsense and that´s where CIA must come in and kick your butt. (And ruin my carpet)
Sorry for the rude awakening.

11:18 AM  
Anonymous Arthur said...

The characters of Cien años de soledad have done excelent
comments. Aureliano Buendia, thank for answering my questions. It was
very helpfull your comments about the psychology of the opposition.

For those who are so angry with the possibility of changes in the
property of land, I would like to remember you that property reforms,
and in particular agrarian reforms, are essential for the
democratization of society. Land is not only a property as house or a
car, but is a means of production. The government of North America, so
loved by the opposition of Bolivia, did not think twice before make
deep agrarian reforms in Japan and Corea.

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, yes; property reforms.

Bolivia meets Zimbabwe. Give away the large land holdings to 'the people' and everyone but the government is thrust into poverty.

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AS AN INDIAN MYSELF LIVING IN THE GOOD OLD USA, I TELL YOU, I THROW MY FULL SUPPORT FOR CONALDE...

I THINK CONALDE IS DOING A GREAT FAVOR TO US BOLIVIAN INDIANS....BECAUSE IT WILL LEAD TO FULL SCALE CIVIL WAR AND SUBSEQUENT INVASION OF THE ORIENT BY ALL PEASANTS AND INDIANS FROM LAPAZ. COCHABAMBA, POTOSI, ORURO AND CHUQUISACA. WE NEED THIS WAR TO FINALLY CLEAN UP HOUSE AND PUT OUR COUNTRY IN ORDER. THE ARMY WONT DO IT...THE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO IT THEMSELVES......MAY GOD BLESS CONALDE FOR ALLOWEING HISTORY TO UNFOLD ITSELF IN FAVOR OF THE INDIAN MAJORITIES. HEY I WANT A PIECE OF THAT LAND MARINKOVIC STOLE FROM THE GUARAYO INDIANS.

1:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the Republican slammer above who thinks they are only interested in money; I suggest you looking into Arthur C Brooks' book: "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism"


"The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion, live in traditional nuclear families and reject the notion that the government should engage in income redistribution are the most generous Americans, by any measure.

Conversely, secular liberals who believe fervently in government entitlement programs give far less to charity. They want everyone's tax dollars to support charitable causes and are reluctant to write checks to those causes, even when governments don't provide them with enough money.

He says it forcefully, pointing out that liberals give less than conservatives in every way imaginable, including volunteer hours and donated blood."

1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buffy!

Thank you for clarifying Jim Schultz´origin and also that of his wife/fiancee/whatever...
Though the picture, oh well...
And you would then be....the maid?...Señorita Buffy?

:>

2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Evo's defining statement...

....."I've learned that, above what is legal, there is politics. Given that, when my advisors tell me 'Evo, what you are doing is illegal', I just go ahead and do it and tell them: 'if it isn't legal, make it legal. That's why you studied..." ... Evo Morales

:~(

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol @ any country voting in someone with a party name like Movement Toward Socialism...increased poverty was a given. Now, as for the violence...my guess is that the opposition groups are trying to put blood on Evo's hands by provoking him to engage. But they should be careful, cause they may just get what they are asking for...and then they will really loose any hopes for autonomy.

BTW, just out of curiosity how do people on this blog feel about the eastern provinces seceding? Good or bad?

3:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Algunos piensan que la inviabilidad de Bolivia comenzó en la Constituyente de 1825. Otros creen que los males emergieron con la llegada de los españoles al continente, en 1492. A fin de encontrar explicaciones más cercanas, estimamos que el horizonte se nubló para el país el 17 de mayo de 2005, al aprobarse la Ley de Hidrocarburos 3058. Se dirá que eso es absurdo ya que la “3058” elevó los ingresos estatales del 18% al 50%. El 18% inicial no deja nada a YPFB, ya que el 11% es para los departamentos productores, el 1% para Beni y Pando y el 6% para el TGN. El 32% adicional (denominado IDH) tiene el siguiente destino: 16% para los cuatro departamentos productores, 10% para los cinco no productores y el 6% para el TGN, pueblos indígenas y originarios, comunidades campesinas, municipios, universidades, Fuerzas Armadas, Policía Nacional y otros. Otra vez nada para YPFB. El artículo 57 de la citada ley se asemeja a arrojar una res a un foso de lobos hambrientos, para ver cómo los lobos se despedazarán entre sí.

La tercera nacionalización, del 1 de mayo de 2006, dispuso que durante seis meses se eleven los tributos en otro 32% (con lo que se llegó al 82%) de la producción de los mega campos de gas, descubiertos por YPFB y entregados gratuitamente a Petrobras y otras compañías. Ese nuevo ingreso estaba destinado a la petrolera estatal, el que debía consolidarse después de auditorías a los campos de hidrocarburos. El Gobierno de Evo Morales no tomó en cuenta las auditorías y firmó contratos con las petroleras, con lo que se volvió al 50/50 de la “3058”.

Entre tanto, se incrementó el precio internacional del petróleo, lo que abrió aún más el apetito de las fieras enjauladas. El MAS utilizó el 32% conseguido con la nacionalización en pagar el Bono Dignidad (a los ancianos) y el Bono Juancito Pinto (a los escolares). Cuando este segundo 32% dejó de ser pagado por las petroleras, recurrió a los esmirriados fondos de YPFB. Para colmo de males, las reservas monetarias del Banco Central de Bolivia (BCB) son exportadas a intereses ridículos a bancos, gobiernos y transnacionales del primer mundo.

La experiencia enseña que las petroleras aceptan ceder parte de sus ingresos con dos condiciones: Que no se desarrolle la empresa estatal y que el valor agregado a la materia prima (termoeléctricas, GTL, Petroquímica, etc.) esté bajo su control y, en el caso boliviano, fuera de las fronteras del país. Para cumplir este objetivo, Petrobras contó con operadores claves. Un caso paradigmático es el del prefecto de Tarija, Mario Cossío, cuya trayectoria es la siguiente:

Hombre de confianza de Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada durante la liquidación de YPFB, entre 1993 y 1997. Presidente de la Cámara de Diputados en la aprobación de la Ley 3058 y principal impulsor de la Ley Tarija 3065, del 30 de mayo de 2005, por la que este departamento puede suscribir contratos petroleros de espaldas al Estado. El periodista Humberto Vacaflor sostuvo que el canciller Amorín tomará contacto con Cossío para garantizar el suministro de gas al Brasil. El Prefecto tarijeño acaba de proponer la partición de Bolivia en un Estado binacional y la elección de parlamentarios regionales, a fin de acelerar el separatismo.

Carlos Mesa, en su libro Presidencia Asediada, dice que, antes de aprobarse la Ley 3058, recibió la visita del candidato Evo Morales y su comitiva para discutir el referéndum de gas. Explica que esa comitiva masista estaba integrada por el tecnócrata Gastón Mujía. Lo que no dice (tal vez porque no lo sabía) es que Mujía es representante de la francesa Total, interesada también en que YPFB no se capitalice y que no se exporte gas con valor agregado. Si no se recapitaliza YPFB y no se exporta gas con valor agregado, la guillotina de la inviabilidad terminará por caer sobre Bolivia.
Andrés Soliz Rada
* Ex Ministro de Hidrocarburos

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:42

Caballero... Indians taking the cities of Sta. Cruz, Tarija... etc?
Right, maybe after they learn how to wipe their buttholes.
Probably you could teach them, after all there must be something special in you, since you live in the "good ole Jewnites".

Katrina...Yumbina...The Croats...Amén

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 4:21: I hope you are just kidding in your post (in which case you failed miserably) or are really respectful of the rights of others and are trying to make the opposition look bad (in which case you are a jerk).

Please, for the sake of those that try and love as God loves (read: love everyone); end the stupid, over-the-top, racial comments. They are not funny.

Signed,

A US Republican who cares and gives. (same as 1:42 above)

5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 4:04:

Your post is extraordinarily insightful. Is this your analysis, or is this an extract from elsewhere?

6:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

massacre of the campesinos??
A group of so-called "campesinos" ambushed a pro prefect group...

One of the "campesinos" is an active duty soldier...the gov is trying to suppress that info.

Ramon Quintana is in Pando personally directing oeratons

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HMMM Yaaawwwhnnn!!

So Grindio...., Grindioooo...
Tell us, why was your family so cozy with ex-Dictator Garcia Mesa and slimes like Reyes-Villa and the Banzer family.???
.........

Oh well. Nighty night!!

"Now... it´s time.... to say... good night... goooood.. night...sleeep.. tight...."

"Mambru, se fue al guerrrua, chiririn chirinrin chin chin..."

8:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is becoming increasingly apparent that this blog has been invaded by religious freepers.

9:26 PM  
Anonymous Arthur said...

Two things:first, why people do not try to use names, instead of anonymous? Second, ok not always agrarian reform works. I think that Bolivia experience in the 50's is a textbook example . But this is other question. Why are you not discussing how to make a good agrarian reform instead of treat it as nonsense?

10:15 PM  
Blogger mgrace said...

Advice taken!
As far as a hellhole 24/7/365, I don't think so. I was there two weeks ago, and although it certainly is not a nice place (certainly compared to the rest of Santa Cruz), I wouldn't call it that.
True, after recent events, it would be foolhardy for a U.S. resident to stroll into the neighborhood. Especially with Goldberg the secret sharer.
Hey: What's with the vitriol? Calm down! I only asked a question.

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All I know is that I love Bolivia and it's people. I pray the outcome is soon peaceful.
I am disappointed as my flights are already booked with american airlines for the first week of October....and now....I'm unsure if my trip will even happen. Two years I have waited to go back, I have worked many hours to be able to travel back again from here in Ontario Canada. I would love to hear from you about your thoughts on American airlines landing again in La Paz by that time and whether the trip would be safe enough to make. Thank you.

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